How far would you trade up for one? You willing to give up possibly more than we gave up for Mahomes to get one? Because that's what it will take.

They already tried it with Trent Williams. He was just using Veach to squeeze more cash from the Niners. It's hard to get the guys you want. If they go down the path of overpaying, they really need to start using the Void Year stuff like Philly. That's how you overpay for dudes and not get nailed on the cap for a few years.

We don’t know that for sure. It depends a lot on what happens in FA. If Jackson or Stanley were somehow snagged then clearly the need drops, although with depth at OT so important and Taylor done here after 2025 I’d still consider tackle in the first 3 rounds.

If we strikeout on on those 2 then I guess you sign Humphries again and you then get to work with the draft. Yes, Banks/Campbell/maybe Simmons requires probably too high of a trade up. I believe our 2025 1st, 2025 3rd, and 2026 1st is enough to get us up somewhere around 15 or a little higher. Obviously it depends on their draft evaluation and how high they think they need to go, but I think they need to come away with one of Banks, Simmons, Conerly, or Ersery. Most likely none are quite ready to start by day 1, but at least you now have a veteran option with Humphries and I guess worst case scenario Morris and/or KS are improved some more (but I’m not banking on that for a second). This might seem like an over correction but so be it, we’ve hopefully solved LT long term and have the 5th year option and hopefully Morris or KS end up being a capable starter by 2026 after Taylor is kicked to the curb.

Any left tackle you take after about pick 12 is a lottery ticket. That's what the hit rates are. You either draft one top 10 or you hope.

Still better than doing what we’ve done. If they feel one of those guys can be competent pull the trigger.

The LT shit has ruined our season multiple times

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Looks like a Brett Veach special.

Change for the sake of change isn't always good. They spent a 2nd round pick on Kingsley. Do it again. Take two.

But there's absolutely no reason for them to trade up if they're not trading up for something that is surely better. You're active in the draft forums. You know how often those guys in the 20's pan out. Short of a monumental trade, we are giving away multiple picks for another Kingsley. That would be overeactionary and stupid.

**** all of that.

Lol I’m digging the nicknames for Humphries.

I would rather the Chiefs start Hubert H Humphrey than DJ Humphries!

I don’t envy Brett Veach and his staff. Finding a quality Left Tackle is pretty damn hard, especially when you’re stuck at the bottom of the Draft order every single year.

We did that with Kingsley and people are saying he’s a bust already.

What happens when rookie we trade up to take around pick 20 is too raw to do anything his rookie year?

If you’re not getting a top 10 guy, you either take a limited ceiling player and hope that’s good enough to be just kind of alright or you take a super raw player who’s going to get his ass ruined a lot early on.

In both cases, you don’t know what you really have until year 2 or more. And if you don’t have the patience to see their development through the whole process, then don’t bother drafting them ever

Why is it just another Suamataia? Who knows what their grades are but it’s entirely possible they have a higher grade on one of these guys than they did this year on Kingsley.

Kingsley shouldn't have even been active with how raw he was. LT this season was a complete botch job that was the most significant factor in us falling short of the three peat.

If you draft OTs in round 2 or 3 or even late 1 you literally get what we've gotten. Any team that pulled an elite starter from that area or later got lucky as ****.

Yep...