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htismaqe 04-30-2021 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15653086)
Rationale for trading up for Speaks: "There weren't going to be any good DEs left if he went off the board"

Rationale for trading up for Mahomes: "Because he's ****ing awesome"

See the difference?

The Hardman trade up is difficult to speculate on and I won't get into it, particularly because the board is decidedly divided on whether or not he can continue to improve.
And this is why I mentioned Speaks.

Not because Speaks was a bust but because the rationale for trading up was that the DE's were running out and we HAD to get one.

It's the same rationale being floated here for trading up and it's a BAD idea.

If a DE falls to us great. If not, go LB, DB, IOL, whatever. There's no need to fixate on DE.

htismaqe 04-30-2021 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15653103)
LMAO

Watch them somehow come away with Walker Little.
I said it last night - after trading for Brown it sure was interesting to see the OT class basically fall off the cliff. Several guys that people thought might be 1st rounders are still out there. Sure glad we didn't trade up.

htismaqe 04-30-2021 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15653094)
Tons of good linebackers and edge rushers with a 2nd round grade left.

WR's are probably going to make some happy and some upset.

I don't see too many players at WR that will be universally loved here.
I don't see a ton of good edge rushers left at all. I see 2 or 3 really. At least guys that are realistically 2nd rounders.

O.city 04-30-2021 10:13 AM
I'm not taking another LB'er in the 2nd after just doing it last year.

WR, CB, IOL woudl be the areas I'd focus on.

ToxSocks 04-30-2021 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15653124)
I'm not taking another LB'er in the 2nd after just doing it last year.

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Doubt that has any bearing on anything.

Stryker 04-30-2021 10:16 AM
I would be happy with any two of these players:

Creed Humphrey
JOK
Terrace Marshall Jr
Kelvin Joseph
Jabril Cox

O.city 04-30-2021 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15653127)
Doubt that has any bearing on anything.
Why wouldn't it?

An off ball LB'er isn't that valuable and the one you took last year needs playing time. It would be a waste.

chiefforlife 04-30-2021 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15653127)
Doubt that has any bearing on anything.
Right! Its not like LBr is solved. Still a huge need.

kccrow 04-30-2021 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15653116)
I don't see a ton of good edge rushers left at all. I see 2 or 3 really. At least guys that are realistically 2nd rounders.
There's a slew of teams that need them at the top of the round as well...

Jaguars
Jets
Falcons
Bengals
Cowboys
Chargers

to name a few...

The chances of us having a quality DE prospect fall in our laps, and especially Basham, is probably zero.

htismaqe 04-30-2021 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15653124)
I'm not taking another LB'er in the 2nd after just doing it last year.

WR, CB, IOL woudl be the areas I'd focus on.
I wouldn't focus on LB but if a BPA guy falls, you need to look at him.

I mean if for some reason JOK were to be within reach, you take that guy. He's a utility player, not just a LB. Cox is a coverage LB unlike anybody currently on the team. He'd be a consideration as well because those guys wouldn't necessarily come off the field in passing situations.

staylor26 04-30-2021 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15653116)
I don't see a ton of good edge rushers left at all. I see 2 or 3 really. At least guys that are realistically 2nd rounders.
Really not sure why you think Ojulari isn’t a fit. He’s good against the run and he has some freakishly long arms. He can absolutely play 4-3 DE.

O.city 04-30-2021 10:18 AM
They don't play with 3 LB'ers on the field much at all. You've got Gay and Hitchens in there this season.

If there's someone you could take to replace HItchens I guess go for it, but that seems a bit redundant.

chiefforlife 04-30-2021 10:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 15653129)
I would be happy with any two of these players:

Creed Humphrey
JOK
Terrace Marshall Jr
Kelvin Joseph
Jabril Cox
I like this list, would add Tommy Tremble.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-30-2021 10:18 AM
Our O line depth is actually pretty solid as in. Allegretti, Wylie, LDT, Remmers. And Schwartz could come back. Honestly I don’t see us taking an OL.

htismaqe 04-30-2021 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15653133)
There's a slew of teams that need them at the top of the round as well...

Jaguars
Jets
Falcons
Bengals
Cowboys
Chargers

to name a few...

The chances of us having a quality DE prospect fall in our laps, and especially Basham, is probably zero.
Exactly. I just don't see enough depth at DE for one to get to us. Too many guys went at the end of round one.


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