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Molitoth 01-08-2018 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13345179)
I think we should trade Peters so instead of just getting torched on one side of the field it can be both.

lol :clap:

TEX 01-08-2018 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13345179)
I think we should trade Peters so instead of just getting torched on one side of the field it can be both.


:clap: ROFL

Mosbonian 01-08-2018 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13345299)
Good idea. Lets just completely rip the ass out of this defense instead of supplementing the 5 talented guys we already have.

Which 5 are you talking about?

Best22 01-08-2018 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 13345289)
Peters value is at a premium right now; with him the defense still sucks but is in need of a major overhaul.

What difference does it make if we keep him provided that the defense still sucks? They’re still gonna suck anyway provided that they keep Sutton. Peters is only one guy. One piece to the puzzle that isn’t even as important compared to other areas of the defense like def coordinator, pass rusher, etc.

The message is quite simple defense needs a rebuild and at this point in time it’s about getting our priorities in order. They could trade Peters and maybe get a 1st rounder for him? That would be excellent value and I’d do it in a heartbeat if it means getting a top pass rusher through the draft. Even if we can’t find a better corner to replace him, we could still get excellent value for him in return and address other important areas of the defense. Jmo.

*Besides we shouldn’t even be thinking about keeping Peters at this point. We should be thinking about stripping this whole defense down and rebuilding it from the bottom up. We just have to rebuild there and in order to do that, we need the best possible value by getting the best draft pick possible or trying to as many draft picks as possible. You want good value? You need to give up something to get something good in return. That’s how it goes sometimes. Something has to give.

Heck, I’d Trade him and Alex Smith to Cleveland.

The D isn't that bad. How about keep our young talented defenders, release DJ and Hali, draft defenders, maybe get someone in FA, then find a new DC. They shouldn't have to hold teams to 14ppg considering the talent we have on the other side of the ball.

Chief_For_Life58 01-08-2018 11:32 AM

It comes back to the ownership. Jerry Jones, The Rooneys, Robert Kraft, Al Davis back in his prime, you think those guys would even let Andy Reid even back to the locker room after giving up a 21-3 lead at halftime against the shitty playoff team this year? Andy Reid should be fired immediately for that total team loss. But Clark does not care if we win superbowls or not, i've said this for 5 years now being apart of this board, he sees the chiefs as another asset in his portfolio. He does not give a shit if we win superbowls or not, he hands the keys to the gm/hc and says ok talk to you next month thanks.

Sassy Squatch 01-08-2018 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 13345571)
Which 5 are you talking about?

Jones, Houston, Ragland, Peters, Berry.

Marcellus 01-08-2018 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 13345607)
It comes back to the ownership. Jerry Jones, The Rooneys, Robert Kraft, Al Davis back in his prime, you think those guys would even let Andy Reid even back to the locker room after giving up a 21-3 lead at halftime against the shitty playoff team this year? Andy Reid should be fired immediately for that total team loss. But Clark does not care if we win superbowls or not, i've said this for 5 years now being apart of this board, he sees the chiefs as another asset in his portfolio. He does not give a shit if we win superbowls or not, he hands the keys to the gm/hc and says ok talk to you next month thanks.

:facepalm:

Chief_For_Life58 01-08-2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13345615)
:facepalm:

How am I incorrect? The Hunts fly in sunday morning and fly back to dallas sunday afternoon. They dont care whats going on here. They have their mls team, a shit ton of real estate, the chiefs, and god knows what else, they care about the bottom line. They dont come to the stadium everyday and try and figure out how to make this team better. Theyre sitting at dallas country club checking their bank accounts sitting at the pool. Prove me wrong

gblowfish 01-08-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 13345624)
How am I incorrect? The Hunts fly in sunday morning and fly back to dallas sunday afternoon. They dont care whats going on here. They have their mls team, a shit ton of real estate, the chiefs, and god knows what else, they care about the bottom line. They dont come to the stadium everyday and try and figure out how to make this team better. Theyre sitting at dallas country club checking their bank accounts sitting at the pool. Prove me wrong

Treasure Bath!!!

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Marcellus 01-08-2018 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 13345624)
How am I incorrect? The Hunts fly in sunday morning and fly back to dallas sunday afternoon. They dont care whats going on here. They have their mls team, a shit ton of real estate, the chiefs, and god knows what else, they care about the bottom line. They dont come to the stadium everyday and try and figure out how to make this team better. Theyre sitting at dallas country club checking their bank accounts sitting at the pool. Prove me wrong

Well first off you have no "proof" of anything its just conjecture. Your comments about sitting around checking their bank account is nothing but sour grapes nonsense because your mad the team lost.

I could easily argue Clark has done what he needs to do, he is paying top money for coaches and players and he signed off on giving 2 1st round draft picks for a franchise QB.

All you are doing is barking the same old nonsense regardless off whats actually been taking place.

I am fully aware of our teams failures but guess what, a ton of that blame goes on the QB and we will have a new one.

In a nutshell your argument is because the latest result was the same (playoff loss) it means the methods and standards are all just the same but in reality there is proof in Mahomes that there has in fact been a change in method and belief.

We have a very young and pretty talented offense, we need to retool on defense.

Clark didn't give Hali a DJ those terrible contracts and he didn't blow Houston's knee out 2 years ago or Eric Berry's Achilles. He did however ensure Berry was resigned even though it was expensive.

I get it we lost a game in epic fashion, again. I was at the ****ing game, it sucked.

The reality is there is a really bright future with this team if they hit on this next off season.

TEX 01-08-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13345644)
Well first off you have no "proof" of anything its just conjecture. Your comments about sitting around checking their bank account is nothing but sour grapes nonsense because your mad the team lost.

I could easily argue Clark has done what he needs to do, he is paying top money for coaches and players and he signed off on giving 2 1st round draft picks for a franchise QB.

All you are doing is barking the same old nonsense regardless off whats actually been taking place.

I am fully aware of our teams failures but guess what, a ton of that blame goes on the QB and we will have a new one.

In a nutshell your argument is because the latest result was the same (playoff loss) it means the methods and standards are all just the same but in reality there is proof in Mahomes that there has in fact been a change in method and belief.

We have a very young and pretty talented offense, we need to retool on defense.

Clark didn't give Hali a DJ those terrible contracts and he didn't blow Houston's knee out 2 years ago or Eric Berry's Achilles. He did however ensure Berry was resigned even though it was expensive.

I get it we lost a game in epic fashion, again. I was at the ****ing game, it sucked.

The reality is there is a really bright future with this team if they hit on this next off season.

Yep. One side of the ball is good. Get a new DC and a bit more talent and we'll be off to a very good start. If we can just get this defense to be middle of the pack- I think it will be enough to be in the hunt for real.

cooper barrett 01-08-2018 11:51 AM

I've made suggestions to let Clark know the natives are upset, Boycotting a game, no parking revenues. and **** his threats to move...Hunt Midwest would crash and burn...

Peters isn't going anywhere without his replacement coming in trade. Big shoes to fill IMHO

DaneMcCloud 01-08-2018 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 13343478)
Berry and has always been a liability against the run.

What the **** is this shit?

DaneMcCloud 01-08-2018 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 13344798)
There’s a zero percent chance I’m trading Peters. Advocating for this is some nonsense. The chiefs need more passionate defensive players.

Trading Peters would be absolutely ****ing stupid.

Also, I'm ****ing tired of hearing how "Great" John Dorsey was as a GM, when he ****ed up time and time and time again.

3rd rounder on Russell, 3rd rounder for Maclin, 6th rounder for Maclin, shitty ****ing free agency deals that left more than $70 million in Dead Cap Space in 2017 with more in 2018.

Had Dorsey been a competent GM that drafted well and avoided big time contracts in Free Agency, this team would likely have more depth and would have been able to survive all of their injuries to starters.

Guys like Sorensen, Murray, Jarvis Jenkins, Bryan Witzmann, Demetrious Harris and Orson Charles should be fringe roster guys, not guys that see high snap counts each week.

Veach has got his work cut out for him this offseason and trading Peters would be the worst way to start out the new League Year.

bricks 01-08-2018 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13345594)
The D isn't that bad. How about keep our young talented defenders, release DJ and Hali, draft defenders, maybe get someone in FA, then find a new DC. They shouldn't have to hold teams to 14ppg considering the talent we have on the other side of the ball.

I disagree. This defense is horrible. The only thing that justifies Sutton keeping his job is the amount of ppg his defenses give up. But still.....I’m not so sure about that and I’ll get to that later.

if you really look at this defense, they give up yards at will. So easy to knock off and push around, lacks attitude, adjustments, players aren’t put into position to succeed, etc. Yeah there is some good talent here and there but also some dead weight as well.

*But yeah I’ve had it though with this defense because blowing two leads in the playoffs of a combined 46 points definitely outweighs the average amount of ppg they give up in the regular season.

Maybe keeping our young def players is or isn’t the better option? But we do need draft picks, especially a 1st rounder since we compromised our own to Buffalo for Mahomes. Gotta give up something to get something sometimes and maybe we are better off trading one of our young players?


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