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Mr. Laz 04-29-2017 01:45 PM

bigger version of West?

TLO 04-29-2017 01:52 PM

I heard his brother Mike played at OSU in the 80's.

FloridaMan88 04-29-2017 02:01 PM

Chiefs need a home run threat to compliment Ware/West and Hunt doesn't seem to fit that profile.

Of course Hill can always line-up in the backfield and fill that home run rushing threat role as well.

Baby Lee 04-29-2017 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 12849222)
I heard his brother Mike played at OSU in the 80's.

You really should try it Kareemed.

RunKC 04-29-2017 02:08 PM

You guys will feel better about this guy when he is converting short yardage 3rd downs.

Dante84 04-29-2017 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12849279)
Chiefs need a home run threat to compliment Ware/West and Hunt doesn't seem to fit that profile.

Of course Hill can always line-up in the backfield and fill that home run rushing threat role as well.

I disagree.

I think West should be replaced, Ware should move to 1b, while we have a David Johnson guy to be the feature back.

Don't forget that Hill will take touches from the backfield, and serve as that home run rushing threat if need by.

Edit: Im a dumbass

Baby Lee 04-29-2017 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12849279)
Chiefs need a home run threat to compliment Ware/West and Hunt doesn't seem to fit that profile.

Of course Hill can always line-up in the backfield and fill that home run rushing threat role as well.

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 12849466)
I disagree.

I think West should be replaced, Ware should move to 1b, while we have a David Johnson guy to be the feature back.

Don't forget that Hill will take touches from the backfield, and serve as that home run rushing threat if need by.

Is it just me? Am I taking goofy pills? ;)

Dante84 04-29-2017 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12849470)
Is it just me? Am I taking goofy pills? ;)

hahahaha

Im tired and hungover. My bad.

Mr. Laz 04-29-2017 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 12849466)
I disagree.

I think West should be replaced, Ware should move to 1b, while we have a David Johnson guy to be the feature back.

Don't forget that Hill will take touches from the backfield, and serve as that home run rushing threat if need by.

Edit: Im a dumbass

I agree that West is the one that should lose touches.

We throw so many passes to stretch the defense laterally that running up the middle helps more than running laterally.

Warrick 04-29-2017 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 12848030)
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He has all the tools to serve as Rb1 and share a role with Ware, all kinds of home run ability too.

go bo 04-29-2017 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12847876)
That's why Priest and Emmitt Smith sucked ass.

i was just thinking that...

one of the greatest offenses ever seen in kc had a slow running back just like that...

and there were times he didn't score when he broke free, that's true also...

me likee berry berry mucho grandeist!

hometeam 04-29-2017 05:43 PM

Stole this from reddit, and reformatted it to fit CP - good in depth breakdown - all credit to u/WastedFrog.

Today's report is on Toledo RB Kareem Hunt. I wanted to do someone a little less known since everyone has opinions on the top guys already.

Measurables
Height: 5'10
Weight: 216
40 time: 4.62
Vert: 36.5
Broad: 9'11"

Elite Traits

Physicality
Kareem Hunt is a very difficult man to tackle. The first man to lay hands on him being the one who brings him down is a rare occurrence. His tackle breaking ability is right up there with guys like Leonard Fournette. Plays like these are easy to find with Hunt. He regularly shrugs off linebackers.

http://imgur.com/ToenWEt.gif
http://imgur.com/4JXwYwl.gif
http://imgur.com/49P770o.gif

Ball Security
in his college career of four seasons, 782 carries and 73 receptions he never once lost the football. NEVER. that is insane.

Effort
It's weird to put this in elite traits but I have rarely seen RBs who consistently play as hard as Hunt. He is ALWAYS fighting for that extra yard.

NFL Level Traits

Vision
Hunt has that crucial RB gift of seeing where the hole is going to be when he gets there. he rarely has to hesitate unnecessarily behind the line reading his blocks. He can get small and squeeze through a small hole. his first cut is very quick and to the point which helps him be decisive and follow his eyes.. His vision isn't limited to hitting the line either. he can read a field in open space just as well. this gif is a good example of his vision for both the line and open field.

http://imgur.com/BlDKE2X.gif
http://imgur.com/I2UGUHC.gif
http://imgur.com/z3GMqu1.gif

Elusiveness
for as much as he relies on being able to break tackles he's no slouch when it comes to shaking opponents off before they can touch him. Hunt is a big fan of the spin move, and he's damn good at it, though it can get him into trouble as well. He man make very fast jump cuts to get away from low tackles. He moves quickly and with purpose to make guys miss in the open field. His combination of elusiveness and physicality often leads to runs like this where he shows off the best he's got in both regards

http://imgur.com/wca0m96.gif
http://imgur.com/UgBPWvK.gif
http://imgur.com/R5qKIPN.gif
http://imgur.com/hBbFJA7.gif

Balance
He runs with his shoulders down to keep his center of Gravity low and it really shows. He recovers from near falls when other RBs would be on their asses. In this play he ends up with his hand on the ground but recovers incredibly fast and jukes an oncoming defender. This play is just amazing

http://imgur.com/Vl2JgYC.gif
http://imgur.com/9uso2Ek.gif

Workhorse
In this age of RBBC and pass catching backs there aren't as many of these guys around anymore. This gif of back to back tough physical runs is something you'll see several times a game from Hunt. if you want a guy who is gonna be on the field for most of the game, Hunt is on your list.

http://imgur.com/tUS22Jk.gif

Hands
Hunt wasn't used as a pass catcher a ton. Mostly as a dumpoff receiver, but he has soft hands and a couple amazing catches (see the last gif in Balance). I watched 6 games and he caught multiple passes in each and never dropped one.

Needs Work

Pass Protection
If he's gonna be an every down back he's gonna have to get better at pass blocking. his cut blocks can be half assed at times and he needs to learn to get a better leverage advantage. he sometimes gets bullied

http://imgur.com/lNeOef7.gif

Route Running
He just didn't do a lot of this but given NFL trends, his good hands and his ability to make plays in space he's going to be asked to do more in the NFL. aside from a couple wheel routes I don't think he has ever run a route. I think he has the skills to do it but he's gonna take a while to learn it.

Negatives

Build
He's a little on the small side. while he did fine in his conference the bigger stronger NFL players could cause a leverage problem when he's trying to out physical the defense. it even shows up on occasion in college tape. I love this next gif because it shows his biggest weakness and his biggest strength. He gets shoved back because he can't get a leverage advantage and then shows his effort in getting back to the line

http://imgur.com/FqiIb3J.gif

Dancing
While he gets an A for effort it also gets him into trouble a lot. there are a lot of cases of him dancing around trying to break out from a hopeless situation instead of just taking the yards he has available.

Speed
Hunt just doesn't have breakaway speed. Think of someone like Frank Gore. He can get you a ton of yards and he's fast enough to get into space but if it comes down to a footrace against a DB, he's not gonna win it.

Pro Comparison: Spencer Ware

I went into this only having watched one game of his before now and thinking he's an early day 3 back. Now I'll be very surprised if he lasts past the 3rd. Hunt is a legit NFL starter IMO. More than that he's an every down back. I suppose his lack of size and the depth of the class could push him down ala Kenneth Dixon last year (another good comparison for Hunt as a player) but I won't agree with it if it happens.

Easy 6 04-29-2017 08:27 PM

Thats a nice sample of his skills from hometeam, I considered quoting it in full just to piss everyone off :D

But seriously, dude is just solid... no, there is no wow factor in regard to speed or insane jukes, but the guy just guts it out every time

He is a chain mover, not a home run hitter, maxes out every opportunity to the best of his ability... I'm thinking Duce Staley

Chiefshrink 04-29-2017 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12850207)
I'm thinking Duce Staley

Ya know that is a very good comparison because I had him as Giovanni Bernard with attitude. Kudos to you my friend ! I think you nailed it !!

Easy 6 04-29-2017 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 12850212)
Ya know that is a very good comparison because I had him as Giovanni Bernard with attitude. Kudos to you my friend ! I think you nailed it !!

Bernard is totally valid as well, guys like this dont scare the hell out of anyone... but they give your offense another set of downs to scare them with


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