As I recall dad telling it, a favorite haunt of granddad’s was down in the Bottoms - Joe’s Flood Room. That name wasn’t just drawn out of a hat.

Kansas will just take out another STAR bond for the flood insurance.

This. Everything about Petco is perfect.

Looks like a beautiful park. Have you been to Pittsburgh stadium? That looks beautiful too

PNC Park is the best in the majors. Unfortunately, the Pirates are run by Mark Davis' cheap cousin.

Just the football stadium which is next to it. They’re both incredible and you can walk to them from downtown across a bridge which makes the entire experience really special.

That was probably a once in a lifetime thing. What was it, 2018 it poured for what seemed like a month straight and didn't get near 93?

I'm still hoping for east village as well. I don't care about having the 13th best skyline view in sports.
Let's stop looking at other stadiums as what the royals stadium should be, instead it should be the best KCMO stadium it can be.. bbq, negro leagues, municipal stadium, jazz, many fountains inside and out, Blvd beer, etc.

PNC is phenomenal. We saw two Royals games there in 2021, and as Twisted stated, loved simply walking across the Roberto Clemente Bridge from our hotel to the ballpark. Pittsburgh in general was a pleasant surprise, surpassing our expectations and proving to be a charming city. Of all the dozens of ballparks I've visited, PNC makes the shortlist with the likes of Fenway, Wrigley, and Oracle (San Francisco, renamed a few times).

I have yet to see Petco in San Diego, nor Camden Yards in Baltimore but definitely have them at the top of the need-to-visit list. There is something about a great baseball stadium that most other sports can't recreate. The only non-baseball venue that I have attended, and does have comparable mystique is Allen Fieldhouse.

At the time, it was called “the hundred year flood”. Literally nothing like it for a hundred years. It just wouldn’t stop raining all Spring and Summer. Some days super heavy rain, other days, just a light rain. It was like midday Florida every day, and the whole region got swept away. The Mississippi flooded, the Missouri, the Kansas…. It was so hard to mow the yard that year. The ground was so saturated. I remember mowing in the rain certain days just to keep up so the grass wouldn’t get too out of control.

Our basement finally couldn’t take it. Literal seepage through the cement and concrete just slowly seeping through the walls. Had to get little water pumps and run em 24/7. It was nuts, and nothing like the people who had houses and farms get washed away.

At any rate, I like the look of this design more than others I’ve seen, but it still needs work, and it’s a kitschy, fun idea for a homer to cross state lines. At least this guy is coming up with interesting, fun ideas. I think we can all agree is the worst thing to happen, would be to get a bright, shiny new ballpark that turns into Busch Stadium 3.

A new ballpark doesn’t have to be in the perfect part of the city, and that’s a helluva subjective thing for the people who live in KC and all the rest of us that just wanna see this thing get figured out. But that new ballpark better make us sorta feel “special” the way Kauffman has for the past 50+ years. The scoreboard crown off the interstate and fountains are iconic. In one glance, everyone knows where the game is: KC.

I visited KC a few weeks ago… walked around the P&L, down Grand, went to the Green Lady Lounge past the strip club. Frankly, I don’t get it. There’s nothing there. What am I missing? I see very little businesses getting disrupted or pushed out through progress or imminent domain. Seems like a fine place to plop a ballpark in and watch the existing businesses flourish on 81 game days, and perhaps encourage some other business on Grand beyond a Sinclair gas station?

Walked around the East Village part too. This could be terrific too, for different reasons.

I guess I just don’t understand. But I also lived in NYC when the whole town couldn’t get their thumb out of their collective asses and decided to rebuild Giants/Jets Stadium while Hudson Yards was available or the Brooklyn Yards.
And now NYC has a shitload of jagoff artsy fartsy crap and condos blowing up in the Hudson Yards while the New Jersey Nets turned into the Brooklyn Nets with a Whaddya know, brand new Barclays Center. 70 years ago, that should’ve been the landing place of the Brooklyn Dodgers had Robert Moses and local jagoff NYC politics not gone sideways.

The Coors Field and Petco Park examples are the hope of what could be done. They nailed it, and PNC is another, though I think that’s a bit different. Maybe the Royals could go downtown KCMO while the Chiefs go to Clay County and create their district there?

I think Kansas getting involved is a very good thing. It only lends leverage to both clubs getting what they want, but if you’re a sad sack taxpayer who hates those goddamn billionaires, then you’ll never be happy with any outcome unless it is all private pocket, and you’ll still bitch because there is no perfect outcome for everyone to be happy.

I just wanna see both teams stay in KC until the end of my days and I’m pretty sure I’ll figure out how to manage.

I don't have to drive over that bridge everyday to know it ruins lives, tyvm.

I used to party down in LoDo in the late eighties early nineties.

:)

Here's an aerial view of LoDo in the 80s. The circle is Union Station and the square is where Coors field ended up.

https://i.imgur.com/4ftecsA.jpeg

And here's one from the 2010s.

https://i.imgur.com/Wpj8IIz.jpeg

East Village still makes the most sense. I don’t know that you can street car and bus and walk and blah blah blah enough to offset the ingress/egress issues that spot in the west bottoms would have. You’re boxed in by bluffs and a river with 670 as your only real heavy traffic route