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OnTheWarpath15 03-17-2022 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16196053)
{Checks stats again}

You sure about that?

JuJu is actually a pretty poor fit out of the slot, IMO.

He's just not quick enough to use the space to his advantage. And it's harder to out-physical guys from that spot because they typically line up off the LOS so you can't get into their body before they're able to establish position.

I don't think he's a good slot option at all really. He really should spend the majority of his time outside.

Well, that's where they play him the most. 82% of snaps from the slot in 2020 and 65% in his 5 games last year.

chiefforlife 03-17-2022 08:08 AM

If the money was right, Id bring back Tyrann.

Imagine what Spags could cook up with those three Safeties. QBs would have no idea whos doing what, until its to late!

Balto 03-17-2022 08:13 AM

Don’t think HB will take Sorensen money

DJ's left nut 03-17-2022 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16196064)
Well, that's where they play him the most. 82% of snaps from the slot in 2020 and 65% in his 5 games last year.

And he was quite lousy both seasons, no?

I think playing in the slot as much as he has the last few years is part of his problem.

He just doesn't have the necessary skill-set for it, IMO. If he were bigger and could body guys off, great. If he were quicker and could beat them into space, also great.

But he's a tweener in that regard. He needs to be out wide where he can utilize leverage and be schemed open a bit better. That's just easier to do out there where you don't have the morass in the middle.

Which kind of gets me back to where I started with him - I'm just not sure he's very good. I struggle to find things he truly does well.

DJ's left nut 03-17-2022 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16196060)
I mean it’s not the worst idea…

Could be a very good two high, Thornhill+Reid, scheme with HB being in the box as that lb/s hybrid.

Could work but money probably can’t

It's an awful idea.

Think of how mouthy that dude was last season. And how prone to showing up his teammates.

Now make him a rotational player who has to play 'behind' Justin Reid. Tell me he's going to take well to that.

I wouldn't want him back on the minimum. This roster needs a TON of change including at key leadership positions (part of my frustration with bringing back Clark).

The Bring Shit Back tour isn't a good plan at all.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-17-2022 08:23 AM

I hope everyone realizes that we can restructure contracts anytime we want. Just Friday is the deadline so looks like we won’t be doing anything in free agnecy

DJ's left nut 03-17-2022 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16196084)
I hope everyone realizes that we can restructure contracts anytime we want. Just Friday is the deadline so looks like we won’t be doing anything in free agnecy

It blows my mind that you continue to lecture people on how cap mechanics work when you clearly haven't the foggiest ****ing idea.

You can't restructure bonuses that haven't been earned yet. Two biggest bonuses on the team are roster bonuses that don't trigger until the start of the league year.

i.e. you cannot restructure those bonuses until the start of the league year.

Just go sit in a corner or something.

chiefforlife 03-17-2022 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16196084)
I hope everyone realizes that we can restructure contracts anytime we want. Just Friday is the deadline so looks like we won’t be doing anything in free agnecy

Free agency started YESTERDAY. Its a little early to say we wont do anything?

In fact we signed a good young Safety already...

AdolfOliverBush 03-17-2022 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16196084)
I hope everyone realizes that we can restructure contracts anytime we want. Just Friday is the deadline so looks like we won’t be doing anything in free agnecy

I find that very hard to believe.

The knee-jerk signings at the start of free agency seem to flop more often than they pan out. KC hasn't missed out on any world-beaters that would fill a significant need. Veach isn't sitting at home and pulling his pecker, he definitely has a plan that doesn't involve doing nothing and saying, "**** it".

The Franchise 03-17-2022 08:28 AM

Yeah I’m sure a team that only has 27 dudes on the roster is just going to sit out of FA.

Sign big names? Probably not. But they aren’t sitting out of shit.

OnTheWarpath15 03-17-2022 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16196078)
And he was quite lousy both seasons, no?

I think playing in the slot as much as he has the last few years is part of his problem.

He just doesn't have the necessary skill-set for it, IMO. If he were bigger and could body guys off, great. If he were quicker and could beat them into space, also great.

But he's a tweener in that regard. He needs to be out wide where he can utilize leverage and be schemed open a bit better. That's just easier to do out there where you don't have the morass in the middle.

Which kind of gets me back to where I started with him - I'm just not sure he's very good. I struggle to find things he truly does well.

9 TD's (a career high) in 2020 is lousy? He only played 5 games last year, so hard to judge him there.

But I'm with you on the not sure if he's any good comment. He's had an exceptional season in 2018, a decent season in 2020 and the rest are clunkers.

I'm not sure why anyone thinks we should be chasing him other than he's young. I'd much rather have a bigger body in Robinson, who besides last year has produced his entire career with dogshit QB's.

The Franchise 03-17-2022 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16196099)
9 TD's (a career high) in 2020 is lousy? He only played 5 games last year, so hard to judge him there.

But I'm with you on the not sure if he's any good comment. He's had an exceptional season in 2018, a decent season in 2020 and the rest are clunkers.

I'm not sure why anyone thinks we should be chasing him other than he's young. I'd much rather have a bigger body in Robinson, who besides last year has produced his entire career with dogshit QB's.

I think most of us would choose Robinson.

I just don’t think he’s coming here and we probably won’t be able to afford him. I could be wrong though. Maybe they’re saving up all of their FA cap space to get Robinson and then this defense is going to be draft picks and smaller deals for hopefully ascending players.

And the talk about Juju all stems from last year when we almost had him.

TwistedChief 03-17-2022 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16195885)
There are a few of us that wanted KC to draft Sweat before we traded that pick for Frank.

He’s been great for Washington.

For the record, Sweat wasn't on the Chiefs board because of medicals.

Balto 03-17-2022 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16196081)
It's an awful idea.

Think of how mouthy that dude was last season. And how prone to showing up his teammates.

Now make him a rotational player who has to play 'behind' Justin Reid. Tell me he's going to take well to that.

I wouldn't want him back on the minimum. This roster needs a TON of change including at key leadership positions (part of my frustration with bringing back Clark).

The Bring Shit Back tour isn't a good plan at all.

Valid points but take that crap out of it and it could be a very nice defensive scheme. Spags loves throwing 3 safeties out there and would do it even more if this happened.

CatfishBob2 03-17-2022 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16196099)
9 TD's (a career high) in 2020 is lousy? He only played 5 games last year, so hard to judge him there.

But I'm with you on the not sure if he's any good comment. He's had an exceptional season in 2018, a decent season in 2020 and the rest are clunkers.

I'm not sure why anyone thinks we should be chasing him other than he's young. I'd much rather have a bigger body in Robinson, who besides last year has produced his entire career with dogshit QB's.




I think he's Byron Pringle but wayyyy more physical. He fits well with two other megastars.


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