Wow...that's twisted logic, Wickedson. So it's really a "good" thing that KU has a ticket scandal. Right...got it!???

Bottom line here: KU has a $40 million capital debt going right now. It is leveraged to the hilt and then some. If they fall out of a BCS conference, it's OVER. They won't be able to generate the money they need for the debt service, let alone paying off that obligation.

The other thing is look at how freaking bloated KU's athletic department is? Their staff is way over paid and there are how many assistant and associate ADs there? Many of them are making in excess of $200K. What does KU think it is...TEXAS?

Well not exactly. KU is not that great compared to the top teams in the big 12 but I think they are good enough that they could compete in other conferences.

:D

Yeah, that's a good point. Plus, basketball isn't the revenue sport that football is and an independent program probably couldn't support itself.

Maybe they could compete. My question was about value added. Without basketball, what does a conference gain by taking KU?

Of course it's not "a good thing".

My point is that only a few schools have this problem.

Missouri doesn't because it's tickets are never in demand, except maybe when they're playing KU.

None of them has anything to do with being competitive. It has to do with TVs, and academics.

A conference that would take KU without BBAll?

Probably not. But there aren't many schools who would be accepted without their number one sport.

Maybe Texas, Florida, OSU.... then who?

Yeah...the fact that we sold out the Cotton Bowl in record time really supports your point... :rolleyes: Even the douchebags in Texas were amazed by how strongly Missouri fans took over the event.

As a KU football season ticket holder I think it adds a lot of value but then again I'm a homer. But KU football has been on the rise and had the team not given up on Mangino last year they would have won a few more of those close games. I may be alone in this but I think Turner Gill is going to take this football team to new levels.

AH...I do too. I think Gill was a great hire and I'm not a KU fan. However, KU fans have to realize that every time you switch coaches, it's going to take time for the new staff to install their systems and get the players they need. KU will have growing pains this year.

Turner Gil is a ****ing joke theres a reason Nebraska didn't hire him and the guy can't even keep talent in the state.

Do Kansas City and Wichita markets not count for anything? Also KU is just fine in academics.

What kind of Nebraska fan would write that about one of their former great players? Really...that is lame beyond lame. Billay...are you 14 years old or something?

ROFL You're an idiot.