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Big 12 basketball will be a must watch
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Basketball in the Big 12 is going to be downright ridiculous. Especially if they add Gonzaga and UConn for basketball only. You could make a genuine argument the below teams are top 30 programs in the country currently. All of them with extremely passionate fan bases.
Kansas, Arizona, Baylor, Gonzaga, UConn, Houston, Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas State, West Virginia |
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If one of the P2 decides it wants a Big 12 school in the future, the Big 12 now has sufficient numbers to prevent a collapse from a departure or two. |
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Football and to some extent men’s basketball is funding the non-revenue sports so these fragile softball players need to get a grip…
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Several softball players who compete for schools that are leaving the Pac-12 have spoken out against the latest round of conference realignment.<br><br>They cited mental health and further distances for their families to travel for road games. <a href="https://t.co/jeURfGGqjC">pic.twitter.com/jeURfGGqjC</a></p>— Andy Wittry (@AndyWittry) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndyWittry/status/1687691457119838208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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So there should be plenty of great games in the conference and the conference race may be exciting, but I for one will be sad to no longer see each team play home and away. Not sure what happens for the conference tournament. |
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So that's 8 games there and fill in the remaining with other teams that will alternate home/away every year. Of course, this is just spitballin, but I can see an angle like this. |
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Lulz...clown show
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Combing thru some tweets and the Alex Smith ute fanbase are some delusional ****s. These guys are like Kentucky fans of the west. But kentucky has actually won stuff, maybe iowa states little bro? Had no idea what we were in for but if it brings more trolling opportunities I'll gladly take it.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Utah will now move on to the Big 12 and just run that conference ����*♂️</p>— Terrell Burgess (@TiTaniumT98) <a href="https://twitter.com/TiTaniumT98/status/1687630916347219968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just remember when you see Utah fans talking about how they’re going to walk into the Big 12 and dominate it, this is who we’re dealing with. <a href="https://t.co/B65yDe1QL6">pic.twitter.com/B65yDe1QL6</a></p>— qǝlɐɔ (@EMAWCaleb) <a href="https://twitter.com/EMAWCaleb/status/1687849040963104768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Utah?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Utah</a> fan is sick to his stomach at the thought of having to play in any of those crappy <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Big12?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Big12</a> towns. <a href="https://t.co/s4iPfL0YbV">pic.twitter.com/s4iPfL0YbV</a></p>— Message Board Geniuses (@BoardGeniuses) <a href="https://twitter.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1684942015568523264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Now that we are the top dog in the Big12 we need to lay out some ground rules:<br><br>-We aren’t happy about being here either, but we’re happy to beat the shit of you while we are<br>-BYU, Cincy, UCF, and whatever that fourth school was are second rate Big12 members who can suck it<br>-Utah…</p>— Dwight SchrUTE 🌹🌹 (@DwightSchru_UTE) <a href="https://twitter.com/DwightSchru_UTE/status/1687618853931757573?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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But these players need to understand reality. The schools left because the difference in media money would make the schools couldn't compete with the big boys in the long run. They didn't leave on a lark. They left for smart, financial reasons. And I am tired of everyone citing mental health and people rolling over because of it. It is an excuse at this point. Good grief, student athletes have it easy compared to what their age group went through decades ago. And the players can stay close to home. Transfer to a Big Sky school. Or the WCC. But then they would complain because they wouldn't receive the same benefits as at a power five school. |
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USC bolting from the PAC12 was a killer for that conference.
Big12 got some good gets. |
Why would you be shocked people don't respect or happy about joining the Big Dumpster fire?
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As a Jayhawk, I don't really care about regional rivalries. (What KSU rivalry?) I would rather have a chance to play twice against the teams in contention for the conference title that's just as likely to be Baylor or Arizona. Oh well. Glad it was the PAC12 that disintegrated not the Big12. |
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With all of this....it sounds like the BIG 10 has a plan in place for the future.
and the others are playing catch up. BIG should add FSU and ND. FSU brings in money from cable systems in FLA. ND brings a name. Remaining Pac 10 and Mountain west combine. |
Decent read
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Let's use Oregon as an example. For football, this re-alignment doesn't do much in terms of travel. May want to fly out Thursday night instead of Friday to have more time to adjust to time zones, but overall a non-factor. Every other sport is at a disadvantage though. How are road trips going to work for every other sport? Do those teams just stay in the Midwest or East for 2 weeks? Or do they travel mid-week to go across the country before coming back on the weekend? |
I can't wait until Oregon comes into Iowa City in November and is confused about why they got beat 10 to 3 and couldn't score 55 points.
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Started thinking about bowl possibilities again. It will be interesting to see what the new bowl affiliations will be after this period I believe the big ten is in charge of bowl selection Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk |
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5 hours if they fly to BWI to play Maryland. That’s OK for football or any sport that plays exclusively on weekends. That would be absolute hell to fly in Monday night for a Tuesday basketball game, fly back Tuesday night, and fly out again Friday for a Saturday game for 3-4 hours. Nebraska would be shortest flight for the furthest West teams and that’s still 3+ hours followed by flying into Chicago, which is just under 4 hours. |
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It is not optimal but the athletes need to understand that this was the best long term for the university and players. Like horse racing, you need money to be top tier in college athletics. Oregon and Washington were looking at $20 per year versus $70-80 for Big Ten teams. |
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Other than that, yes, leaving for the Big 12 or B1G was the next best thing due to the financial instability of the conference. I think we're aligned in that they'll probably do the two weeks trip when going to the Midwest or East Coast. Otherwise, you're putting your team at even more of a disadvantage for more frequent transcontinental flights. |
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This is Herm’s dumbshit friend?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Arizona State AD Ray Anderson discussing move to Big 12: "I promise I'm not going to Morgantown. I'm going to sign that to (deputy AD) Jean Boyd. He can go to Morgantown. But send me to Texas & the rivalry w/Arizona & starting a new one w/BYU, Utah & Colorado"</p>— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1688270639600148480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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But this new crop of teams, coming in as pretentious as they are, are clearly wanting to change that. |
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*Not money though. Guy like that donates plasma. (Poor’s gonna poor.) |
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Lot of rocks being thrown by the axis that has to claim reerun and pete.
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Yes, USC and UCLA have more money, but you do have to wonder if the future non football and non basketball athletes might consider schools with easier travel. |
This really sucks for the teams left behind. You guys can give each other as much shit as shit as you want, but this is not a good thing.
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San Diego State has that massive exit fee from the Mountain West and Oregon State adds minimal value.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hearing Oregon State and San Diego State have had very preliminary talks with the Big 12 over the last 48 hours. Key word is preliminary and it would be at discounted rates.</p>— Jason Scheer (@jasonscheer) <a href="https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/status/1688364287008575488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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No, I'm not thrilled. I'd rather go back to the original Big12, but that ain't happening. |
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Academia, the loudest voices about climate change, have sanctioned these idiotic super conferences where Olympic sports and women's soccer are going to travel four to five time zones in a jet airplane all for the almighty dollar. What's their carbon footprint going to be? Universities have no room to stand upon critiquing the actions of an oil company. They're no different. |
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But I do see your poing. 1 reason get some more east coast teans for Cincy WV and UCF. But it looks like the Zags will be joining sometime for basketball SDSU would be a good addition. But how big is too big? |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Using overall record winning % of teams in the 2022-23 season -- this is what a potential Big 12 Tournament week could look like in Kansas City come 2024. This is the men's records -- it would be 2 consecutive weeks with the Women's Tournament. <a href="https://t.co/LCKNbAJ3Eh">pic.twitter.com/LCKNbAJ3Eh</a></p>— Harold R. Kuntz (@HaroldRKuntz3) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaroldRKuntz3/status/1688411740097179648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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The big 8 has to be one of the most changed conferences ever. (not being mean)
Then I think of the the Missouri Valley conference. |
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I seriously doubt the Mountain West becomes a p5 and if they do. The money won’t be the same |
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Every hippie has their price. |
College sports used to be a regional thing.
Throw that out the window and spin out on it. |
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The Big Ten and the SEC are better off, but everyone else is worse. PAC 12 will either collapse or become a mid major type conference. The Big 12 took in some refugees who didn't have options from bigger conferences, but the Big 12 is not better off than before realignment began. Nobody is winning here except the handful of elite schools in the 2 power conferences. It's not better for 90% of D1, it's definitely not better for fans, not better for the sport in general. Of course, the people whose pockets are lined by all of this are the ones calling for the votes. |
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I was rereading on the College Football Association, Ncaa doing the tv co tracts. The NCAA threatened any team or conference that worked with the CFA with penalties. This led to the Supreme Court decision in 1984 allowing teams and conferences to negotiate on their own behalf This started the dominoes to fall and where we are today |
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But if you’re talking about tv money that started because of the CFA and the Supreme Court decision. It wasn’t around in the 90s and 2010 Yiu can say the greed started back thrn. Planting the seeds The PAC 12 network wasn’t streaming The ACC network wasn’t streaming The Longhorn network wasn’t streaming The Big 10 10 network wasn’t streaming The SEC ACC B10 12 are not streaming tv contracts |
Interesting from Peter King’s column today:
Link: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...mia-peter-king Quote:
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1964. US Supreme Court Decuduon NCAa. Didn’t give it up. They lost. Rhett threatened penalties to anyone that neg for themselves |
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