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Chiefspants 08-05-2023 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17044438)
With Arizona in the conference KU gets bumped to #2 in bball

It’ll be nice to finally have a rival in the conference.

Pablo 08-05-2023 12:50 PM

Big 12 basketball will be a must watch

ForeverIowan 08-05-2023 12:51 PM

Basketball in the Big 12 is going to be downright ridiculous. Especially if they add Gonzaga and UConn for basketball only. You could make a genuine argument the below teams are top 30 programs in the country currently. All of them with extremely passionate fan bases.

Kansas, Arizona, Baylor, Gonzaga, UConn, Houston, Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas State, West Virginia

MarkDavis'Haircut 08-05-2023 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17044462)
cant believe how crazy fast these decisions are being made

These decisions have been discussed for months.

BWillie 08-05-2023 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 17044556)
Basketball in the Big 12 is going to be downright ridiculous. Especially if they add Gonzaga and UConn for basketball only. You could make a genuine argument the below teams are top 30 programs in the country currently. All of them with extremely passionate fan bases.

Kansas, Arizona, Baylor, Gonzaga, UConn, Houston, Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas State, West Virginia

I really think getting Gonzaga and UCONN for basketball only and then in the next media contract separate out the basketball to make more money. I think Yormark is onto something and basketball is going to suddenly get EXTREMELY valuable when the SEC, Big Ten, and Big 12 secede from the NCAA and make their own post season basketball tournament.

ForeverIowan 08-05-2023 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17044564)
I really think getting Gonzaga and UCONN for basketball only and then in the next media contract separate out the basketball to make more money. I think Yormark is onto something and basketball is going to suddenly get EXTREMELY valuable when the SEC, Big Ten, and Big 12 secede from the NCAA and make their own post season basketball tournament.

If I had to guess Duke, Louisville and Pittsburgh may very well be three of the teams from the imploding ACC that end up in the Big 12 as well. Duke of course probably the crown jewel in terms of basketball and Louisville and Pitt pretty rich basketball tradition in their own right.

Wallymo 08-05-2023 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 17043827)
Ope found a few from a brief search. Should dig more but I’m not that petty.

Everyone should give respect to RustShack. Take a look at his posts when OU-UT announced they were leaving in 2021 (November) and USC-UCLA leaving in 2022 (also November). He has pretty much been spot-on for years when it comes to realignment. I wish I could have bet on his predictions. Nicely done, RustShack.

Wallymo 08-05-2023 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17042716)
That’s why I think the Big 12 should just go to 14 with Arizona and then wait to see who they can get from the ACC.

I think there will be a lot more ACC options in play for the Big 12 than people maybe think.., Florida State, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, possibly Miami.

If those schools are ever available the Big 12 would grab them and go to 20. But adding inventory now is smart -- particularly because no member had to sacrifice financially to make it happen.

If one of the P2 decides it wants a Big 12 school in the future, the Big 12 now has sufficient numbers to prevent a collapse from a departure or two.

BWillie 08-05-2023 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 17044572)
If I had to guess Duke, Louisville and Pittsburgh may very well be three of the teams from the imploding ACC that end up in the Big 12 as well. Duke of course probably the crown jewel in terms of basketball and Louisville and Pitt pretty rich basketball tradition in their own right.

If the Big XII can get UNC and Duke that would be such a pipe dream.

FloridaMan88 08-05-2023 01:34 PM

Football and to some extent men’s basketball is funding the non-revenue sports so these fragile softball players need to get a grip…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Several softball players who compete for schools that are leaving the Pac-12 have spoken out against the latest round of conference realignment.<br><br>They cited mental health and further distances for their families to travel for road games. <a href="https://t.co/jeURfGGqjC">pic.twitter.com/jeURfGGqjC</a></p>&mdash; Andy Wittry (@AndyWittry) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndyWittry/status/1687691457119838208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chief Pagan 08-05-2023 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 17044556)
Basketball in the Big 12 is going to be downright ridiculous. Especially if they add Gonzaga and UConn for basketball only. You could make a genuine argument the below teams are top 30 programs in the country currently. All of them with extremely passionate fan bases.

Kansas, Arizona, Baylor, Gonzaga, UConn, Houston, Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas State, West Virginia

Yea, but with a 18 or 20 team BB conference, you are only going to play each team once a year in the regular season.

So there should be plenty of great games in the conference and the conference race may be exciting, but I for one will be sad to no longer see each team play home and away.

Not sure what happens for the conference tournament.

Coach 08-05-2023 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17044598)
Yea, but with a 18 or 20 team BB conference, you are only going to play each team once a year in the regular season.

So there should be plenty of great games in the conference and the conference race may be exciting, but I for one will be sad to no longer see each team play home and away.

I think protected rivalries will be the thing going forward. For instance, they will have KSU play KU, ISU, and 2 other teams (Colorado? Oklahoma State?) home/away.

So that's 8 games there and fill in the remaining with other teams that will alternate home/away every year. Of course, this is just spitballin, but I can see an angle like this.

tredadda 08-05-2023 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 17044572)
If I had to guess Duke, Louisville and Pittsburgh may very well be three of the teams from the imploding ACC that end up in the Big 12 as well. Duke of course probably the crown jewel in terms of basketball and Louisville and Pitt pretty rich basketball tradition in their own right.

I would think Duke and UNC would be a package deal due to rivalry and I would expect the Big 10 to snag them up quickly.

ROYC75 08-05-2023 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17044583)
If the Big XII can get UNC and Duke that would be such a pipe dream.

YEP!

Pasta Little Brioni 08-05-2023 04:37 PM

Lulz...clown show

Pablo 08-05-2023 05:15 PM

Combing thru some tweets and the Alex Smith ute fanbase are some delusional ****s. These guys are like Kentucky fans of the west. But kentucky has actually won stuff, maybe iowa states little bro? Had no idea what we were in for but if it brings more trolling opportunities I'll gladly take it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Utah will now move on to the Big 12 and just run that conference ����*♂️</p>&mdash; Terrell Burgess (@TiTaniumT98) <a href="https://twitter.com/TiTaniumT98/status/1687630916347219968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just remember when you see Utah fans talking about how they’re going to walk into the Big 12 and dominate it, this is who we’re dealing with. <a href="https://t.co/B65yDe1QL6">pic.twitter.com/B65yDe1QL6</a></p>&mdash; qǝlɐɔ (@EMAWCaleb) <a href="https://twitter.com/EMAWCaleb/status/1687849040963104768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Utah?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Utah</a> fan is sick to his stomach at the thought of having to play in any of those crappy <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Big12?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Big12</a> towns. <a href="https://t.co/s4iPfL0YbV">pic.twitter.com/s4iPfL0YbV</a></p>&mdash; Message Board Geniuses (@BoardGeniuses) <a href="https://twitter.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1684942015568523264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FloridaMan88 08-05-2023 05:17 PM

ROFL

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Now that we are the top dog in the Big12 we need to lay out some ground rules:<br><br>-We aren’t happy about being here either, but we’re happy to beat the shit of you while we are<br>-BYU, Cincy, UCF, and whatever that fourth school was are second rate Big12 members who can suck it<br>-Utah…</p>&mdash; Dwight SchrUTE 🌹🌹 (@DwightSchru_UTE) <a href="https://twitter.com/DwightSchru_UTE/status/1687618853931757573?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BWillie 08-05-2023 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17044874)
ROFL

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Now that we are the top dog in the Big12 we need to lay out some ground rules:<br><br>-We aren’t happy about being here either, but we’re happy to beat the shit of you while we are<br>-BYU, Cincy, UCF, and whatever that fourth school was are second rate Big12 members who can suck it<br>-Utah…</p>&mdash; Dwight SchrUTE 🌹🌹 (@DwightSchru_UTE) <a href="https://twitter.com/DwightSchru_UTE/status/1687618853931757573?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Their fans are really the Iowa State of the old Pac 12.

Coach 08-05-2023 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallymo (Post 17044577)
Everyone should give respect to RustShack. Take a look at his posts when OU-UT announced they were leaving in 2021 (November) and USC-UCLA leaving in 2022 (also November). He has pretty much been spot-on for years when it comes to realignment. I wish I could have bet on his predictions. Nicely done, RustShack.

Hey now, what am I? Chopped liver? :p

MarkDavis'Haircut 08-05-2023 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17044596)
Football and to some extent men’s basketball is funding the non-revenue sports so these fragile softball players need to get a grip…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Several softball players who compete for schools that are leaving the Pac-12 have spoken out against the latest round of conference realignment.<br><br>They cited mental health and further distances for their families to travel for road games. <a href="https://t.co/jeURfGGqjC">pic.twitter.com/jeURfGGqjC</a></p>&mdash; Andy Wittry (@AndyWittry) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndyWittry/status/1687691457119838208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I like softball a lot. It is a great sport.

But these players need to understand reality. The schools left because the difference in media money would make the schools couldn't compete with the big boys in the long run. They didn't leave on a lark. They left for smart, financial reasons.

And I am tired of everyone citing mental health and people rolling over because of it. It is an excuse at this point. Good grief, student athletes have it easy compared to what their age group went through decades ago.

And the players can stay close to home. Transfer to a Big Sky school. Or the WCC. But then they would complain because they wouldn't receive the same benefits as at a power five school.

MarkDavis'Haircut 08-05-2023 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17044867)
Combing thru some tweets and the Alex Smith ute fanbase are some delusional ****s. These guys are like Kentucky fans of the west. But kentucky has actually won stuff, maybe iowa states little bro? Had no idea what we were in for but if it brings more trolling opportunities I'll gladly take it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Utah will now move on to the Big 12 and just run that conference ����*♂️</p>&mdash; Terrell Burgess (@TiTaniumT98) <a href="https://twitter.com/TiTaniumT98/status/1687630916347219968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just remember when you see Utah fans talking about how they’re going to walk into the Big 12 and dominate it, this is who we’re dealing with. <a href="https://t.co/B65yDe1QL6">pic.twitter.com/B65yDe1QL6</a></p>&mdash; qǝlɐɔ (@EMAWCaleb) <a href="https://twitter.com/EMAWCaleb/status/1687849040963104768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Utah?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Utah</a> fan is sick to his stomach at the thought of having to play in any of those crappy <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Big12?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Big12</a> towns. <a href="https://t.co/s4iPfL0YbV">pic.twitter.com/s4iPfL0YbV</a></p>&mdash; Message Board Geniuses (@BoardGeniuses) <a href="https://twitter.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1684942015568523264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BYU should have blocked them

BryanBusby 08-05-2023 06:04 PM

USC bolting from the PAC12 was a killer for that conference.

Big12 got some good gets.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-05-2023 07:12 PM

Why would you be shocked people don't respect or happy about joining the Big Dumpster fire?

Pablo 08-05-2023 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17045009)
Why would you be shocked people don't respect or happy about joining the Big Dumpster fire?

utah's national brand is on par with mu. They've done nothing and don't really matter to most people, so I don't know why they think they're above it?

Chief Pagan 08-05-2023 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 17044603)
I think protected rivalries will be the thing going forward. For instance, they will have KSU play KU, ISU, and 2 other teams (Colorado? Oklahoma State?) home/away.

So that's 8 games there and fill in the remaining with other teams that will alternate home/away every year. Of course, this is just spitballin, but I can see an angle like this.

If it's a 16 team conference, I suppose so. If the BB was 18 or 20, not sure I believe that ever happening, I would think you would only play once.

As a Jayhawk, I don't really care about regional rivalries. (What KSU rivalry?) I would rather have a chance to play twice against the teams in contention for the conference title that's just as likely to be Baylor or Arizona.

Oh well. Glad it was the PAC12 that disintegrated not the Big12.

Pablo 08-05-2023 07:56 PM

KU welcoming Utah into The Phog:

https://media.tenor.com/1NWTYy3XdoIA...ully-fight.gif

displacedinMN 08-05-2023 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17045051)

I am ok with this

displacedinMN 08-05-2023 07:59 PM

With all of this....it sounds like the BIG 10 has a plan in place for the future.
and the others are playing catch up.


BIG should add FSU and ND. FSU brings in money from cable systems in FLA. ND brings a name.

Remaining Pac 10 and Mountain west combine.

displacedinMN 08-05-2023 08:00 PM

Decent read

Spoiler!

MarkDavis'Haircut 08-05-2023 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17045059)
Decent read

Spoiler!

It is like nations. Nations don't have friends or alliances. They have interests.

MarkDavis'Haircut 08-05-2023 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17045024)
utah's national brand is on par with mu. They've done nothing and don't really matter to most people, so I don't know why they think they're above it?

To be fair, Utah has actually won BCS bowl games. :D

Rams Fan 08-05-2023 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 17044913)
I like softball a lot. It is a great sport.

But these players need to understand reality. The schools left because the difference in media money would make the schools couldn't compete with the big boys in the long run. They didn't leave on a lark. They left for smart, financial reasons.

And I am tired of everyone citing mental health and people rolling over because of it. It is an excuse at this point. Good grief, student athletes have it easy compared to what their age group went through decades ago.

And the players can stay close to home. Transfer to a Big Sky school. Or the WCC. But then they would complain because they wouldn't receive the same benefits as at a power five school.

I agree, but there's still substantial disadvantages with the new alignment geographically.

Let's use Oregon as an example.

For football, this re-alignment doesn't do much in terms of travel. May want to fly out Thursday night instead of Friday to have more time to adjust to time zones, but overall a non-factor.

Every other sport is at a disadvantage though. How are road trips going to work for every other sport? Do those teams just stay in the Midwest or East for 2 weeks? Or do they travel mid-week to go across the country before coming back on the weekend?

BWillie 08-05-2023 08:47 PM

I can't wait until Oregon comes into Iowa City in November and is confused about why they got beat 10 to 3 and couldn't score 55 points.

Rams Fan 08-05-2023 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17045100)
I can't wait until Oregon comes into Iowa City in November and is confused about why they got beat 10 to 3 and couldn't score 55 points.

They beat Ohio St. in Columbus in 2021.

displacedinMN 08-06-2023 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 17045106)
They beat Ohio St. in Columbus in 2021.

Not in November.

Started thinking about bowl possibilities again. It will be interesting to see what the new bowl affiliations will be after this period

I believe the big ten is in charge of bowl selection


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Stewie 08-06-2023 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 17045094)
I agree, but there's still substantial disadvantages with the new alignment geographically.

Let's use Oregon as an example.

For football, this re-alignment doesn't do much in terms of travel. May want to fly out Thursday night instead of Friday to have more time to adjust to time zones, but overall a non-factor.

Every other sport is at a disadvantage though. How are road trips going to work for every other sport? Do those teams just stay in the Midwest or East for 2 weeks? Or do they travel mid-week to go across the country before coming back on the weekend?

They don't travel by wagon. A 1 to 3 hour flight is typical on a travel day. Maybe a 4 hour flight on occasion. It's not like they're flying to Europe.

Rams Fan 08-06-2023 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 17045227)
They don't travel by wagon. A 1 to 3 hour flight is typical on a travel day. Maybe a 4 hour flight on occasion. It's not like they're flying to Europe.

For the western most teams, it’s a 5 hour flight to NYC if they were to fly into a major airport near Rutgers.

5 hours if they fly to BWI to play Maryland.

That’s OK for football or any sport that plays exclusively on weekends.

That would be absolute hell to fly in Monday night for a Tuesday basketball game, fly back Tuesday night, and fly out again Friday for a Saturday game for 3-4 hours.

Nebraska would be shortest flight for the furthest West teams and that’s still 3+ hours followed by flying into Chicago, which is just under 4 hours.

MarkDavis'Haircut 08-06-2023 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 17045094)
I agree, but there's still substantial disadvantages with the new alignment geographically.

Let's use Oregon as an example.

For football, this re-alignment doesn't do much in terms of travel. May want to fly out Thursday night instead of Friday to have more time to adjust to time zones, but overall a non-factor.

Every other sport is at a disadvantage though. How are road trips going to work for every other sport? Do those teams just stay in the Midwest or East for 2 weeks? Or do they travel mid-week to go across the country before coming back on the weekend?

I am thinking they are going to do the two-week tour method.

It is not optimal but the athletes need to understand that this was the best long term for the university and players. Like horse racing, you need money to be top tier in college athletics.

Oregon and Washington were looking at $20 per year versus $70-80 for Big Ten teams.

Rams Fan 08-06-2023 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 17045232)
I am thinking they are going to do the two-week tour method.

It is not optimal but the athletes need to understand that this was the best long term for the university and players. Like horse racing, you need money to be top tier in college athletics.

Oregon and Washington were looking at $20 per year versus $70-80 for Big Ten teams.

What would've been best long-term is if the Pac 12 had competent leadership, which is very clear they didn't and their last two commissioners ****ed up the last decade, to secure a legitimate media rights deal instead of doing nothing.

Other than that, yes, leaving for the Big 12 or B1G was the next best thing due to the financial instability of the conference.

I think we're aligned in that they'll probably do the two weeks trip when going to the Midwest or East Coast. Otherwise, you're putting your team at even more of a disadvantage for more frequent transcontinental flights.

George Liquor 08-06-2023 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17045024)
utah's national brand is on par with mu. They've done nothing and don't really matter to most people, so I don't know why they think they're above it?

Don't forget, Georgia won the national championship two years in a row so that counts for something for mizzou fans.

Pablo 08-06-2023 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bdj23 (Post 17045283)
Don't forget, Georgia won the national championship two years in a row so that counts for something for mizzou fans.

Oh yeah, I'm sure peeg wore his SEC shirt loud and proud both times.

FloridaMan88 08-06-2023 02:19 PM

This is Herm’s dumbshit friend?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Arizona State AD Ray Anderson discussing move to Big 12: &quot;I promise I&#39;m not going to Morgantown. I&#39;m going to sign that to (deputy AD) Jean Boyd. He can go to Morgantown. But send me to Texas &amp; the rivalry w/Arizona &amp; starting a new one w/BYU, Utah &amp; Colorado&quot;</p>&mdash; Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1688270639600148480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chiefspants 08-06-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17045687)
This is Herm’s dumbshit friend?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Arizona State AD Ray Anderson discussing move to Big 12: &quot;I promise I&#39;m not going to Morgantown. I&#39;m going to sign that to (deputy AD) Jean Boyd. He can go to Morgantown. But send me to Texas &amp; the rivalry w/Arizona &amp; starting a new one w/BYU, Utah &amp; Colorado&quot;</p>&mdash; Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1688270639600148480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I feel like rivalries were kind of disappearing in the Big 12 (KU-MU, OU-OSU, TX-TX A&M, CO-NE, OU-TX).

But this new crop of teams, coming in as pretentious as they are, are clearly wanting to change that.

displacedinMN 08-06-2023 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17045687)
This is Herm’s dumbshit friend?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Arizona State AD Ray Anderson discussing move to Big 12: &quot;I promise I&#39;m not going to Morgantown. I&#39;m going to sign that to (deputy AD) Jean Boyd. He can go to Morgantown. But send me to Texas &amp; the rivalry w/Arizona &amp; starting a new one w/BYU, Utah &amp; Colorado&quot;</p>&mdash; Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1688270639600148480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

How to win friends and influence people

WilliamTheIrish 08-06-2023 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17045295)
Oh yeah, I'm sure peeg wore his SEC shirt loud and proud both times.

I’m sure he’s also one of the top donors* to MUtt endowment.

*Not money though. Guy like that donates plasma. (Poor’s gonna poor.)

Al Bundy 08-06-2023 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bdj23 (Post 17045283)
Don't forget, Georgia won the national championship two years in a row so that counts for something for mizzou fans.

Now that my Alma mater UCF is in the Big 12 if another Big 12 team wins the National Championship I won't be celebrating it.

BryanBusby 08-06-2023 05:13 PM

Lot of rocks being thrown by the axis that has to claim reerun and pete.

Mr. Plow 08-06-2023 05:24 PM

Can't imbed on mobile. Pac-4.

https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status...2dVJOUKmQ&s=19

KC_Lee 08-06-2023 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 17045796)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whoever created this had a lot of fun: 😂<a href="https://t.co/8Io0YGt0cA">https://t.co/8Io0YGt0cA</a><br><br>&quot;Some NCAA teams are right here in the Pac-4.&quot;</p>&mdash; RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1688210616589148160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pasta Little Brioni 08-06-2023 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 17045695)
I’m sure he’s also one of the top donors* to MUtt endowment.

*Not money though. Guy like that donates plasma. (Poor’s gonna poor.)

Poor ass hurt little fellar ROFL don't get Pastad again

Pablo 08-06-2023 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 17045784)
Lot of rocks being thrown by the axis that has to claim reerun and pete.

hey now, pete is all yours. reerun, sure, but you don't get to throw pete into the mix.

Chief Pagan 08-06-2023 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 17045802)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whoever created this had a lot of fun: ��<a href="https://t.co/8Io0YGt0cA">https://t.co/8Io0YGt0cA</a><br><br>&quot;Some NCAA teams are right here in the Pac-4.&quot;</p>&mdash; RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1688210616589148160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They got a point with the easy travel schedule.

Yes, USC and UCLA have more money, but you do have to wonder if the future non football and non basketball athletes might consider schools with easier travel.

notorious 08-06-2023 06:53 PM

This really sucks for the teams left behind. You guys can give each other as much shit as shit as you want, but this is not a good thing.

GloucesterChief 08-06-2023 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17045848)
This really sucks for the teams left behind. You guys can give each other as much shit as shit as you want, but this is not a good thing.

Give 5-10 years as cable tv continues to collapse and a lot of people in this thread crowing right now are gonna find their teams on the outside looking in.

Chiefspants 08-06-2023 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 17045852)
Give 5-10 years as cable tv continues to collapse and a lot of people in this thread crowing right now are gonna find their teams on the outside looking in.

It's really tough to know what the future holds here. With streaming being revealed as a complete profit sink for virtually every company it's going to be interesting to see where the market goes next. The fact that the Pac 12 owner was trying to sell potential profits on the Apple deal if 5 MILLION people signed up (NFL Sunday Ticket has 2.4 million subscribers total) it quickly reveals how streaming has a profit problem for large corps compared to traditional models.

BWillie 08-06-2023 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 17045755)
Now that my Alma mater UCF is in the Big 12 if another Big 12 team wins the National Championship I won't be celebrating it.

The Florida Tech Citronauts

FloridaMan88 08-06-2023 08:56 PM

San Diego State has that massive exit fee from the Mountain West and Oregon State adds minimal value.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hearing Oregon State and San Diego State have had very preliminary talks with the Big 12 over the last 48 hours. Key word is preliminary and it would be at discounted rates.</p>&mdash; Jason Scheer (@jasonscheer) <a href="https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/status/1688364287008575488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BWillie 08-06-2023 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17045947)
San Diego State has that massive exit fee from the Mountain West and Oregon State adds minimal value.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hearing Oregon State and San Diego State have had very preliminary talks with the Big 12 over the last 48 hours. Key word is preliminary and it would be at discounted rates.</p>&mdash; Jason Scheer (@jasonscheer) <a href="https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/status/1688364287008575488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dont do it. Focus on ACC schools

Chief Pagan 08-06-2023 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 17045852)
Give 5-10 years as cable tv continues to collapse and a lot of people in this thread crowing right now are gonna find their teams on the outside looking in.

The only crowing I'm doing is saying I'm glad that it's the PAC12 falling apart not the Big12.

No, I'm not thrilled.

I'd rather go back to the original Big12, but that ain't happening.

Ocotillo 08-06-2023 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17045962)
The only crowing I'm doing is saying I'm glad that it's the PAC12 falling apart not the Big12.

No, I'm not thrilled.

I'd rather go back to the original Big12, but that ain't happening.

Here's another reason why climate change is bullshit.

Academia, the loudest voices about climate change, have sanctioned these idiotic super conferences where Olympic sports and women's soccer are going to travel four to five time zones in a jet airplane all for the almighty dollar.

What's their carbon footprint going to be?

Universities have no room to stand upon critiquing the actions of an oil company. They're no different.

Chiefspants 08-06-2023 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17045966)
Here's another reason why climate change is bullshit.

Academia, the loudest voices about climate change, have sanctioned these idiotic super conferences where Olympic sports and women's soccer are going to travel four to five time zones in a jet airplane all for the almighty dollar.

What's their carbon footprint going to be?

Universities have no room to stand upon critiquing the actions of an oil company. They're no different.

It's all about the dollar.

KingPriest2 08-06-2023 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17045950)
Dont do it. Focus on ACC schools

I think the ACC disbanding is a ways off

But I do see your poing. 1 reason get some more east coast teans for Cincy WV and UCF.

But it looks like the Zags will be joining sometime for basketball

SDSU would be a good addition.

But how big is too big?

BryanBusby 08-06-2023 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17045834)
hey now, pete is all yours. reerun, sure, but you don't get to throw pete into the mix.

Lives in Olathe. He's your problem!

WhawhaWhat 08-07-2023 06:54 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Using overall record winning % of teams in the 2022-23 season -- this is what a potential Big 12 Tournament week could look like in Kansas City come 2024. This is the men&#39;s records -- it would be 2 consecutive weeks with the Women&#39;s Tournament. <a href="https://t.co/LCKNbAJ3Eh">pic.twitter.com/LCKNbAJ3Eh</a></p>&mdash; Harold R. Kuntz (@HaroldRKuntz3) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaroldRKuntz3/status/1688411740097179648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

displacedinMN 08-07-2023 07:00 AM

The big 8 has to be one of the most changed conferences ever. (not being mean)

Then I think of the the Missouri Valley conference.

lawrenceRaider 08-07-2023 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17046069)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Using overall record winning % of teams in the 2022-23 season -- this is what a potential Big 12 Tournament week could look like in Kansas City come 2024. This is the men&#39;s records -- it would be 2 consecutive weeks with the Women&#39;s Tournament. <a href="https://t.co/LCKNbAJ3Eh">pic.twitter.com/LCKNbAJ3Eh</a></p>&mdash; Harold R. Kuntz (@HaroldRKuntz3) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaroldRKuntz3/status/1688411740097179648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like a great tourney.

WhawhaWhat 08-07-2023 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 17046077)
Looks like a great tourney.

It looks like a lot of fun. Even that first round has some big name teams with histories of being competitive. Potential is there for the Big 12 to have a basketball tournament on the level of the old Big East.

Bearcat 08-07-2023 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17045848)
This really sucks for the teams left behind. You guys can give each other as much shit as shit as you want, but this is not a good thing.

It's usually not when money/greed is put ahead of everything else.

KingPriest2 08-07-2023 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17046085)
It's usually not when money/greed is put ahead of everything else.

Not sure how you can say that This is the first time that a P5 school goes down to a G5

I seriously doubt the Mountain West becomes a p5 and if they do. The money won’t be the same

tredadda 08-07-2023 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2 (Post 17046117)
Not sure how you can say that This is the first time that a P5 school goes down to a G5

I seriously doubt the Mountain West becomes a p5 and if they do. The money won’t be the same

Perhaps the MWC could add them and hope to leverage the NCAA to make them a P5 conference.

lawrenceRaider 08-07-2023 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17046083)
It looks like a lot of fun. Even that first round has some big name teams with histories of being competitive. Potential is there for the Big 12 to have a basketball tournament on the level of the old Big East.

College basketball has been undervalued for quite a while now. I think we'll see the money balance out over the next decade or so.

MarkDavis'Haircut 08-07-2023 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17045966)
Here's another reason why climate change is bullshit.

Academia, the loudest voices about climate change, have sanctioned these idiotic super conferences where Olympic sports and women's soccer are going to travel four to five time zones in a jet airplane all for the almighty dollar.

What's their carbon footprint going to be?

Universities have no room to stand upon critiquing the actions of an oil company. They're no different.

You shouldn't be downvoted.

Every hippie has their price.

notorious 08-07-2023 09:03 AM

College sports used to be a regional thing.


Throw that out the window and spin out on it.

Eleazar 08-07-2023 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17045962)
The only crowing I'm doing is saying I'm glad that it's the PAC12 falling apart not the Big12.

No, I'm not thrilled.

I'd rather go back to the original Big12, but that ain't happening.

There's no question all of this is bad, on balance, for the whole nation in terms of college football.

The Big Ten and the SEC are better off, but everyone else is worse. PAC 12 will either collapse or become a mid major type conference. The Big 12 took in some refugees who didn't have options from bigger conferences, but the Big 12 is not better off than before realignment began.

Nobody is winning here except the handful of elite schools in the 2 power conferences. It's not better for 90% of D1, it's definitely not better for fans, not better for the sport in general.

Of course, the people whose pockets are lined by all of this are the ones calling for the votes.

Bearcat 08-07-2023 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 17046180)
You shouldn't be downvoted.

Every hippie has their price.

I guess you all could create a cesspool thread titled "How College Conference Realignment Triggers My Delicate Political Sensibilities". :shrug:

KingPriest2 08-07-2023 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17046219)
College sports used to be a regional thing.


Throw that out the window and spin out on it.

True

I was rereading on the College Football Association, Ncaa doing the tv co tracts.

The NCAA threatened any team or conference that worked with the CFA with penalties. This led to the Supreme Court decision in 1984 allowing teams and conferences to negotiate on their own behalf

This started the dominoes to fall and where we are today

ChiTown 08-07-2023 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2 (Post 17046263)
True

I was rereading on the College Football Association, Ncaa doing the tv contracts.

The NCAA threatened any team or conference that worked with the CFA with penalties. This led to the Supreme Court decision in 1984 allowing teams and conferences to negotiate on their own behalf

This started the dominoes to fall and where we are today

Yeah kinda, but the reality is that TV/Streaming money is what really created the tidal wave. And then, greed took over.

KingPriest2 08-07-2023 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 17046271)
Yeah kinda, but the reality is that TV/Streaming money is what really created the tidal wave. And then, greed took over.

Streaming is new. Only been around for a year or two

But if you’re talking about tv money that started because of the CFA and the Supreme Court decision.

It wasn’t around in the 90s and 2010

Yiu can say the greed started back thrn. Planting the seeds

The PAC 12 network wasn’t streaming
The ACC network wasn’t streaming
The Longhorn network wasn’t streaming
The Big 10 10 network wasn’t streaming

The SEC ACC B10 12 are not streaming tv contracts

FloridaMan88 08-07-2023 09:59 AM

Interesting from Peter King’s column today:

Link: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...mia-peter-king

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I think it’s been enlightening to ask coaches and execs, anonymously, in several camps what concerns them most on the football landscape. The two most common answers: college football and gambling.

My big question about the college football crisis is: When did the NCAA just abdicate all responsibility about the future of college football and hand it to TV networks?

One club executive told me that’s the big problem. “It’s the wild west in college football now,” he said. “The NCAA has disappeared as a governing body. We used to have important conversations with them about rules and stuff that’s really important to the future of the game. Not now.”


KingPriest2 08-07-2023 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17046332)
Interesting from Peter King’s column today:

Link: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...mia-peter-king

1977. College Fotbsll association
1964. US Supreme Court Decuduon

NCAa. Didn’t give it up. They lost.

Rhett threatened penalties to anyone that neg for themselves


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