ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs Dorsey gone?

OBJ and Mayfield's personalities will be interesting for sure. I think the question will be, will OBJ have the patience with BM when BM misses him being open on multiple occasions because BM is still learning?

I don't think there's anything that says Mayfield's personality is a problem. I've watched him own up to mistakes frankly and candidly in post-game interviews.

I don't think there's anything there that says he doesn't hold himself accountable.

mcaj22

03-23-2019 02:18 PM

Why does Dorsey get all the credit and Sashi gets virtually none? Yea Dorsey did all the talent evaluation but without Sashi to tear it all down there is no Denzel Ward, Nick Chubb or 90 million in cap space in Cleveland. Dorsey walked into a perfect situation because of Sashi.

Sashi did some innovative things in that rebuild that I dont see too many other GMs doing. (Taking on salary for picks like in the NBA) You would think that tactic would be used more, especially with teams sitting on a ton of cap space.

Granted Sashi never got to actually evaluate talent and use the assets he acquired so we will never know what he would have picked, he did make all the right moves to get Dorsey there. I don't think Dorsey gets Denzel Ward and Nick Chubb on his own asset maneuvering.

Chris Meck

03-23-2019 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 14176045)

Well, I don't know, man. 2 years isn't enough time to properly evaluate a GM I don't think, but then Cleveland has long been a shit place to work with no direction or patience.

But in those two years, the team made no real strides.

so far, Dorsey has averaged plus 7 wins in both of his first seasons as GM.

He has his faults no doubt. But quick turnarounds are kind of his thing at this point.

Buehler445

03-23-2019 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 14175952)

Rooting for Baker would be like taking it in ass from 3 donkey fans.

I’ll root for that cock holster the day he breaks his knee.

I'm not as close to the situation as you are.

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14175964)

that's fine, but why?

His teammates have always loved him. He works as hard or harder than anyone. He literally walked on at Texas Tech and earned his way every step. I guess I don't get the whole 'he's such a douchebag' argument. He just says, " **** you, hold my beer" and then goes and balls out.

I don't get it. He's not like Cam Newton cocky. He's not a serial rapist like Big Ben. He's not 'entitled'; he's literally the embodiment of the underdog that succeeds in spite of nobody wanting him.

Because he says what's on his mind, and then he goes out and does it? Is it just Mizzou fans that will forever hate OU or something?

I just don't get it. Like I said, I wouldn't trade Mahomes for anything or anyone, but if we DIDN'T get Mahomes, I'd want Mayfield. And I bet if we were in that parallel universe, you'd all be fans too.

*of course, I think the Youtube video where he was drunk and tried to run from the cops in college was hilarious. Like, come on, you never did that? That shit's funny. and I don't think that's a character flag, it's called being 20 years in college.

He a KU fan living close to Norman.

SAUTO

03-23-2019 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14176020)

so to summarize and clear up-

A bunch of CP guys have all decided that Baker Mayfield is a douchebag but are unable to articulate why.

'ite. Fair enough.

The reasons someone would think he's a douche are pretty well documented.

Chris Meck

03-23-2019 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14176121)

The reasons someone would think he's a douche are pretty well documented.

KU fans? MU fans?

I guess my bar for being a douche is different than others.

does he point the finger at teammates when he screws up? No.

does he own his mistakes? yes.

Does he act entitled? No. He's earned every break.

Is he a lockerroom problem? No, his teammates love him.

Is it the underage drinking thing? Because that's dumb. Who didn't do that? And the face plant when he tried to run from the cops is hilarious.

I just don't get it.

I just see a kid who's used to being disregarded putting his middle finger in the air and saying, " Watch me mother****er".

I like that attitude. Especially when time after time, he does succeed.

Baby Lee

03-23-2019 03:51 PM

I'm all for an ascendent Browns team.
I couldn't care less about 'stolen thunder'
Make your own thunder or respect the thunder of others.
It's sports. Competition is its lifeblood.
Foregone conclusions are boring
Untested mettle is worthless.
Give me Ali/Foreman over Tyson smashing a bunch of tomato cans any day.
Mahomes has established his potential. Now Reid and Veach have to establish they can build a championship team, and I want to see them face real stakes against real competition.
Actual personalities in the opposition only enhances the saga.

Sassy Squatch

03-23-2019 04:04 PM

Yeah, man. Why do people think Mayfield is a douche?

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JakeF

03-23-2019 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 14176045)

Why does Dorsey get all the credit and Sashi gets virtually none?

What are you talking about? People are doing their best to credit Veach and Reid for everything good, and blame Dorsey for anything bad.

staylor26

03-23-2019 04:13 PM

Mayfield takes what the media to heart and always feels the need to respond to anything negative said about him.

He’s not just a douche. He doesn’t know how to handle critics.

Chris Meck

03-23-2019 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14176163)

Yeah, man. Why do people think Mayfield is a douche?

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eh. That shit is way overblown if that's what you've got.

One person's douche is another person's fiery competitor I guess.

It's not like he threw a flag into the stands and ran off the field or anything. Or jumped into the stands to start a fight with a fan.

He acts like a linebacker. if that's a number 50 on his chest, do you give a shit?

Chris Meck

03-23-2019 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14176174)

Mayfield takes what the media to heart and always feels the need to respond to anything negative said about him.

He’s not just a douche. He doesn’t know how to handle critics.

Oh I think it drives him. He should probably learn to curtail his reactions a bit. But kind of like Brady can still name every QB taken in front of him, I think Mayfield uses the criticism to feed the fire.

milkman

03-23-2019 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14176163)

Yeah, man. Why do people think Mayfield is a douche?

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These really mean nothing without context.

Titty Meat

03-23-2019 05:30 PM

People think Mayfield is a douche because he has a personality and isnt a robot when he talks to the media.

Few years back the winless KU football team wouldnt shake his hand before the game so he disrespected them throughout the game. I dont know if you've ever been in a KU thread on here but the truly are a sensitive bunch.

kcxiv

03-23-2019 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14176163)

Yeah, man. Why do people think Mayfield is a douche?

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that doesnt make anyone a douche wtf. lol

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