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Chiefs on verge of a deal with Andy Reid (merged) (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=268357)

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Originally Posted by Icon (Post 9270822)

If we bring in Reid I hope we get a quality GM who is better at evaluating college talent and calls the shots. Reports are that Reid's selections weren't very good.

They were not. Jim Johnson's passing had a lot to do with the fall of Andy Reid's regime, but a huge part of it was poor drafting. Especially defense.

Taking Brandon Graham over JPP and Earl Thomas was the one that irked people most. It was not hindsight either. Everyone on Eagles forums wanted one of those two or Pouncey. When Graham was selected at the time everyone was so pissed. Turned out the fans were right.

The Eagles took two 2nd round safeties in 2010 and 2011. One was already cut(Jaiquawn Jarrett) and one is probably going to be cut(Nate Allen). Then you go back and look at awful defensive selections like Victor Abiamiri, Jerome McDougle, Matt McCoy, etc. They've had some poor offensive picks too, but they have gotten a lot better. DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, LeSean McCoy were all nice picks.

It looks like after a huge drought of defensive picks the Eagles finally rebounded with Fletcher Cox and Mychal Kendricks.

But the Eagles were not the greatest drafting team under Reid. Especially defense. So many wasted picks, it killed the team.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9270863)

How can you make that assumption about what QB Reid would favor, or that he understands the importance of the QB?

You don't think Andy Reid understands the importance of the QB?

I'm skeptical of all the available QBs coming out, but at the same time I know we need to roll the dice on one in our first few picks.

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9270858)

I've said the same thing, but many here seem to believe he IS RG3.

NOBODY here thinks he's RG3. NOBODY.

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9270868)

If Andy Reid is the coach, I'll trust whatever QB evaluations he has.

I agree with this.

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9270852)

It is going be harder and harder each year to find a "protypical" QB you are looking for. College coaches have found success using the spread option and with mobil QBs to run it. The future of the NFL is shifting to what college is producing for them to take. The NFL has to adjust like it is trying to do. Get ahead of the curb if you can while you can. I think we are looking at a new era ahead of us for the future of QB play in the NFL and it starts with what college teams are doing. Spread option QBs are going be a novilty item imo.

I don't think the mobile QB is or ever will be a viable option unless the guy knows how to read defenses and throw the ball. Geno could be a nice balance because he's more mobile than the average QB. But the fact is that Andy Reid's defense for years are not well suited for a pocket QB because his o-lines have been pretty bad in a lot of years he's coached.

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9270860)

Prepare for the lynch mob to come out in full force.

No matter how shitty he played at times, there's always an excuse for it.

Yeah, welll, **** 'em.

There's a big difference between passing on and/or not making an easy move for a Franchise QB, and FORCING a guy into that position, just because.

Smith at #1 overall feels like a MASSIVE reach on January 3rd, 2013.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9270828)

Dude why are you acting like such an ass.

I'll just copy frank here.

Players look for money, coaches look for fit.
And who gives a **** about Manning?
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Peyton Manning

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9270868)

If Andy Reid is the coach, I'll trust whatever QB evaluations he has.

This.

We've come full circle. Guys who called anyone who wasn't enamored with Sanchez and Clausen "scared of drafting a QB" now don't see Geno Smith as a legit prospect.

Tyler Wilson will have a better NFL career than Geno Smith and Matt Barkley.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9270870)

ROFL

Why is that funny?

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9270855)

I don't give a ****.

The guy isn't Newton or RGIII and he's definitely not Luck. He's not even Andy Dalton.

Do you really think Cam Newton was a better passer coming out than Geno?

The dude had ONE season in college.

Geno is a fantastic prospect.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9270882)

So who you taking then?

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9270882)

This sounds word for word what I was saying about Sanchez in 2009.