Wut?

Exactly. If UW and UO and UA leave then I can’t see how ASU and Utah (not a traditional PAC-12 power) save the conference. Outside of SDSU, who could that conference even add?

3 little dots on the top right of tweets... embed... copy code.

:)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: Arizona State president Michael Crow believes the corpse of the Pac-12 is “cooking up something special” and wants to wait and see how it plays out.</p>&mdash; RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1687505325648224273?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is KU still Mountain West bound????

Must feel like that his university will get an invite if things don't work out. Or publicly trying to say the right things while planning on an exit. If the PAC loses the Seattle, Portland, Denver, and a portion of the Phoenix market after losing LA, there is zero chance they get any sort of significant deal. What markets would they even still control? SF? SLC (although that's probably as much BYU as Utah)?

This guy is just as bad as George

Isn't that the guy people kept posting here as if he had facts?

Yeah. And the Tom Adelmore guy

Golden one right here.

Big West

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SEC poaches Texas A&amp;M from Big 12<br>B1G poaches Nebraska from Big 12<br>SEC poaches Mizzou from Big 12<br>PAC poaches Colorado from Big 12<br>SEC poaches Texas &amp; OU from Big 12<br>B1G poaches USC &amp; UCLA from PAC<br><br>Media: WHY IS THE BIG 12 TRYING TO DESTROY COLLEGE FOOTBALL?!?!?!</p>&mdash; Iowa Everyjer (@clonesjer) <a href="https://twitter.com/clonesjer/status/1687299159102013441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Utes?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Utes</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SunDevils?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SunDevils</a> will only get partial shares, if they even get a <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Big12?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Big12</a> offer at all and that&#39;s being decided in a meeting right now. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StayTuned?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StayTuned</a> <a href="https://t.co/fzzRVOZ7rU">pic.twitter.com/fzzRVOZ7rU</a></p>&mdash; THE SWAIM SHOW (@GSwaim) <a href="https://twitter.com/GSwaim/status/1687538054334971928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hahahahhahaha

Also in here, Utah and Arizona State have "ramped up" talks with the Big 12.


https://twitter.com/petethamel/statu...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w


If this is the case. The one tweet I posted about Crow is wrong. That guy is usually on out

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Utes?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Utes</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SunDevils?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SunDevils</a> will only get partial shares, if they even get a <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Big12?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Big12</a> offer at all and that&#39;s being decided in a meeting right now. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StayTuned?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StayTuned</a> <a href="https://t.co/fzzRVOZ7rU">pic.twitter.com/fzzRVOZ7rU</a></p>&mdash; THE SWAIM SHOW (@GSwaim) <a href="https://twitter.com/GSwaim/status/1687538054334971928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I've seen this posted several times about Tallahassee being in the Middle East, but I have no idea what it's about.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Imagine checking Twitter for the first time at noon today.<br><br>“Yeah, the Pac-12 came back to life and then died again. It was a whole thing.<br><br>Oh, and Tallahassee is in the Middle East.” <a href="https://t.co/u9J21c2Li8">pic.twitter.com/u9J21c2Li8</a></p>&mdash; RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1687498375367700482?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Big 10 is bigger than the AFC now so here's to divisions and playoffs!

Apple pulled its offer to the Pac 12.

https://twitter.com/insidethebig12/s...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

More than 30% of the Pac-12’s media rights value went out the door with USC and UCLA. Oregon, Washington and Colorado must be more than 30% of whatever value was subsequently left.

What would Apple even offer at this point? A cameo in the next season of Ted Lasso?

https://twitter.com/chriskarpman/sta...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Arizona State’s President, Michael Crow seems like an incompetent pompous jackass.

Things can change, but the plan is for there to be an official announcement from Arizona tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/stat...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

If there was a button that would reset things back to the 80's, I would hit it (even though Husker fan would be annoying again)....

-Bowl games that mattered
-Southwest Conference with A&M, Arkansas and Texas
-Football in the Big East
-The wishbone
-Being able to name the top handful of fullbacks
-Athletes being paid in the form of black TransAms and envelopes with cash
-Keith Jackson

With that said, I'm thankful that the B12 pulled through this, and I'm grateful that Yormark is the B12 commissioner.

He has bad blood with Iowa state because he didn’t get a promotion he wanted and left. Has hated Iowa State and the Big12 ever since.

Seriously doubt that. Otherwise he wouldn’t be going back and do speaking engagements

https://www.inside.iastate.edu/article/2021/04/01/crow


A 1977 Iowa State graduate, Crow earned bachelor degrees in political science and environmental studies. At Iowa State, he was the director of the former office of science policy and research (1985-91), director of the former Institute for Physical Research and Technology (1988-91) and assistant director for planning and program development at Ames Laboratory (1985-88). He left Ames to serve as executive vice provost at Columbia University, New York City (1991-2002), before becoming Arizona State's 16th president in 2002.

Utah is expected to be accepted into the Big 12 as soon as tonight. Announcement could come within next 48 hours.

https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/stat...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Is Arizona State a required package deal to add Arizona and Utah?

If not then it seems like UConn would be a better addition than them.

UConn brings a Northeast presence with a national brand in men’s/women’s basketball.

Arizona State brings… Michael Crow.

I’m hearing no. They want it but it’s not require.

I am not sure what metrics the Big 12 would look at as a comparison, but to me UConn adds way more value than Arizona State.

Arizona State barely adds the Phoenix market since Arizona is the flagship school in the state. Also Phoenix has a transient population and is not a college sports city.

I think if that comes down to that, I think they'll just add Arizona and re-evaluate at a later date.

Crow is not worth the trouble of bringing on. That's why I made this post below.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...ostcount=10489

UConn would be a bigger market and a basketball school

ASU. Yeah I know it’s a bigger football school. Not basketball. But smaller market. What’s the value?

I did hear a rumor. Haven’t seen a “legit” rumkt where the B12 might go 18 schools snd addd Oregon Stare and Wash Stare

Ha!

They had to follow BYU.

Too bad, BYU didn't block them.

Sources: Both Utah and Arizona State have applied for formal membership to the Big 12 Conference, and there’s a call tonight with the Big 12's presidents and chancellors to discuss their membership. Arizona applied and was approved yesterday.

https://twitter.com/petethamel/statu...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

I was hoping for Florida State over either ASU or Utah :harumph:

Its a traditional football power on the east coast. And not much reason to double down on both Arizona and Utah when while having 2 schools in Florida actually make sense (while not having the major players, the B12 would have a heavy presence in both Texas and Florida)

Please dear god no

I'm sure BYU tried.

From everything I've seen Utah wants absolutely nothing to do with BYU and why they don't want to be in the B12.

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New FSU 2024 uniforms just dropped. <a href="https://t.co/TlFMt0XYC5">https://t.co/TlFMt0XYC5</a> <a href="https://t.co/CzZJxS9fkb">pic.twitter.com/CzZJxS9fkb</a></p>&mdash; Austin Pendergist (@apthirteen) <a href="https://twitter.com/apthirteen/status/1687479324947910656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Florida Stare would never go to the B12

Big 12 won't add Oregon State and Washington State. They bring 0 value.

If they want out of the ACC, then why not?

Oregon president John Karl Scholz: "A few minutes ago, we were provided an invitation to join the Big Ten Conference. .. I urge us to accept that opportunity."

https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

They want more money then what the B12 can offer. If they’re not happy with the ACC they won’t be happy in the B12

There are sone rumblings they might go independent

A great podcast to listen to about everything

365 sports. They have most of the reporters on

https://www.youtube.com/live/PV2IHaxPwHQ?feature=share

So the PAC-12 is basically dead then yeah? I know everyone thought the big 12 was gonna die 12 years ago but…

ASU coming to the Big XII means we were THIS close to having Herm back in our lives. Oh what could have been.

Herm was fired last year.

Oregon president John Karl Scholz re: Big Ten's terms: "We are being granted partial shares ... during the first parts of this deal." Says they believe shares are "more generous" than what was available via Pac-12. Oregon will be full share members in next B1G media deals.

https://twitter.com/jamescrepea/stat...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Notre Dame’s current TV deal with NBC pays them $26 million/year… less than the Big 12’s annual media rights payout per school.

Florida State as an independent would struggle to get anything close to that # since they have much less brand equity than Notre Dame football.

https://media.tenor.com/JpCYn3f1MZcA...er-wake-up.gif

University of Oregon board of trustees votes unanimously to approve the move to the Big Ten.

https://twitter.com/jamescrepea/stat...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Sources: Oregon and Washington have been officially voted into the Big Ten by the league’s presidents. Announcement coming soon

https://twitter.com/petethamel/statu...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Arizona, Arizona State &amp; 2-time defending Pac-12 champion Utah joining Big 12 in 2024 pending Big 12 formal approval in next 24 hours, sources told <a href="https://twitter.com/ActionNetworkHQ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ActionNetworkHQ</a>. Big 12 will be 3rd league w/at least 16 schools, while Pac-12 down to 4 schools<a href="https://t.co/ElL3jh2HLg">https://t.co/ElL3jh2HLg</a></p>&mdash; Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1687584468716892160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Arizona has already applied and was approved on last night

Yes. This one is more aligned towards ASU and Utah. The Big 12 wants to bring all 3 together as one, so that way none of the 3 can be the "suspect" that ended the Pac.

Yes, that's why I said it was so close to happening, rather than it is happening.

Yeah Jason Scheer said it on 365 sports that they want it announced together.

But Oregon and Wash leaving was the death blow. Not these 3

Agreed. It's still what the Big 12 wants anyways because of so many bullshit false narratives out there these days.

Media is pissed at Big 12 for destroying Pac, even though very compelling evidence shows otherwise (B1G started by poaching USC and UCLA).

Media was always rooting for Big 12 to die, twice, but now is pissed at us for fighting back?

They ****ed the wrong mother****er.

Media can suck my dick.

Long Live Big 12.

As we’ve tweeted, plan is to officially roll this out tomorrow. ASU President Michael Crow was a bit of a hurdle but it was never going to derail this.

Full coverage coming soon.

https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/stat...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Totally agree

And the Alkiwnce? Lol. What a joke

The new Big12 seems like a good BBall conference.


But WV at ASU will not be a fun game for football to watch-at 11pm Eastern.

Yormark has already said he's looking at breaking out the basketball contract. I'm guessing he'll target Uconn and Gonzaga for hoops, but as far as football value, I don't think Uconn brings much.

Plus, taking ASU was probably a negotiation point with Arizona and possibly Utah/CU.

Lots of questions about this in the future

There's the question of whether the 12-team CFP will still reserve *six* spots for conference champions in 2024.

Exec Director Bill Hancock told me, "It’s too soon to say. The CFP Management Committee and the Board will discuss the future format when it becomes appropriate."

https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RIP <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pac12?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pac12</a> �� <br><br>Introducing…the Pac-4! <a href="https://t.co/hhW8rBz5tr">pic.twitter.com/hhW8rBz5tr</a></p>&mdash; Scot Hampton (@shamptonian) <a href="https://twitter.com/shamptonian/status/1687591812444368898?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I think for UConn and Gonzaga, they'll open a separate contract for CMBB, and not tied to the Football Media deal.

True but ASU football vs anyone, anytime of the day usually is not a compelling game to watch.

Other than when they had Jake Plummer, I can’t recall when ASU football was nationally relevant.

[QUOTE=kcclone;17043626]Yormark has already said he's looking at breaking out the basketball contract. I'm guessing he'll target Uconn and Gonzaga for hoops, but as far as football value, I don't think Uconn brings much.

Plus, taking ASU was probably a negotiation point with Arizona and possibly Utah/CU.[/


The tv media deal covers both football and basketball

Arizona is in the Mountain Time Zone, so night games could start earlier like games at Colorado probably will, but your point stands.

It’s 7 pm in WV and 4 pm in Az right now. But come the first weeend on Nov WV falls back

The goal is to announce as three tomorrow at 10 AM.


https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/stat...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Big 12 gonna be alright after all...

For now.

No gay ass SEC SEC SEC type chants either.

ASU, Arizona and Utah are likely to announce Big-12 move tomorrow morning, which would take the conference to 16 teams.

Still trying to confirm if it’ll be as immediate full share members but that appears likely.

https://twitter.com/chriskarpman/sta...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Just saw this a few minutes ago

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ASU, Arizona and Utah are likely to announce Big-12 move tomorrow morning, which would take the conference to 16 teams. <br><br>Still trying to confirm if it’ll be as immediate full share members but that appears likely. <a href="https://t.co/89Q3gOjEyH">https://t.co/89Q3gOjEyH</a></p>&mdash; Chris Karpman (@ChrisKarpman) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisKarpman/status/1687600850636812288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I posted those up above

Current Bay Area sports scene…

Lost the Raiders.

Lost the A’s.

Stanford and Cal appear to be left out of a power conference.

And the Pac 12’s headquarters is (was) in San Francisco.

https://media.tenor.com/qAFZ_6WxiJ4A...y-seinfeld.gif

Honestly it was USC/UCLA that ended the PAC 12. Once they chose to leave the writing was on the wall and only a matter of time.

Pac 12 die mother ****er!

Thats what happens if ur residents don't give a shit about sports

In due time, the B1G and SEC will whack the ACC and most likely Big 12 will absorb the scraps that have value. And like clockwork, the media will blame the Big 12 again.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/3owyo...giphy.gif&ct=g

West Coast folks don't give a shit about sports. They're too busy drinking soy frappe dappes and dodging human shit in the street on their way to work at a sea lion wildfire relief non-profit.