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chiefzilla1501 07-15-2014 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10748545)
Even without Klay the Warriors are offering a better package than the Cavs. David Lee is better than anyone the Cavs can offer other than Wiggins.

Overall salary: Cavs = $9.5M, Warriors $18M
Advantage Cavs

# of players over 30: Cavs = 0, Warriors = 1
# of players 22 or under: Cavs = 2, Warriors = 1
Advantage Cavs

If you're the Timberwolves and getting rid of Love, why in the world would you want to replace him with a $15M Center who's 31? And why would the attractive trade bait be your 31 year old while the 22 year old you're offering is the definition of meh? I don't think the Cavs' trade bait is that great. Don't get me wrong. But the Warriors' trade package based on what the TWolves need right now is complete garbage. I would bank on Bennett's upside over Barnes' probable career of 'meh', and Waiters' youth and low salary over Lee.

-King- 07-15-2014 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 10748566)
I don't know. David Lee is really just a throw in.

David Lee vs. Anthony Bennett
David Lee vs. Dion Waiters

-King- 07-15-2014 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10748577)
Overall salary: Cavs = $9.5M, Warriors $18M
Advantage Cavs

# of players over 30: Cavs = 0, Warriors = 1
# of players 22 or under: Cavs = 2, Warriors = 1
Advantage Cavs

If you're the Timberwolves and getting rid of Love, why in the world would you want to replace him with a $15M Center who's 31? And why would the attractive trade bait be your 31 year old while the 22 year old you're offering is the definition of meh? I don't think the Cavs' trade bait is that great. Don't get me wrong. But the Warriors' trade package based on what the TWolves need right now is complete garbage. I would bank on Bennett's upside over Barnes' probable career of 'meh', and Waiters' youth and low salary over Lee.

:facepalm: I wasn't saying they should trade Love for Lee. Just that even just Lee is better than what Cavs could offer without Wiggins.

dirk digler 07-15-2014 07:52 PM

Dumb idea. How about make the season start on Christmas Day and be a 50 game season.

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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine RT <s>@</s>GwashburnGlobe: Adam Silver said the league is considering the idea of a midseason tournament, similar to soccer. Interesting.


KC_Connection 07-15-2014 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10748570)
Not going to read through this entire thing, so ill just mention it here.......Its curious to me that LeBron told his boys in Miami to opt out of their contracts so the Heat could sign more players......but then hes the one who ended up bolting? WTF???

The only chance the Heat had to keep him was for Wade/Bosh to opt out and for Riley rebuild the roster. McRoberts/Granger wasn't enough and LeBron left. Not sure what's so difficult to understand there.

KC_Connection 07-15-2014 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10748588)
Dumb idea. How about make the season start on Christmas Day and be a 50 game season.

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine RT @GwashburnGlobe: Adam Silver said the league is considering the idea of a midseason tournament, similar to soccer. Interesting.

I have absolutely no idea what this is supposed to mean. A midseason tournament to accomplish what?

chiefzilla1501 07-15-2014 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10748583)
:facepalm: I wasn't saying they should trade Love for Lee. Just that even just Lee is better than what Cavs could offer without Wiggins.

Who cares if Lee is better? The question is who's offering better trade comp.

Offering a 31 year old on a $15M contract with 2 years left is the last thing Minnesota should want in return. Unless the Wolves are trying to win now and it would be foolish of them to try to do that.

KC_Connection 07-15-2014 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 10748298)
Mike Miller to Cavs, 2 yr/$5.5M deal, second year is a player option.

Miller went with LeBron over the money. Cavs could use another shooter/stretch 4 now. Rashard Lewis?

-King- 07-15-2014 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10748588)
Dumb idea. How about make the season start on Christmas Day and be a 50 game season.

[URL="https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine"]

Uh....what? Why?

dirk digler 07-15-2014 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10748595)
I have absolutely no idea what this is supposed to mean. A midseason tournament to accomplish what?

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10748611)
Uh....what? Why?

I don't know either I don't follow soccer.

Edit: Here is some more info
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Silver had several exploratory ideas he gave to the group, the most shocking of which was the idea that the league might install a mid-season tournament that would be showcased in Las Vegas. Similar to soccer, the tournament would essentially be a quick tourney for NBA teams to win a trophy outside of the NBA Championship.

Discuss Thrower 07-15-2014 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10748595)
I have absolutely no idea what this is supposed to mean. A midseason tournament to accomplish what?

It would make sense if it were a world championship of basketball or something..

-King- 07-15-2014 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10748628)
I don't know either I don't follow soccer.

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Would it replace the all star game or something?

Only way i think it's a good idea is if they trim the number of regular season games down to about 70 or 60. Even then it still doesn't make sense. The winner of the tournament would be at a disadvantage the rest of the season and post season due to playing more games than the other teams.

mcaj22 07-15-2014 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10748606)
Who cares if Lee is better? The question is who's offering better trade comp.

Offering a 31 year old on a $15M contract with 2 years left is the last thing Minnesota should want in return. Unless the Wolves are trying to win now and it would be foolish of them to try to do that.

the Wolves have been rebuilding for 15 years. They are worse than the Chiefs when it comes to rebuilds of a rebuild. You'd think the Minnesota fanbase would want a competitive team for their market not having to trade their SECOND star player for more rebuild pieces.

KevB 07-15-2014 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10748638)
Would it replace the all star game or something?

Only way i think it's a good idea is if they trim the number of regular season games down to about 70 or 60. Even then it still doesn't make sense. The winner of the tournament would be at a disadvantage the rest of the season and post season due to playing more games than the other teams.

I've read the mid-season tourney idea from Bill Simmons in the past, but it was accompanied by other related ideas such as shrinking the regular season and giving the winner of the mid-season tourney a playoff spot (or something like that).

chiefzilla1501 07-15-2014 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10748645)
the Wolves have been rebuilding for 15 years. They are worse than the Chiefs when it comes to rebuilds of a rebuild. You'd think the Minnesota fanbase would want a competitive team for their market not having to trade their SECOND star player for more rebuild pieces.

If you're talking about getting blue chip trade bait, sure. But replacing Love with Lee and Barnes is going to make your team worse on an already bad team in an increasingly competitive West. If I have a choice between taking David Lee to that enormous contract or being given a bunch of young first round prospects, I'd go with prospects every single time. You can take that $10M in cap savings next year and invest in someone who can actually make your team competitive again.


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