<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NEWS: Arizona has scheduled a Board of Regents meeting for tomorrow afternoon🚨<br><br>Could the Wildcats be leaving the Pac-12? 👀<a href="https://t.co/R8qLvpASyA">https://t.co/R8qLvpASyA</a> <a href="https://t.co/QZxzT6rsyT">pic.twitter.com/QZxzT6rsyT</a></p>&mdash; On3 (@On3sports) <a href="https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1686143006770872320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This would be why.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Details on potential media deal for P12. <br>20M per school and mostly streaming. <br>Not ideal <a href="https://t.co/KPe4tBIW3R">https://t.co/KPe4tBIW3R</a></p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1686132109834960896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I mentioned this last Thursday it was scheduled

This already scheduled this from last Thursday

Yeah, that's not going to be feasible.

20M ain't gonna cut it, PAC9 is dead.

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Arizona board made an emergency meeting for tomorrow 330pm to 4pm. It had not been scheduled until today. Unless Pac12 blows Arizonas socks off tomorrow in the morning meeting the Wildcats are gone.

B1G = $80M+ per school
SEC = $70M
B12 = $31.6M
ACC = $30.6M
P12 = $20.9M estimated (down $9M from current contract)

That is the baseline payouts by conference. Big 12 distributed $44M to its schools last year. Projecting $50M+ under the new deal. Big 12 schools retain Tier 3 rights as well. WVU, as an example receives about $7M via those media and advertising rights in ADDITION to the Tier 1 and Tier 2 rights. Not sure why that is never mentioned in these payout articles.

https://www.si.com/college/oklahoma/...20the%20league

We ve known about the meeting since Thursday.

Not the Arizona Board of Regents meeting. You are thinking of the Pac12 one headed by George Kliavkoff

I believe they gave up tier 3 to espn+ with the newest deal.

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No I said specially said Az Board of Regrnts on a Thursday

Here you go BWillie

And yet, Notre Dame wants to be an independent in football

Will be interesting to see what NBC offers them when their TV deal expires after next season.

That could force them into the Big 10.

Notre Dame makes 22 million all by themselves just for football plus there cut from the ACC.

“Welcome to the Big 10”, should be NBC’s response to Notre Dame…

Link: https://frontofficesports.com/notre-...other%20sports.

I think Oregon and Washington still end up in the Big Ten. Notes Dame has always been the natural fit. And they eventually will get there not because of the money but because of the schedule. These super conferences are not going to let ND play five games against their conference. Never going to happen.

So with the Big Ten what’s interesting is what do you pair with ND when they enter. Stanford? Or do they look for something out east?

Seems I was misinformed then by Jason Sheer...some Wildcat Authority writer

That's pathetic.

Big12 coming out of realignment looking pretty damn good.

Initial reports from the Pac 12's meeting today are that an actual/tangible/CONFIRMED new media rights deal still was not presented.

Instead some sort of tentative frame work for an all streaming deal was presented, where the annual payout to member schools would be heavily dependent on the # of streaming subscribers.

Good luck trying to get enough streaming subscribers to watch the Pac 9 + mid major additions which would be needed to get anywhere close to the annual payout per school with the Big 12's media rights deal.

Time to go to the Big 12, Arizona.

All streaming? :spock:

Only the NFL knows that fans will flock to buy whatever stream they are on that day. Just ask the MLB what lack of "cable" access does to a fanbase.

Why aren't the super conferences going to schedule games with Notre Dame? Follow the money. If scheduling games with Notre Dame means more money (and it does) it is going to happen. You think the Big Ten is going to tell ND to go F themselves and pretty much hand deliver them to the SEC? Or vice versa? I can guarantee you the new look Big 12 would KILL to have some sort of arrangement with Notre Dame playing 3 or 4 Big 12 teams a year on a rotating basis.

There’s no T3 rights for the Big12 anymore(when the new contract starts). I think some ESPN+ is just tied into the T1/T2. ESPN gets more football, Fox gets more basketball.

Yeah, it's not a great option for them. People who don't have a really GOOD option, end up presenting multiple mediocre options.

Not very good for Pac 12.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A group of Big Ten presidents have begun exploratory discussions on expansion in light of Pac 12 uncertainty, industry sources tell Yahoo Sports.<br><br>Focus is on possibly adding Oregon and Washington to move to 18 members or Cal and Stanford to reach 20. <a href="https://t.co/0kJj4twFdq">https://t.co/0kJj4twFdq</a></p>&mdash; Dan Wetzel (@DanWetzel) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/1686794637086781447?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The era of the super conference and the eventual end game of one big ass conference of blue bloods is upon us….*sigh*….

Big 3 conferences... Big 10, SEC, and the eventual merger of the Big 12 and ACC (with the schools from the ACC that don't move to the SEC/Big 10).

I told you guys that Cal would be targeted.

University presidents are ivory tower driven.

The ACC is toast….FSU just came out and basically said we’re leaving and need to formulate an escape plan. I guarantee you the other 6 schools being bandied about will the same.

Posted in 2011 and now we're in year 13... LMAO

Everyone knew this would happen a long time ago, also consolidating all of the major schools in a few places makes it easier to ice out smaller schools. It also gives them power over the NCAA in doing what they want, it's probably the quickest way to playoff expansion.

I dont see how Cal and Stanford make football money comparable to Michigan or Ohio State. How would they get a fair split share

Hence why I think the ultimate outcome is one giant conference of the SEC, B10, and select ACC blue bloods and pretty much **** everyone else….

and then the TV money bubble collapses and athletic departments go bankrupt.

Yep…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FSU president Richard McCullough: “We are not satisfied w/our current situation. We love the ACC. Our goal to stay in the ACC, but to stay in ACC under current situation is hard for us to figure out how we remain competitive unless there is a major change in revenue distribution…</p>&mdash; Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1686826322809487360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hard to feel sorry for Free Shoes University when they turned down the SEC in 1992. South Carolina took their spot.

Notice that it's just only FSU that's bitching about it, but the others aren't?

All it takes to evaporate Florida State’s votes is for ESPN to tell the SEC and Big 12 that there is no pro rata after 16. ESPN has the ACC and frankly the SEC at well below market value and have them both locked up for a really long time.

Poof. Coups over.

Does FSU think the conference is just going to let them go? Is their plan to dissolve the conference and kill the media deal, because they'll have to pay that too.

FSU was the school that really pushed for a long GoR after Maryland and Rutgers bailed. Now they want someone else to wipe it off?

They can go **** themselves.

Sounds like the wheels are moving for Arizona to the Big 12.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Arizona Board of Regents has announced a meeting Thursday night. Here is the agenda: <a href="https://t.co/A98HFSIE3r">pic.twitter.com/A98HFSIE3r</a></p>&mdash; Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) <a href="https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1686902394846580737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It would be better if there were a system out there that gets the entirety of every full D1 school into a "division" of eight schools which play a seven game round robin where the outright winner faces the champ of another division in the same "conference" for a championship. Every D1 school must schedule one FCS school and one permanent FBS non-conference rival every year.

Nine game regular season schedule with probably half of each division reaching a bowl game for a tenth game if they don't win their division. Conference champs then get to participate in a potential three game playoff to determine a true CFB championship.

So we need the B1G, SEC, and Big12 to agree to a full merger. Then the three commissioners fight to the death on who’s the commissioner.

Damn the NCAA is a complete pile of shit ROFL College sports are unwatchable already, but soon....

I'm for it. If you can get rid of the NCAA then basketball becomes a much bigger money maker. The NCAA tournament is the only reason that broke dick organization even has any money.

We are going to end up with 2 major conferences, the SEC and the BIG. In the end each will have the same number of schools, adhere to the same set of rules, and will eventually schedule games against the other division.

Sixteen team playoff, 8 schools from SEC, 8 for BIG, just like the NFL. Super Bowl to determine the winner.

The SEC and ACC locking themselves into long term deals with one primary media partner is looking more and more like a strategic error considering ESPN’s dire current financial situation.

ESPN was unwilling (unable?) to pay the SEC extra for something as incremental as going from 8 to 9 conference games.

The Big 10 had the right approach going with multiple media partners and with a deal that starts immediately… the SEC entered into their deal with ESPN in 2020, but it doesn’t actually begin until 2024… so much will have changed with ESPN in those four years and not for the better.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Arizona Board of Regents calls Thursday night meeting. Source tells ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/ActionNetworkHQ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ActionNetworkHQ</a>⁩: “I find it hard to imagine the State of Arizona Board of Regents would be willing to allow one of its institutions to leave the Pac-12 while the other stays. That doesn&#39;t seem logical.” <a href="https://t.co/ppai3ea7l9">pic.twitter.com/ppai3ea7l9</a></p>&mdash; Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1686907903905501184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Arizona and Arizona State will be in the Big 12.

Have regents or state legislatures ever prevented a team from re-aligning conferences?

The new Big 12 is going to be a GAUNTLET in college basketball. Jeez.

Didnt California govt try to get involved with USC/UCLA moving?

Especially if they add UCONN and Gonzaga as bball only

Rumor had it for years that Oklahoma couldn't leave the Big 12 without taking along Okie Dokie State.

Otherwise, I haven't heard anything specific.

Well, I take that back. Houston was left out for Baylor when the Big 12 formed because the governor of Texas was a Baylor grad.

Yeah. Going to be like the AFC and the NFC.

That's one of the many false narratives consistently spread around during this era of Realignment Madness.

Big brother state university will dump little brother state university every chance they can get and no governing entity is stepping in to stop that.

One thing that does worry me is when the Big Ten and SEC absorb basically all of the power 5 for football, what does that mean for basketball? It will probably be the end of the NCAA as we know it, but I'm sure the NCAA will keep existing for the stupid NCAA Tournament which they unfairly do not distribute money to the top schools.

I unfortunately can see a world where the top 40-60 teams are in the Big Ten and SEC eventually and not part of the NCAA, and then the rest of division one will be the ONLY teams in the NCAA Tournament. The sad thing is I don't think the common fan will give a shit about the new leagues basketball. It will just be Gonzaga and Villanova and shit as the blue bloods in the basketball.

UW

FYI: UW’s Board of Regents have scheduled a “special meeting” for tonight at 9 pm. The meeting will include an executive session, though I’m told no action will be taken.

https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Sources: The Big Ten’s presidents met early Thursday morning and authorized Commissioner Tony Petitti to explore expansion and bring them back more information on Oregon and Washington as potential Big Ten members. No offers have been made,

And a deal is uncertain. There’s a political thicket with the potential additions because the moves don’t offer the current Big Ten schools any additional money. USC doesn’t have a vote, but they’ve been vocal in the past about not wanting other West Coast Big Ten teams.

Oregon and Washington would also have to come to terms with not getting a full share, which isn’t a slam dunk for them. There's potential, but significant road blocks remain.

https://twitter.com/petethamel/statu...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

few conference realignment updates:

* All eyes remain on what University of Arizona decides -- go to Big 12 or stay in Pac 12?

* There is still some belief that the nine remaining Pac 12 could decide to stay together and agree to new media deal. We'll see. If so, it could then add SDSU, maybe others and everything stops.

Big Ten hesitant about offering expansion bids to Oregon and Washington (and perhaps Cal and Stanford) unless Pac 12 further deteriorates. If P12 sticks together, B10 likely to just stay at 16 and wait.

If Big Ten does decide to expand and offer membership it will be at a cut rate for some multiyear period (maybe 50-60 percent of media rights revenue that will range between $50-65 million annually). Still equal or better than most options for Oregon, et al.

https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Sources: Tenor changed Wednesday at Arizona State in a matter of 4 hours. ASU prez was content with Pac-12/Apple deal. By 2 p.m., talk changed and a board meeting was being discussed for Thursday.

The undercurrent steering ships: Board wants Arizona and ASU to stick together.

https://twitter.com/bmarcello/status...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Matches what I’ve heard. Massive change happened in a hurry, including Crow finally coming off his Pac-12 anchor. Arizona’s leadership did a good job pushing behind the scenes and in a public narrative through reporting.

https://twitter.com/chriskarpman/sta...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Translation: the BOR told Crow they would overide him if he got in the way so he got onboard.

https://twitter.com/running_ryan/sta...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Friendly reminder: Big Ten “cleared & vetted” Oregon & Washington as B1G members if it makes financial sense, @ActionNetworkHQ reported last year. Last August, Oregon & B1G met in Chicago, UW & B1G met in New York. They are set to go - if B1G & network partners figure out money

https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/s...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Big Ten just trying to figure out financials at this point on Oregon & Washington, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. “There is no more research or information needed on Oregon & Washington,” B1G sources said. “We have everything we need.”

https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/s...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

The Big Ten will wait to see what happens with the Pac 12 (all eyes on Arizona). However, if the Big Ten chooses to expand, the focus is now on adding just two teams: Oregon and Washington, industry sources tell Yahoo Sports

https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Big 10/pac 10 championship in the ROSE BOWL

Thanks for all the updates!

Hmm interesting


Apple's primary media rights deal w/Pac-12 expires at end of week, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. Proposal is in "low $20 million" figure per school/annually, but can fluctuate/increase based on membership size & subscription incentives, sources said

https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/s...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Apple doesn't like to wait on contracts twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy


https://twitter.com/bmarcello/status...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Pac12: "Everyone, calm down. Streaming is where the money is. Our income is based on how many people watch our sports. We could blow the Big10, SEC, & Big12 out of the water!"

Pac12: "So all we need is 30 billion subscribers & we should hit what the Big 12 is making."

Arizona: "Um, there are only 7 billion people on the planet."

Pac12: https://media.tenor.com/ImODDkIics4AAAAM/uhhhhh.gif

They would need a ridiculously high # of subscribers... in the millions... to get the value of that media deal configuration to be anything close to the Big 12's media deal.

Good luck trying to get millions of people to sign up to watch the likes of an Oregon State-Cal football game kicking off at 10:00 p.m Eastern Time.

I'm stupid and haven't been following this much at all but one of the conferences is going with apple+? and their deal making any money is contingent on people signing up for yet ANOTHER streaming service, am I getting this right?

lol

do these brian geniouses not understand that there's a limit to how many services people are going to get and the market is already saturated. shit look at netflix (oh wait no one does anymore) lol

I can only assume it was either a terrible decision from PAC officials trying to be innovative, or they really didn't have much other option.


What's strange to me is why other conferences are looking to get a piece of the west coast time zone, but being on the west coast is often used as a reason why those teams/games don't get any viewers.

I would think there are schools on the West Coast that you put them in games at 6p/7p CT their viewership will increase. But not many central/Eastern people staying up until 12a/1a to watch their games

They have no other option.

The Pac 12 has been repeatedly rejected by every other media entity.

Reportedly they went begging to NBC THREE times this past year and were flatly rejected each time.

Suicide watch for Bill Walton?

Conference of losers about to be no more.

Dude is gonna overdose on shrooms and LSD somewhere.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big Ten just trying to figure out financials at this point on Oregon &amp; Washington, sources told <a href="https://twitter.com/ActionNetworkHQ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ActionNetworkHQ</a>. “There is no more research or information needed on Oregon &amp; Washington,” B1G sources said. “We have everything we need.”</p>&mdash; Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1687157744682283008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Already posted.

This has been like "lead, follow or get the hell out of the way"

Not sure how legit this is. Only place I seen it. But the guy is usually right

BREAKING: Have to report the news that I'm hearing (even if it's not good news) and the #Utes have an invite from Yormark and will commit to the #Big12 tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/gswaim/status/16...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w