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And as far as not forking over the $$ and signing him now? Well, he's "reportedly" going to get a deal for roughly the same as his QO from the Royals. NO ONE....especially Santana and his unemployed former agent, saw this coming. We couldn't have planned on that guy's stupid shenanigans. You have to put an offseason plan together and Ervin made it clear to the Royals he wanted multiple years for high dollars. That's where we move on and start assembling our starting 5, and take the comp pick to the bank. I see no cheap Glass, stupid Dayton here. And trust me, I'm often of the opinion they are incompetent. |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Ervin basically wants do-over on qualifying offer, so $14M is magic figure. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23jays&src=hash">#jays</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23o&src=hash">#o</a>'s. <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal">@Ken_Rosenthal</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/dSoldevila">@dSoldevila</a> on this</p>— Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/statuses/442315444175642624">March 8, 2014</a></blockquote>
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So, yeah, we have this one year with James Shields... who is going to leave. Then we back to the bottom of the pile. But thank god we stuck to Glass' budget.... |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Wade Davis is out of the fifth starter competition. He's moving to the back end of the bullpen.</p>— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/442326683127803905">March 8, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>James Shields will start Opening Day and Jason Vargas will start Game 2. Jeremy Guthrie gets the home opener. Game 3 is undecided.</p>— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/442326878724976640">March 8, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
On one hand, I'm glad to see that Yost has enough sense to keep Davis in the 'pen. On the other, it makes the Myers trade more frustrating.
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edit: as of right now, our comp pick appears to be #29, which would be pretty high. |
The #5 starter is between Duffy and Ventura. Loser goes to Omaha.
I assume that if they feel its a tie, then Duffy will get it for service time reasons. They could wait to bring Ventura up until sometime in early May to get that extra year. |
I bet we'd have to go 16-17M to get Santana now.
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At this point, people need to factor in that comp pick. If we presume that it is now a virtual certainty that Santana will not go unsigned past June, then that ~#29 pick is ours, in the bag, in our draft order. If we want to sign him, we are not just out the money, we also surrender a pretty high draft pick, all to have him for one more year? |
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Unless he inexplicably gets forced into the rotation and then explodes into awesomeness, I think this is the last year we'll see Wade Davis in KC. He's already too expensive as a back-end bullpen pitcher, there's no way in hell we should exercise any of his 3 team options. We'll give him his buyout and close the book on "the trade".
edit: Here's our roster, with option info updated to correct a few mistakes. |
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Not trying to argue with you over Glass' cheapness and how deep his pockets are. But you're just completely overlooking the fact that this worked exactly as we had hoped. Couldn't have gone better, actually. Dream scenario for a one year player...he pitched well and we're going to get a high pick and more $$$ for the draft because of it. It seems to me that you think without a doubt that Santana will replicate the season he had last year. In actuality, it's pretty unlikely. Especially when you look at his history. Dropping $15M for one more season and losing the extra pick doesn't make much sense. We have no idea the exact number Santana's people demanded in order for him to come back. And you can't exactly wait until 3 weeks before the season to set your starting 5. |
1 year deal def doesn't help the royals except now our 'year', that pick is valued, obviously why he hasn't signed at this point.
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edit: here's what we have now. #17 Comp pick, currently #29 and probably won't move The 5th competitive balance A pick, it will be somewhere in the high 30's or low 40's. This pick is tradable. Then our 2nd rounder will be about the 15th 2nd round pick. Overall, we'll have 4 of the top 55 or so, and 3 of the top 40 or so. Thats quite a haul, and similar to what the Rays have been doing. |
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By the way, the new beat writer is a must-follow if you are on twitter. That young guy has turned out to be a worthy successor to old man Dutton. |
Tim Brown @TBrownYahoo 5m
.@dSoldevila reporting Ervin Santana has a one-year, $14m deal with Toronto Blue Jays. Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 23s Source close to Ervin Santana talks says Blue Jays do not have an agreement in place with him at this moment. But they are working on it. |
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