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We should do an over/under on how long this debate will be dragged on. The same tired arguments of failure already
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Think of it like herpes in your knee... |
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You're welcome to actually add to the discourse if you'd like. Or jet -- I don't suspect you'll be missed. Whatchya think about his pass blocking? Kingsley looked great in space in college and showed outstanding raw athleticism out there. Then tripped over his dick trying to pass block in the pros. What did you see from him in his platform season to suggest that WON'T be the case for him? Was it when they shredded Western Michigan? |
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Like smooth-brained, emotional people who have no counter-arguments, who start applying thumb downs to every post by a poster with whom they disagree, because they need SOME sort of win and think it does anything but inspire amusement. When even positive posts like "I hope they're right, too. I've been consistent in that. It's a huge, huge win if they are." are getting a thumbs down from someone, you know SOMEONE has tapped out. |
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Ya know what would be cool?
If people shared their thoughts on his ability based on the tape available- +/-/comparisons to other guys, etc. 8000 posts whining about if or if not when we all know only time is going to answer the uncertainty I think is sufficient to have drummed out every take regarding his knee. |
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I'm eagerly awaiting Palangi's deep dive. |
I fully trust this front office and I fully expect Simmons to end up being a good player. Let's do this.
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If Simmons helps us get to another Super Bowl win in the next few years and then falls off after that, it’s still a win. Because he’s cheap. |
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Instant draft reactions/grades always crack me up. Look at the draft from 3, 4, 5 years ago and the opinions at the time it happened. It’s even more speculation when major injuries are a factor
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The interviews from Veach and Reid, along with everything I've read sure lead me to believe that THEY aren't worried about the knee.
I don't think Veach and Reid are stupid, so I'm going to assume they know things I don't. so I'm not going to worry about it. I'm assuming he's ready for camp, just like Reid says. |
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Honestly curious... |
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The data isn't very good and we don't know how high the risk actually is, but that's a boring narrative. |
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At the every least, I think it means he will participate in TC and be ready for the season. |
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Watching him athletically, the body size, the first comp I thought of was healthy D.J. Humphries. He was a really elite mover before the injury, if a touch on the smaller side for a LT. He does have a lot more upper-body strength than guys you see who are that size, usually. Elite, perhaps, even. The pre-injury package is pretty exciting based on his physical traits. His movement skills pop on play tape from this year, but his competition was also pretty meh, so it's hard to really tell how much of a jump he had made from 2023, when he was just an OK starter. The only time I saw him live for an entire game was the Cotton Bowl. I don't remember Darius Robinson lining up over RE to match up against him much, but I do remember Johnny Walker winning from that side a few times, but Mizzou also ran junk fronts at times and would sometimes create weird matchups. The healthy version of this player seems like an ascending guy with pretty close to perfect traits. |
is it really gonna be
"it's too risky" "he has an injury thats super scary" "well it's a risk vs reward type of thing" "but it's so scary that he's injured" "well if he can recover it will be great" "but it's so scary that he's injured" "ya it's a risk but it could possibly pay off" "but it's so scary that he's injured, every team passed on him tho" this type of back and forth for several months? it is what it is, hope it pays off |
Trust in Butkholder.
The Chiefs have intimate knowledge of his injury and the surgery. Had the surgery not gone as well as it did they don't take him but he's healed well. Seems like there is risk but at 32 seems like a great pick to me. |
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Burkholder, an athletic trainer with 30+ years of experience has directly examined him, thoroughly reviewed all of his medical information, etc., and says he’s good to go. I doubt Burkholder would be pressured into reaching that conclusion if he didn’t believe it to be true. So that’s who I am going to trust. |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/mitchholthus?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mitchholthus</a> was on The Drive with <a href="https://twitter.com/cdotharrison?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@cdotharrison</a> and was really excited about the long term OL with the Chiefs draft of Simmons last night. <br><br>�� : <a href="https://t.co/y57slyritz">https://t.co/y57slyritz</a><br>�� : <a href="https://t.co/2ubxvemJdf">https://t.co/2ubxvemJdf</a> <a href="https://t.co/KUZOnr4FPr">pic.twitter.com/KUZOnr4FPr</a></p>— 96.5 The Fan (@TheFan965) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheFan965/status/1915886284922331279?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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The QB Protector has arrived.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Simmons on site �� <a href="https://t.co/0iARqBebFF">pic.twitter.com/0iARqBebFF</a></p>— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1915916084349186158?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
His patellar didn’t implode walking down the stairs… he good.
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I think much of criticism of this high risk selection has taken for a granted a few things: 1) the chiefs are destined to win all close games. 2) the D will remain top 5-10 indefinitely 3) Chiefs O is destined to be great with Mahomes.
The first two I'm not even going to address, but #3 -- the Chiefs O *sucked* last year and the team had no business really making the SB. It was luck. Look, the Chiefs dynasty was built on a high flying offense with Mahomes. That's what can make this insane dynasty continue -- and I think that's the view of Reid and Veach, too, and explains why they did this. |
Jesus, did he fly in a plane or did the plane fly around him?
That is a large human being. |
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With all due respect to so many of our CP top minds who oppose this move
But we're all 100% laymen when it comes to diagnosing and projecting an injury like this... are you all really so sure you're more attuned and informed than Reid, Veach, Burkholder and co? If they feel its a safe bet I wouldn't even mine red shirting him, let him fully rehab that PT for a year with Burkholder working out the kinks and let Moore prove himself in the meantime... this merry go round has to stop somewhere, throw the kitchen sink at it and see what sticks |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs sent a copy of their playbook to everyone they were interested in & taped a $100 bill to the last page.<br><br>Most didn’t even see it, but Josh Simmons was the only person to mail the $100 back. He put it in a card and wrote “Save this for when we win another Super Bowl.”… <a href="https://t.co/RadFQo0eo7">pic.twitter.com/RadFQo0eo7</a></p>— Chris (@chiefs_outsider) <a href="https://twitter.com/chiefs_outsider/status/1915919470658207952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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lol yeah right I saw Draft Day too |
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LMAO enjoy the journey, soon it will be camp and he will be Roaf-like
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Hammock and Marty writing a shit piece after they get shit on each others piece.
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His kneecap bone exploded midair! |
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Here's a thought: stop citing anecdotal evidence from 20 years ago. Cadillac Williams? GTFO. Dude was drafted when Aaron Rodgers still went to family dinners. |
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As DJ pointed out earlier, there are several posters here who believe every word ever uttered/unuttered by the media is a lie Not saying you’re one of them. |
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We're all just guessing here. Which is fine. Let's guess and argue. But the condescension is ridiculous. Y'all don't know SHIT. None of us do. |
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That being said, I'm an audio engineer/college drop-out/flunkie guitar player with a little more than average football knowledge. Veach and Reid seem confident and unworried about the injury, so I'll go with that. |
Burkholder scoured the medicals and Heck field tested him, thats good enough for me... my biggest concern is that they rush him along too quickly, ala Humphries and Suamataia
Give him all the time he needs to work out the kinks and be 100% comfortable out there |
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Zero chance that happens. |
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Meanwhile we can see what we have in Moore |
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Saying it was luck is just stupid and uninformed. Really something one of our dumbass rival fan bases would say. You don’t win that many games with just luck. GTFOH with that BS. |
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I'm not a knee surgeon or have a medical degree, but I have experience with the patellar tendon and the Patella. My daughter was a pretty damn good at gymnastics. Until she ruptured her patellar tendon. It wasn't even gymnastics that did the dirty deed. She stepped off the school bus into the gutter of a concrete curb it was full off frozen and slushy leaves. She fell and landed her knee on the top edge of the curb. It dislocated her kneecap. I got a call that my daughter may have broken her leg off the bus. So went down to the end of the street, picked her up carried her home. Her kneecap looked like Patrick's. I called her pediatrician they said take her to Children's Mercy Emergency. Anyway, the kneecap kept popping out, so more deeper look revealed a tear in the lower patellar tendon. Just like that, her days as a young gymnast were over. |
The above is why I cringe every time, Bewildered BWillie posts about making QB sneaks great again with Mahomes. The Chiefs have the medical history on Pats' knee and there is a reason Andy won't take the chance I suspect.
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After time to digest and process, some thoughts on Simmons. There had to be concerns about being able to retain information. Everyone has mentioned that they rechecked him on multiple visits and zoom calls to test his recollection. That and his colored hair and nose ring had to be the “character concerns” that’s have been brought up by randoms. He even mentioned in his interview “they don’t let just anyone come here”…indicating that was expressed to him specifically.
I have full confidence that Andy/Brett designed a comprehensive plan after identifying the red flags they saw in the kid and will stay on top of it to give us the best chance of him reaching his potential. |
Not the colored hair and nose ring
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Hell that's actually a bit of a red flag but it seems like people here are working OT on a whole different narrative for some reason. Its almost like they didn't like the idea before hand so torpedoes be damned, we are moving forward with the narrative at all cost. One side or the other is way off, going to be interesting to see which one. |
His injury can't be worse than my babysitter's when I was a really little kid, so rejoice!
It was summertime and she brought over squirt guns for something fun later to do. We had a water gun fight in the backyard, but somehow it started up again as we were going back inside the house, which was a ranch style where you could go around in circles between 4 of the rooms, including the kitchen. My older sister and I were teamed up against the babysitter, chasing her in circles. Over time water started accumulating on a few spots in the kitchen, that had linoleum floors. At some point she was running into the kitchen, hit a wet spot, slipped, and slid into the dishwasher and counter. In a freak accident, she caught some sharp metal or something and due to her momentum it made a wide U shaped cut along the side of her knee. We heard a frightening shriek, came into the kitchen, and saw blood pooling on the floor and her hysteric, holding her knee awkwardly from the side on top. She said it had broken off and flapping to the side. The rest was a crazy blur and I remember sitting at the hospital for a couple hours, then my parents showing up to get us, and never seeing that babysitter again. |
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The entire story felt like a dear penthouse. I was just waiting for it to turn.
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