It's close..but that's the nicer part to say the least. I'm further North than that but the point still stands of I'm not really sure where they'd even propose to put that in Independence.

And by that name I was referring to the mall, and while it's called that it's in the Nothern part not the actual center.

Very easy. Its in ****ing Raytown.

Yep, if they go the new route, it will never be where Kaufmann is...

No, it isn't. Independence Center is almost as far south in Independence as you can be.

For someone who claims to live in the area you are about as clueless as one can be.

I enjoy how I live in the Northern part and that is literally 5 minutes from my house. But hey whatever.

...and it's not like they didn't have 3 years to figure this out.

I just read where the Dallas Mayor said North Texas could support a second NFL franchise, referring to this situation.

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It absolutely is, or at least it's supposed to be.

It's not odd...I think most of us are ok w/ an ad hoc tax that directly benefits the community from where it came, not some unaccountable bureaucracy that funds political patrons, foreign countries, or black budgets.

Here is a map of Independence city limits with an arrow pointing to location of independence center.

https://i.imgur.com/dwxHwhT.png

How the F is the arrow pointing to northern independence?

I could do that stretch in 5 minutes.

Even though I live in Kansas, I love Arrowhead and will be sorry to see it go (if that happens). That being said, I would be open to having a stadium by the racetrack. :)

Alright guess I never thought of it that way.

Level Bally's and put the Royals on the river. Arrive by rowboat.

I just read where John Elway said your butthole could support his vodka soaked cock.

96 million is the sportsbooks' combined gross revenue and that is taxed at 10 percent, so your 96 million is actually 9.6 million. and 80 percent of that is 7.68 million.

News accounts say it was less than 7.68.

https://kansasreflector.com/briefs/k...ized-gambling/

https://www.legalsportsreport.com/13...evenue-report/

Was the mail sent from Florida with the letter smeared in burrito stains?

It never occurred to you to determine location from looking at a map vs how long it takes you to drive there in a car?

One thing about the downtown ideas is it is centrally located. It is a ****ing bitch to get all the way to the stadium complex from West Shawnee just like it would be miserable for someone from Blue Springs to make it to The Legends.

I assumed it was in the same part since it's pretty close to me...oh well.

Either way the point I was making is I don't even know where they'd build a stadium in Independence.

But why not just say that? I think most people would shrug their shoulders and say ok and vote yes.

But maybe I am wrong.

Because they don't want to deal with all the people bitching that they love Arrowhead. You know all the "save the K" people that literally think voting no is going to save the K?

It would be 100 times worse with Arrowhead.

For this reason alone, I now really, really hope they move to Kansas. You Missouri or nothing dipsticks are just ridiculous.

The team already is associated with that state. The state name is in the team name, for God's sake.

Sherman's wife is on Facebook talking about moving to KS so there's that

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And in the future when a dumbass opposing fan makes a Wizard of Oz reference, at least they'll reside in the correct state for it.

Get Rashee off free and clear then we can negotiate.

Does she also look like a sleazeball?

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Mormons believe that Missouri is the Holy Land, can't see Andy moving to Kansas ROFL

LMAO

Salty!

Kansas City Kansas Royals. No Missourians allowed!

Maybe Mecca lives in Lakewood off Woods Chapel Road?

Right up 291 and that's about a 5-7 minute drive to I.C. depending on traffic.

Scratch that: That's 5-7 minutes SOUTH of Independence Center. Been a while since I been up that way.

The Chiefs are one of the pillar franchises of the NFL. They aren't going anywhere over one vote that included the Royals and a really uninspiring upgrade to Arrowhead.

Her name is Marny? ****ing Marny, that sounds like a made up misspelling.

I had no idea Independence was that big. Crazy.

At first I thought that said morons.

LMAO A bit mask off there, eh?

Kansas City Chiefs, Wyandotte not feather

Both are defensible points.

(And, yes, I live in Missouri)

That seems like the logical conclusion. Take a little more time figuring a better plan for each franchise that has a positive effects for the fans and the team, then put the proposal back on the ballot in another year or two. From everything I’ve read and heard, it just sounds like all these plans were done last minute just like most of my book reports in high school.

It kinda does.

They specifically believed that the Garden of Eden was in St. Joseph. I’ve driven through there and can’t find it. 😂

Garden of Eden is the speedy's ball

It's only there in late July through mid/late August...

You have a year at the most, if that, to get things done by 2031. This lost so badly they may move on to other venues and voters soon.

FYP

I haven’t kept up with the whole situation, but if they were to come up with an agreement and the renovations, new stadium, etc were to go past 2031, couldn’t they just extend the lease another couple of years until construction was completed?

Outside of KC/STL, there isn't a nickel's worth of difference between Kansas and Missouri. Why argue about which turd smells the best?

You have clearly never lived in either then…holy moley! :shake:

Why even talk about independence?

There is a greater chance both teams move to Joplin than either move to Independence.

That's nonsense. There's plenty of ways to make it work in that time frame. There's zero reason for a panic driven vote on a shitty proposal.

She must have been hacked I thought Sherman and the Royals cared about the Crossroads community

I no longer live in the area…how likely is it that Johnson County already has a pretty attractive deal in the works? I’d be shocked if they aren’t burning the midnight oil to hammer one out quickly…but, again, I’m not up=to-date on local political winds. :spock:

Well, the opposite could be said of those that always are for more gov't and taxes.

Personally, I am generally against more gov't and more taxes. That being said, sports teams kind of have us over a barrel. They can just get a better offer from somewhere else and move. 3/8 of a cent doesn't seem like much to me to guarantee our 2 professional sports teams remain in KC. Also, those sports teams actually provide tangible benefits in added revenue to the city as well as entertainment for the residents.

But I agree that the plan sounds like it was crap. I'm not sure I would have voted for it, either.

False, but I'll play along. What makes Missouri and Kansas so different?

Not to get too political but yes, cutting taxes and smaller government is what conservatives generally stand for. That being said, many Republican politicians are not really conservative at all. They are supposed to be and they like to campaign like they are but very few are truly conservative.

Could anyone that says there is some imminent move to Kansas explain why nobody is saying anything about Johnson County being the place when they have a lot more people and a much higher median income?

If having the Chiefs or Royals play at a new stadium that is partly paid for with public funds is so great, then why isn't Johnson County mentioned.

Rank County Population
1 Johnson County 610,742
2 Sedgwick County 522,700
3 Shawnee County 178,625
4 Wyandotte County 167,989
5 Douglas County 119,094


Why not Overland Park or Olathe?

1 Wichita 395,951
2 Overland Park 196,676
3 Kansas City 155,438
4 Olathe 142,114

Everyone wants the government to pay for their own special interests, regardless of party affiliation.

Marny Sherman in the comments wildin

Genuinely curious but why did the Crossroads Association sign an agreement with the Royals and put out a statement saying they (the Royals) answered all their questions, halfway through the day yesterday?

The whole thing seemed wonky

Legends was a cornfield... until they did something with it. Kinda like the wasteland surrounding the sports complex.

No, it's not nonsense. Another campaign next spring to try and pass again, if that fails, then they are really up against it to work on another contingency. If the Chiefs want to move, they will start the process soon for a new suitor, and it will their offices and practice facilities will be there in 2028, followed by the new Arrowhead in 2031. I don't want this, but it's quite obvious what the Chiefs are doing.

Well there's this invisible line and then there's this river. Everything west of the river/line is just terrible because reasons. But, magically, as soon as one crosses the river/line, everything is paradise!

You guys can park in my driveway once the Chiefs move to Kansas, I'll even cut you a deal.. only $25.

It would take what.... 4-5 years to build a new stadium that they would be in start of 2031. So I would think at best you got another year, maybe two, before they would have to commit to something else.

Culture, political climate, demographics, etc

https://www.americancommunities.org/...ssouri-differ/

It would be stupid to give Jackson County a second chance.

LMAO

A simple extension of the current lease as part of a new proposal would give them all the time they would need. That or a hundred other solutions.

Keep in mind, the new Raiders stadium in Vegas was designed and constructed completely in just over 3 years. And that's for a completely new development. The Chiefs have only been asking for renovations.

Lets go Marny. **** all those broke pieces of shit in Jackson County.

Maybe not a paradise, but you at least won't die when it snows...

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I don't even think the Royals should allow Kansas City to be in their name anymore. How about the Kansas Royals? Or the Johnson County Royals?

That would be great.

Look for the giant flaming sword.

You BETTER know the password, though. :eek:

I don't think they will.

Relegate the Royals to Topeka until they build a winner again.

North Eastern Kansas Baseball Team

Look at these ****ing losers

https://www.kansascity.com/latest-ne...rally103019JW1

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