That's why I brought up Moore clearly getting pissed. I've never seen a vet so visibly frustrated with their rookie QB so soon, and Moore is far from the diva type. Can't help but wonder what his teammates think about him so far.

He’s so Gen Z! I’m sure his teammates won’t mind him taking a mental health half off here and there. Ugh life can be tough sometimes and you just need to zone out ya know?

They elected him as their team captain.

I'm aware, but I'm not convinced that's not a role he was given due to his status as a QB and high level prospect, as opposed to something he earned. I also wouldn't put it past the Bears to force/push that given the narratives surrounding Caleb.

I'm not even a Caleb hater. I've been defending the guy on the field and as a prospect up until now. The truth is I expected much better, and I'd be a little worried if I were a Bears fan.

Obviously players "want" their QB to be a team leader. Just seemed like a mistake to bestow that honor without it being first earned. Maybe the other players should see it as their job to lead the team this year while Caleb adjusts to the NFL. Broncos did the same thing. Trying to prop somebody up artificially rather than having them first earn respect on the field.

I believe everything I say and you should too

All I know is...even the wild rookie version of Patrick Mahomes would have given his receiver a better chance on that final throw for the Bears last night. Romo said it yesterday, Mahomes will always give his receiver a chance to make a play on 4th down. Even when it looks hopeless, like his body horizontal to the ground and he somehow throws an accurate ball 30 yards downfield.

I think if they are 1-7, they will not be in the need of a win streak. It will be in the need of getting the best OL guy in the draft. OL's have a lot to do with how a rookie looks and it is one thing to let a rookie gain experience and learn by playing but if your not giving him a least some time in the pocket it really is not a productive learining experience. At some point they may need to sit him if they can not protect him and figure out things up front.

When you look around the league, he's not really dealing with anything different from anyone else.

Every team has pass rushers and every team seems to struggle to give their QB a few seconds to throw.

No one is talking about Stroud's Oline and there were plenty of times last night where the DL was all over him the moment the ball was snapped.

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He's had 2 games. Let's not go CD razy.

he didn't want to hear it

I don't even care for this kid, but I'm not a big fan of the NFL blasting that out there like that. Good on Stroud, but twinkle toes didn't want to hear it and putting it out there like that is not going to help him grow and mature. It'd be different if some troll account dropped it, but the actual NFL account doing it just seems odd.

..... now back to shitting on this kid, because bears.

https://scontent.fmkc2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...iw&oe=66F007AA

Stop.

That is definitely weird.

But I’m glad it’s out there. That’s just really bad on Caleb. It’s one thing to be frustrated or tired or pissed off. That was the look of entitlement and stroud, the good guy, looked stunned that Caleb was being dismissive.

The kid will probably figure things out but his entitlement just keeps throwing red flag after red flag

Caleb didn’t have time to hear that shit. He was already thinking about what inspirational things he was gonna paint on his nails for the next game

Look no further than Mahomes, Patrick.

Reid: You need an X-Ray.

Mahomes: NO! HELL NO! I’m good. NO! Do it at halftime.

Reid: Get the XRay.

Mahomes: ****

Hour later: Massive scramble to get in FG range.

He's clearly just in pain!

He’s realizing he can’t be as zesty if he isn’t good on the field. And if Caleb can’t be zesty and wear his favorite skirt out in public he gets pissed!

.... and the O-line guys hear all of that stuff. That's a guy the big uglies will go to war for. Even if they're not capable of the job on the given night, they'll go down brawling for him.

Pretty embarrassing for Caleb to have CJ Stroud talking down to him as if Stroud is 20 years older, even though Stroud is just one month older than Caleb. That's not like Brady talking to Mahomes in 2018 for instance. Stroud is a million miles ahead of Caleb in development, even though basically identical in age. I wouldn't feel too good about this if I was a Chicago Bears fan.

Arrogance. It’s ugly.


Mahomes is arrogant. So why is his arrogance different? He doesn’t come off negatively.

Real Chicago fans right now

https://i.imgur.com/2gZ1ULV.jpg

He got his ass kicked by the Utes a couple times 0-3.

Caleb’s problem is that he already thinks he’s in the same league as Mahomes, nevermind CJ.

How many weeks until Caleb starts blaming other people for holding him back?

Eberflus better get this turned around soon or he’s a dead man walking.

Eberflus is gone.

Like gone gone.

Dude should have been on borrowed time last year and for reasons unbeknownst to humanity, the Bears kept him.

Even a diva like Aaron Fraudgers is respectful towards his opponent at the end of a game. This kid on the other hand, defines a whole different category of diva combined with arrogance and weird efeminate behaviour. Stroud is all class and maturity and this weirdo doesn't even look at him. The whole body language is off. No humbleness. Just pure negative energy.

the man needs an Alex Smith to sit behind and learn the ropes in the rookie year

Narcissist

Stop cutting that man breaks he's always been a weird guy.

He's like the opposing player version of what Ken pom connection is for lebron . VERY SIMILAR in their delusions and ability to lie to defend them. I think I even saw him white knight Mo Pix. Broncos fans have already given up that

I said “probably”, shitlord.

Add that onto frustration of things not going your way during the game and ultimately losing in front of the entire country.

Case in point.

Why are you surprised that NFL fans are impatient? You either perform or your career ends quickly regardless if hype and draft position

The Texans have an OL. The Bears don't. It all starts there.

His bear claws turned out to be armadillo claws, clawing up the turf. As bad as he was, he improved from game one

I’m not. I still follow our GDTs every week. After establishing a dynasty we still have bozos ready to go nuclear everytime we’re in a one score game.

What you claim isn’t really true anyway. Baker is on his third team now and currently lighting it up. Bryce Young has looked like biggest bust since Jamarcus Russell and yet he’ll get another opportunity. Jameis Winston, Mariota, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, and Sam Darnold are all still in the league as well.

Listen I hate Tom Brady as much as the next guy but I think he has a great point about QB’s like these rookies who are playing spread offense style college ball and then immediately being plugged in to start in an NFL offense with no development.

You’re seeing that from all these rookie QB starters.

And people wonder why Jordan Love and Patrick Mahomes looked good in their first year starting when they were purposefully sitting to learn.

Patriots and Falcons are doing the right thing

He's not exactly wrong, Baker Mayfield and possibly Sam Darnold may actually be solid NFL starters but teams gave up on them.

The whole rookie QB contract thing has sped up the clock on QB development at a time when guys are raw as ****.

Josh Allen still has got people expecting him to fall back to how he started.

Will never ever EVER not love this kid for stuff like that.

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Ugh...nobody deserves this guy at QB.

Side note.

How has "FUUUUUUCK!!! God Dammit!!" not been Gif'd and turned into some CP Meme by now?

Additional side note - I forgot how laughably stacked Brittany was with her pregnancy rack.

huh huh huh you said "massive bust"

Caleb Leaf

That’s the one.

That’s the intangible stuff that makes me want to club baby seals when Williams says shit like, “there’s nothing he can do that I can’t.” Or whatever.

What a fail LMAO

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I called it, but he's clearly the next Mahomes...sure sure

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LOL at CJ Stroud acting like he's Joe Montana in the post game chat with Caleb...Herbert put up better rookie numbers in an offense that wasn't as stacked and with a trifling ass coach. I never saw herbie pulling QB's aside and acting like a pompous horses ass.

It's become an Alpha move, and probably has been for awhile

Herberts OC that year was Shane Steichen...

It's like people are missing the offensive mind on the Bears is Shane Waldron a dude who was asshole in Seattle last year.

Steichens offense looks like doodie this year.

He's still far superior to Shane Waldron if you look at his history.

Maybe it’s the Chicago curse. They don’t seem to be able to get a good QB.

It’s kind of starting to look like last year. The wrong quarterback was drafted number one.

Are you talking about Jayden Daniels? He's going to die he's not that big and he runs constantly.

Daniels was hurt in their last game briefly. He did come back in but at this point he is the Temu version of Lamar.

Probably not great that Odunze’s dad is sharing All 22 of his son being open in the endzone and not getting the ball thrown to him.

Yikes

LMAO

I like it. Put the heat on the qb. He will melt

It worked so well in Cleveland that Baker Mayfield became a good QB somewhere else.

To be fair, that was a response to Orlovsky saying Rome isn't getting separation. He wasn't trying to shit on Caleb or anything.

Link to the exchange?

Caleb can go ahead and fail in Chicago and be a good qb 5 years from now then. Works for me

The point is people getting so worked up that a rookie QB has to be great immediately is just insanity. It's part of the reason why the league is where it is.

Has nothing to do with him being a rookie. It is 100% body language and how he carries himself.

That entire offense is ****ed, they can't run the ball. They are having the exact same protection problems Seattle had when Shane Waldron was there. You've got a bunch of guys pouting. DJ Moore basically had pouty face for an entire game, Rome Odunze basically got bodied for 99% of that game.

Everyone is to blame there it isn't just oh this QB sucks, he's learning he can't get away with shit he did in college but the scheme they are using is not helping him at all.

But I guess that's the Bears being the Bears, get that #1 QB and give him a crappy OC as the only dude to help his development.

It's not just about this year. His body language has been shit for quite awhile.

https://media.tenor.com/9z9qYz8DROgA...rs-smoking.gif

It's only been two games, but I said prior to the draft and many others did as well that his attitude is not leader like at all. He will not take accountability and be a leader. He has no humility and is far too arrogant

It's amazing to see so many making excuses for a generational talent in the best situation a #1 overall pick could ever hope for.

Is it all his fault? Of course not, but he has been very disappointing, and the red flags that people talked about are already showing a little bit.

1. The most talented qb to ever come out of the draft

2. The best situation a number 1 qb pick has ever been put in

3. He's a better prospect than Mahomes was coming out of college

4. His arm and scrambling ability are elite

5. Caleb said "there's nothing Mahomes does that I can't do"

6. Caleb's dad asked for a percentage in ownership

7. Caleb asked for the franchise tag to be removed from his contract.

8. Caleb texted his new punter "you're not gonna be needed much on sunday's"

9. The media ignores all the warning signs during camp where he struggled a lot. Ignored his struggles against the Bengals second and third stringers in the preseason game and hypes up three throws and a scramble.

10. Media figures like Nick Wright has Chicago going to the superbowl and others have them making the playoffs.

The reason why so many are down on Caleb is because of the huge hype and lofty expectations, coupled with his own well documented arrogance, meant there was a stage prepared for him that only the very best walk on. And right now the kid has stage fright.

I'm sure he will settle down and have better days. But as we've seen with Bryce Young, Zach Wilson etc sometimes physical limitations and a lack of confidence can be a devastating tonic.

Eberflus sucks anyway, should have been fired already.

Nah - because he'll end up in the AFC where all the other damn QBs are.

I'm fine with him being good in the NFC. A little balance couldn't hurt.

Chicago offense looks to me like they didn't practice until late August.

I'm old enough to remember when Caleb was trying to negotiate an ownership stake as part of his deal with the Bears


ROFL

He probably gets Tua concussion vids on the hour. He can't quit LMAO

I keep hearing pundits talk about how the Bears don't do enough on offense, and their scheme and plays are very simple. So simple that defenses aren't being stressed.

When i hear that all i can think is that....well...maybe a simple offense and simple concepts are all that Caleb can process right now.

Am i supposed to believe that Caleb can run a more complicated, diverse scheme? Why?

You know who he reminds me of out there right now? Bryce Young.