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BossChief 03-23-2022 02:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16209598)
This actually isn't true. It's a 1-year deal. There's no cap hit next year at all.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...chuster-21804/
the not likely to be earned part is what he talked about.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16209958)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">More Tyreek Hill contract details: The $72.2 million becomes fully guaranteed at the start of the 2023 league year. The other $52.535 million is fully guaranteed at signing.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1506676546311962631?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

72 million guaranteed over 4 years is 18 mil a year...

Uh, how's that a bad deal? I'd guarantee Tyreek that over the next 4 years easily.
Did you even read the tweet?

-King- 03-23-2022 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 16209973)
120 over 4 years. You do not get the full four years if you only pay him the guaranteed portion.
If he hits all his incentives and shit and earns the full 120 over the next 4 years, why would anyone be mad? Guaranteed money is the only money that matters.

Shields68 03-23-2022 02:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16209977)
Still laughing at "seeking 2 first rounders" turning into #29 and chaff. ****ing abysmal
Yep and the speculation that Waddle or Moore were also going to be thrown in.

BF88 03-23-2022 02:56 PM
Does anyone actually think Tyreke has the maturity to play in a place like Miami? Let’s face it, he’s gonna get in some kind of trouble there sooner or later.

He behaved here because Reid was on his ass and well let’s face it, it’s easier to focus on football in Kansas City than freaking Miami or LA or somewhere like that.

htismaqe 03-23-2022 02:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16209989)
Did you even read the tweet?
I was talking about Juju, not Hill.

TwistedChief 03-23-2022 02:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BF88 (Post 16209992)
Does anyone actually think Tyreke has the maturity to play in a place like Miami? Let’s face it, he’s gonna get in some kind of trouble there sooner or later.

He behaved here because Reid was on his ass and well let’s face it, it’s easier to focus on football in Kansas City than freaking Miami or LA or somewhere like that.
Stfu

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-23-2022 02:57 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WoW.... lost for words</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1506732192386490369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

comochiefsfan 03-23-2022 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BF88 (Post 16209992)
Does anyone actually think Tyreke has the maturity to play in a place like Miami? Let’s face it, he’s gonna get in some kind of trouble there sooner or later.

He behaved here because Reid was on his ass and well let’s face it, it’s easier to focus on football in Kansas City than freaking Miami or LA or somewhere like that.
Reid has never been on anyone's ass. He lets his guys do whatever the hell they want.

sedated 03-23-2022 02:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16209970)
They let Randy Moss, Wes Welker and Richard Seymour go LMAO
They also let Chandler Jones go, didn't want to pay him despite being a pass rushing force in his prime.

TEX 03-23-2022 02:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16209975)
4 years and close to 125m all essentially fully guaranteed.

No snow
Not cold half the year
Lots to do and other major sports teams in the market.

I can’t blame him for looking at those aspects after winning a title in KC and having nothing left to prove.
Except Hill was still under contract. KC had control. Should have made him play this year and revisit this next season.

Shields68 03-23-2022 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16209990)
If he hits all his incentives and shit and earns the full 120 over the next 4 years, why would anyone be mad? Guaranteed money is the only money that matters.
But only the first 3 years for 72 million is guaranteed. They could cut him year 4 take a huge cap hit and not pay him. Sort of like we could have done with Clark.

jd1020 03-23-2022 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16209989)
Did you even read the tweet?
It's a poorly worded tweet.

He already tweeted the contract was 4/120 with $72.2M guaranteed. He then followed up with that tweet to say $52M is guaranteed at signing and the full $72.2M is guaranteed in 2023.

The Franchise 03-23-2022 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16209998)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WoW.... lost for words</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1506732192386490369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Have fun in your last year here.

Fishels 03-23-2022 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16209917)
Leave it to the people bringing in 50k to question a player accepting $10M/yr more.
Leave it you(whoever you are) to completely miss the point. Some people argue he needs the money to take care of his family. As in a non greedy sort of way. If you can’t make ends meet on 20 million you aren’t on 30 was my point.

Option B is he wanted more money for himself in the “I want even more stuff” kind of way. Cars, houses etc which I’m calling him greedy on.

It doesn’t require a great deal of knowledge to come to the conclusion that it’s option B and Tyreek Hill wants more stuff.

But If by chance it is Option A, and he’s finically struggling with the money he’s making now then you’re right he has much bigger problems than winning.

Again see Nic Cage

Chiefer89 03-23-2022 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16209776)
Chiefs should have just let his contract run out and then tagged him.

Probably get two more Super Bowls doing that.

Instead you get a 1st and a bunch of fluff picks.

Jiminy ****ing Christmas, it's all ****ing over.
Ridiculous post

htismaqe 03-23-2022 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 16209973)
120 over 4 years. You do not get the full four years if you only pay him the guaranteed portion.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Dolphins and Tyreek Hill have reportedly agreed to a four-year extension, worth up to $120 million, with $72.2 million guaranteed <a href="https://t.co/jmhIymfT7R">https://t.co/jmhIymfT7R</a></p>&mdash; Sports Illustrated (@SInow) <a href="https://twitter.com/SInow/status/1506688492809633796?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Dude, the ENTIRETY of his contract is guaranteed in the first two years - $50M now and $70M this time next year.

Unless they cut him and take a massive cap hit after 2022, they're on the hook.

It's not hard to understand.

Mr. Plow 03-23-2022 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 16209971)
Same level?

Are you holding a poster like me to the antics of your worst enemies?

The central dynamic has been for a long time that I tried to find an optimistic path from promising player developments throughout the team and given the realities of the league, and for that I've been accused of everything from undyling love of Alex and mediocrity to wanting to birth his babies, even though I was just being objective and realistic.

And once the QB-fiends get what WE ALL WANTED in Mahomes, it turns into 'hey! Everything's fine, just enjoy!! Nobody makes mistakes anymore . . . There are no obstacles that can't be overcome with Mahomes flinging another few impossible passes, and if we don't win, . . . well maybe we win tomorrow, or next year, or in a few years, . . . stop moping.'

And even then, the response wasn't vitriol, but cautious admonition . . .

Who lobbed vitriol at you for overconfidence? Name names.
Good Lord. Stop being so dramatic and relax a bit.

JPH83 03-23-2022 02:59 PM
I was feeling pretty down about this but then realised the upside. Let's enjoy seeing everyone try and use their bullshit Cover 8/Cover 1 million approach now. Dicks.

jd1020 03-23-2022 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 16210006)
Leave it you(whoever you are) to completely miss the point. Some people argue he needs the money to take care of his family. As in a non greedy sort of way. If you can’t make ends meet on 20 million you aren’t on 30 was my point.

Option B is he wanted more money for himself in the “I want even more stuff” kind of way. Cars, houses etc which I’m calling him greedy on.

It doesn’t require a great deal of knowledge to come to the conclusion that it’s option B.

And if it it is Option A and he’s finically struggling with the money he’s making now then you’re right he has much bigger problems than winning.

Again see Nic Cage
Calling someone greedy for wanting more money is the dumbest ****ing thing imaginable. We all want more money.

kccrow 03-23-2022 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16209914)
Name a player as good as Tyreek that New England traded away in their prime.

I mean top 10 in the league hall of fame caliber player.

Not some fringe pro bowler.
Traded? For sure these guys:
Seymour
Logan Mankins
Chandler Jones

And they've let many just walk too.
Ty Law comes to mind.
Lawyer Malloy
Wes Welker.
JC Jackson could end up one.

And plenty of quality talents too not as good as these.

TEX 03-23-2022 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16209998)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WoW.... lost for words</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1506732192386490369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Yep. Me too. Sends the wrong message to the team CJ, doesn't it....

KingPriest2 03-23-2022 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 16209920)
Veach has 12 draft picks and 30m.....its a GM wet dream
Actuslly 13. Already had 10

And he has 12 next year

25 picks the next 2 years

18 in the first 4 rounds

dirk digler 03-23-2022 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16209967)
That’s not at all what the trade is.

You aren’t even including draft picks with the cap space.
Ok Hill or Ronald Jones, Clowney and Marquez Valdes-Scantling, an extra 1st rd pick and an extra 2nd round pick?

-King- 03-23-2022 03:00 PM
I also don't understand pushing part of Frank Clark's dead money into next year if your whole goal is to save money for the future. All these moves make no sense in combination with each other.

FloridaMan88 03-23-2022 03:00 PM
I’ll feel better about this trade if Veach can sign or trade for another impact veteran WR… not some Julio Jones-brokedick to provide a buffer as the Chiefs develop a rookie WR (or multiple rookie WR’s) into their offense.

Bwana 03-23-2022 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16209998)
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Please, someone make us the same offer for Jones.
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RunKC 03-23-2022 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16209985)
You're comparing brokedick Richard Seymour, system Wes Welker and washed Randy Moss to Tyreek Hill IN HIS PRIME!!!

This is copium of the highest order. None of those guys were close to as good as Hill is right now at the moment they were let go.
Seymour was a 3X first team all pro and multi year pro bowler coming off his best season when Bill traded him. He was 29 years old and still in his prime. The Raiders made him the highest paid player in football less than 2 years later.

Then they ended up drafting a guy named Chandler Jones and then Donta Hightower shortly after.

Yeah I’m gonna go with what history tells me. Dumbass

htismaqe 03-23-2022 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16209998)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WoW.... lost for words</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1506732192386490369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
You can be traded too, Chris Jones.

Chiefs=Champions 03-23-2022 03:01 PM
It sucks to lose Tyreek. Have never and will never see another player with his skil set. The fastest player to ever play in the NFL. Would he have lost that speed over the next few years? Maybe, guess that's part of what the Chiefs are banking on?

The silver lining to this trade is Veach. He always seems to be one step ahead of the league. He's trying a soft rebuild before we have to pay ludicrous contracts and I think thats ultimately the right decision.

TEX 03-23-2022 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16210013)
Calling someone greedy for wanting more money is the dumbest ****ing thing imaginable. We all want more money.
Maybe. But I've had enough $$$ and taken a job for less before .Just depends on the situation.

cdcox 03-23-2022 03:02 PM
:(

Chiefs=Champions 03-23-2022 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16210015)
Yep. Me too. Sends the wrong message to the team CJ, doesn't it....
Down voted this due to fat thumbs. Sorry

Mecca 03-23-2022 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 16210006)
Leave it you(whoever you are) to completely miss the point. Some people argue he needs the money to take care of his family. As in a non greedy sort of way. If you can’t make ends meet on 20 million you aren’t on 30 was my point.

Option B is he wanted more money for himself in the “I want even more stuff” kind of way. Cars, houses etc which I’m calling him greedy on.

It doesn’t require a great deal of knowledge to come to the conclusion that it’s option B and Tyreek Hill wants more stuff.

But If by chance it is Option A, and he’s finically struggling with the money he’s making now then you’re right he has much bigger problems than winning.

Again see Nic Cage
If someone offered you twice what you do now, you'd change jobs. This argument always amuses me, people change jobs over money all the time.

Also at 28 this is likely Tyreek only shot at a big deal.

staylor26 03-23-2022 03:03 PM
If the Chiefs find a legit WR1 in this draft, everything else will be gravy in terms of the trade.

TEX 03-23-2022 03:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16210027)
You can be traded too, Chris Jones.
Should have been. Said it back then

DaFace 03-23-2022 03:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16210010)
Dude, the ENTIRETY of his contract is guaranteed in the first two years - $50M now and $70M this time next year.

Unless they cut him and take a massive cap hit after 2022, they're on the hook.

It's not hard to understand.
The tweets are confusing on this. I think it's actually just the $70M (total) that becomes fully guaranteed in 2023, but I could be wrong.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-23-2022 03:03 PM
If we win the super bowl next year let alone a stacked AFC West Veach deserves a guaranteed contract for life

jd1020 03-23-2022 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16210022)
You're misinterpreting it. The 72 million is the ADDITIONAL GUARANTEES that kick in in 2023 on top of the 53 million that's guaranteed from day 1.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong and bad at math but he signed a $120M deal and is guaranteed more than the contract is worth????

I don't think the $72.2M is new money. The difference between the $72.2M and the $52.235M or w/e at signing is the new money to total $72.2M.

FloridaMan88 03-23-2022 03:04 PM
Veach informed or gave a heads up to Mahomes before executing this trade, yes?

DaFace 03-23-2022 03:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16210042)
Maybe I'm reading this wrong and bad at math but he signed a $120M deal and is guaranteed more than the contract is worth????

I don't think the $72.2M is new money. The difference between the $72.2M and the $52.235M or w/e at signing is the new money to total $72.2M.
Yeah, I deleted it after digging around a bit. It's super confusing the way they wrote it, but I think you're right.

TEX 03-23-2022 03:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16210037)
If the Chiefs find a legit WR1 in this draft, everything else will be gravy in terms of the trade.
I get your point in theory at least. But he still won't be able to do what Reek can.

staylor26 03-23-2022 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16210041)
If we win the super bowl next year let alone a stacked AFC West Veach deserves a guaranteed contract for life
If they even win the division still, just build him a statue.

I mean, if this isn’t going to hurt us short term like we expect, it’s a huge win.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-23-2022 03:05 PM
I didn't believe it when my friend at work told me. I was very upset and didn't believe it. So very sad.

ThaVirus 03-23-2022 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BF88 (Post 16209992)
Does anyone actually think Tyreke has the maturity to play in a place like Miami? Let’s face it, he’s gonna get in some kind of trouble there sooner or later.

He behaved here because Reid was on his ass and well let’s face it, it’s easier to focus on football in Kansas City than freaking Miami or LA or somewhere like that.
You don't know shit about Tyreek Hill's personal life, bro.

Shields68 03-23-2022 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16210010)
Dude, the ENTIRETY of his contract is guaranteed in the first two years - $50M now and $70M this time next year.

Unless they cut him and take a massive cap hit after 2022, they're on the hook.

It's not hard to understand.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/03/23/ty...dam%20Schefter.

Quote:
Miami and Hill have reportedly agreed to a four-year extension, worth up to $120 million and $72.2 million guaranteed, per ESPN’s Adam Schefter. However, the contract includes an extra non-guaranteed year, meaning the extension is technically a three-year extension worth $75 million, according to NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero.
So the 3 years guaranteed at about 75 million and a 4th non guaranteed year

RunKC 03-23-2022 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16210018)
I also don't understand pushing part of Frank Clark's dead money into next year if your whole goal is to save money for the future. All these moves make no sense in combination with each other.
The Chiefs gave up high picks for Frank Clark and used money on FA’s like Sammy and Tyrann. They won a SB and then got to another. That window is done.

They had no choice but to trade a 1st for a solid LT bc they were forced too due to injury.

The Chiefs have A LOT of needs whether Tyreek stayed or left. Look at this team dude. Who is worse than us at DE and corner? It had to be done.

Now they have a lot of picks in a draft that’s deep at edge, receiver and corner. All those players are cheap. And they can now have money to be active in FA.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-23-2022 03:06 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here are the statements from Brett Veach &amp; Andy Reid through the Chiefs on the Tyreek Hill trade. <a href="https://t.co/8WxTmyHW4D">pic.twitter.com/8WxTmyHW4D</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1506733611919286279?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

In58men 03-23-2022 03:07 PM
I’m gonna let this one play out before I pass judgement.

Time to get younger.

Mecca 03-23-2022 03:07 PM
At the end of the day, winning makes guys hungry for money, we need to shed some of these fat highly paid hogs off this team.

Baby Lee 03-23-2022 03:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16209983)
Should’ve known this was all about Mahomes and Alex for you.

JFC man get over it.
Do people have absolutely no capacity to read plain English?

Absolutely reeruned response.

The point was about htis' allegations of 'levels of vitriol.'

I responded I was fan-positive throughout and not vitriolic to the naysayers, while the same can't be said of flip-side, who hated optimism when they weren't optimistic, and hated any criticism when they were optimistic.

Fishels 03-23-2022 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16210013)
Calling someone greedy for wanting more money is the dumbest ****ing thing imaginable. We all want more money.
No it’s not the dumbest thing imaginable. If that’s the case then Mahomes needs to get out his contract now and find someone who will pay him 600 million. At a certain point the quest for money ends unless you’re trying to buy property on the moon.

This is a forum about football. And winning games. Tyreek took more money when he’s already filthy and abundantly rich over winning more. That’s the bottom line. I personally call that greedy because he doesn’t really NEED the money and is insanely rich already and would continue to be so. (Unless his choices are that poor)

In fact I could argue winning more is better in the long term. More wins equals even more commercials endorsements and deals

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-23-2022 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16210064)
At the end of the day, winning makes guys hungry for money, we need to shed some of these fat highly paid hogs off this team.
Chris Jones next up

TEX 03-23-2022 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16210041)
If we win the super bowl next year let alone a stacked AFC West Veach deserves a guaranteed contract for life
Chiefs won't win the West next season. Too much ground lost. Everyone else got better, KC got worse. Too much ground lost.They'll have to find a new ways to win..

Mecca 03-23-2022 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 16210068)
No it’s not the dumbest thing imaginable. If that’s the case then Mahomes needs to get out his contract now and find someone who will pay him 600 million. At a certain point the quest for money ends unless you’re trying to buy property on the moon.

This is forum about football. And winning games. Tyreek took more money when he’s already filthy and abundantly rich over winning more. That’s the bottom line. I personally call that greedy because he doesn’t really NEED the money and is insanely rich already and would continue to be so.
By NFL standards for what the Chiefs got from Tyreek, they paid him peanuts.

-King- 03-23-2022 03:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 16210058)
https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/03/23/ty...dam%20Schefter.



So the 3 years guaranteed at about 75 million and a 4th non guaranteed year
Too expensive for Veach I guess. Would anyone else not make this deal?

Baby Lee 03-23-2022 03:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16210059)
Look at this team dude. Who is worse than us at DE and corner? It had to be done.
I KNEW IT!! You still want Alex's babies in you!!

#CP reeruns

BF88 03-23-2022 03:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16210056)
You don't know shit about Tyreek Hill's personal life, bro.
And you do? I know what’s been publicly documented throughout his entire career starting in college and yeah it’s not very pleasing.

Compare his off field behavior to someone like Mahomes and you think their even in the same universe? Hell no.

duncan_idaho 03-23-2022 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16209963)
Would you rather have Hill or have Ronald Jones, Clowney and Marquez Valdes-Scantling?
Better list:

Hill or

Jadeveon Clowney, Kyzir White, James Bradberry, (and maybe a WR, too) in free agency +
A badass DE (Sam Williams) and a badass DT (Travis Jones or Devonte Wyatt)

-King- 03-23-2022 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16210063)
I’m gonna let this one play out before I pass judgement.

Time to get younger.
He just turned 28 three weeks ago ROFL

jd1020 03-23-2022 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16210076)
Too expensive for Veach I guess. Would anyone else not make this deal?
$25M/yr for a WR or 5 picks?

We'll see what the picks are but that's a shit load of picks for a WR.

TEX 03-23-2022 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16210062)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here are the statements from Brett Veach &amp; Andy Reid through the Chiefs on the Tyreek Hill trade. <a href="https://t.co/8WxTmyHW4D">pic.twitter.com/8WxTmyHW4D</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1506733611919286279?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
BIG MISTAKE...:shake:

BF88 03-23-2022 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16209996)
Stfu
Why don’t you try and make me?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-23-2022 03:11 PM
I’m glad we’re paying Chris Jones 30 mil this year tho!!

RunKC 03-23-2022 03:11 PM
Look at the Jared Allen trade. We got rid of him and ended up with Branden Albert, Brandon Flowers, Jamaal Charles and Brandon Carr.

We have more ammo in the first 3 rds than we did then. Imagine what that would do for us the next 4 years talent and money wise?

-King- 03-23-2022 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16210059)
The Chiefs gave up high picks for Frank Clark and used money on FA’s like Sammy and Tyrann. They won a SB and then got to another. That window is done.

They had no choice but to trade a 1st for a solid LT bc they were forced too due to injury.

The Chiefs have A LOT of needs whether Tyreek stayed or left. Look at this team dude. Who is worse than us at DE and corner? It had to be done.

Now they have a lot of picks in a draft that’s deep at edge, receiver and corner. All those players are cheap. And they can now have money to be active in FA.
Man good thing there are all those great players left in FA!! Did this trade right on time!

Mecca 03-23-2022 03:11 PM
Paying guys like Clark and Jones and Joe Thuney mixed with an explosion in WR salary led to this perfect storm.

DJ's left nut 03-23-2022 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 16209924)
Yall are in the same boat as the Packers... QB has all the money and the Bigtime WR has to go.
And y'all are in the same boat as the 2017 Kansas City Chiefs.

A 2 damn nice pass catchers and a QB just good enough to get you beat when it matters.

Guess who's side I'd rather be on?

DaFace 03-23-2022 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BF88 (Post 16210087)
Why don’t you try and make me?
ROFL

Apparently we've now reached third grade.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-23-2022 03:12 PM
We can cut CJ after this season and save 20 mil

Red Dawg 03-23-2022 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16210086)
BIG MISTAKE...:shake:
No. Unfortunate circumstance but not a mistake.

ThaVirus 03-23-2022 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BF88 (Post 16210078)
And you do?
No, and that's why I'm not on the internet making stupid ass comments about his future.

Fishels 03-23-2022 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16210074)
By NFL standards for what the Chiefs got from Tyreek, they paid him peanuts.
They got it from him as a team. Just a reminder. But yes of course I’m greatful for his contribution. Tyreek is about to get paid to do nothing when passes are flying 3 feet behind him haha. So technically that might make it even greedier but I won’t go there for now :p

Mecca 03-23-2022 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 16210101)
They got it from him as a team. Just a reminder. But yes of course I’m greatful for his contribution. Tyreek is about to get paid to do nothing when passes are flying 3 feet behind him haha. So technically that might make it even greedier but I won’t go there for now :p
I'm not gonna begrudge a dude for getting his 1 payday.

TEX 03-23-2022 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16210092)
Paying guys like Clark and Jones and Joe Thuney mixed with an explosion in WR salary led to this perfect storm.
But Reek was still under contract. KC should have played it out and dealt with it next year.

Sassy Squatch 03-23-2022 03:14 PM
Veach actually let 2 teams IN THE SAME ****ING DIVISION dictate terms to him.

Jets: yeah, we know the Dolphins can't offer you shit so how about our day 2 picks and you can throw in your compensatory 3rd with Hill, because **** you.

Veach could've told them both to **** off unless they come back with better offers. Could've told Hill sorry, but we've got you for essentially 3 more years. Nah, let's just agree to dogshit offers a full month before the draft and let Hill decide. ****ing clown shit by Veach today. Let himself get fleeced by Joe Douglas and Chris Grier. Embarrassing

ForeverIowan 03-23-2022 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16210073)
Chiefs won't win the West next season. Too much ground lost. Everyone else got better, KC got worse. Too much ground lost.They'll have to find a new ways to win..
Stop with your debbie downer attitude and stop being such a little bitch! Mahomes is 21-3 against the AFC West. He has absolutely owned the division. Lets wait and see what Veach does in the remainder of the offseason. A lot of moves still to be made.

Mecca 03-23-2022 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16210108)
But Reek was still under contract. KC should have played it out and dealt with it next year.
To be real honest here, with Mahomes we really shouldn't be setting the contract market at other positions.

dirk digler 03-23-2022 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16210080)
Better list:

Hill or

Jadeveon Clowney, Kyzir White, James Bradberry, (and maybe a WR, too) in free agency +
A badass DE (Sam Williams) and a badass DT (Travis Jones or Devonte Wyatt)
Hill without any question

3 average players and 2 prospects vs a generational HOF player in his prime

htismaqe 03-23-2022 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16210108)
But Reek was still under contract. KC should have played it out and dealt with it next year.
He was counting $21M against this year's cap and was refusing to restructure for almost a year.

Playing it out really wasn't an option as we can now see.

BF88 03-23-2022 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16210100)
No, and that's why I'm not on the internet making stupid ass comments about his future.
Again I’m basing comments on facts that are publicly available.

I don’t give a shit about your opinion, come to me with actual facts or STFU


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