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Buehler445 09-21-2023 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17121746)
Nick Bolton is a strong man.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Bolton mashed David Montgomery into a fine paste THEN got him flagged 15 yards for tripping <a href="https://t.co/DWpNn6EMH9">pic.twitter.com/DWpNn6EMH9</a></p>&mdash; Christian D&#39;Andrea (@TrainIsland) <a href="https://twitter.com/TrainIsland/status/1699974827967136229?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Still can’t get over Nick Bolton rag-dolling Penei Sewell, who is 6 inches taller and 100 pounds heavier. <a href="https://t.co/aFtyC38b8t">pic.twitter.com/aFtyC38b8t</a></p>&mdash; Adam Best (@Arrowhead_Adam) <a href="https://twitter.com/Arrowhead_Adam/status/1700254951057052028?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Holy shit.

I don't know if he can actually beat up Sewell, but by God he believes he can.

PSA: Don't **** with Bolton. ****ing Christ.

DJ's left nut 09-21-2023 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17121819)
Holy shit.

I don't know if he can actually beat up Sewell, but by God he believes he can.

PSA: Don't **** with Bolton. ****ing Christ.

That looked like a real not fun time.

Get punked by a dude you have 100 lbs on, stand up thinking you're gonna bow up on him and he's happy to stand chest to chest with you. Then his bigger, crazier brother gets in your grill as well.

Yeah, it's time to live to fight another day at that point. Bolton vs Sewell might be interesting. Sewell vs Bolton AND Gay? That's a bloooooooodbath.

Buehler445 09-21-2023 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17121829)
That looked like a real not fun time.

Get punked by a dude you have 100 lbs on, stand up thinking you're gonna bow up on him and he's happy to stand chest to chest with you. Then his bigger, crazier brother gets in your grill as well.

Yeah, it's time to live to fight another day at that point. Bolton vs Sewell might be interesting. Sewell vs Bolton AND Gay? That's a bloooooooodbath.

Agreed. Somehow I missed all this Sewell stuff in the game. I watched him beat Montgomery like a rented mule, but missed the Sewell stuff.

Oh yeah, Sewell better make his peace if he throws down with both those dudes. Gay was on his ass before he even bowed up to Bolton. And hell, from the looks of the scrum, Bolton may not have needed any help.

All this reminds me that I'm a giant ****ing pussy. ROFL

O.city 09-21-2023 12:08 PM

So Bolton can probably come ask for what Roquan Smith got right?

Everyone good with that?

BossChief 09-21-2023 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17121858)
So Bolton can probably come ask for what Roquan Smith got right?

Everyone good with that?

I don’t think Bolton is that guy in terms of forcing his way out to a place with the bag.

I think he’s a guy you extend early with a Snith type extention added to the end of his rookie deal so you get him paid while also getting ahead of contract inflation.

ThaVirus 09-21-2023 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17121863)
I don’t think Bolton is that guy in terms of forcing his way out to a place with the bag.

What makes you think that?

MIAdragon 09-21-2023 12:26 PM

Can middle age white guys stop referring to salary/pay as “bag” it’s embarrassing.

AdolfOliverBush 09-21-2023 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 17121896)
Can middle age white guys everyone stop referring to salary/pay as “bag” it’s embarrassing.

FYP

ToxSocks 09-21-2023 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 17121896)
Can middle age white guys stop referring to salary/pay as “bag” it’s embarrassing.

No cap!

raybec 4 09-21-2023 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17121863)
I don’t think Bolton is that guy in terms of forcing his way out to a place with the bag.

I think he’s a guy you extend early with a Snith type extention added to the end of his rookie deal so you get him paid while also getting ahead of contract inflation.

Everyone always says this. These guys have very short careers and all want to maximize their earning potential. I can't beleve how many times we hear every offseason "If _____ wants to win they'll take less to play with Mahomes." No one takes less unless they are already set with other streams of income. Bolton will want as much as he can get just like everyone else.

suzzer99 09-21-2023 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17121913)
Everyone always says this. These guys have very short careers and all want to maximize their earning potential. I can't beleve how many times we hear every offseason "If _____ wants to win they'll take less to play with Mahomes." No one takes less unless they are already set with other streams of income. Bolton will want as much as he can get just like everyone else.

They also have wildly different situations. Mahomes grew up (assuming) upper middle class as the son of a journeyman major-leaguer. He might not have many close or extended family members that are living in poverty or barely getting by.

Another player might have a giant family, all of them expecting him to stabilize them financially.

This article really opened my eyes to what osme of these players are going through. Just heartbreaking. https://www.theplayerstribune.com/po...h-nfl-football

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Then, when you go off to college, everything will snowball fast. While you’re doing your thing at North Carolina A&T, Tyrell and Dante are both going to drop out of school. It’s going to eat at you when you’re older. The guilt. The knowledge that if you’d been around, you never would’ve let them drop out. Once they do, though, run-ins with the law are going to become common — fighting, stealing Jordans, weed. You’ll try to send home what little money you have, hoping it will stop them from stealing, but it won’t.

You’ll try tough love. You’ll try the opposite. You’ll try … everything.

When you reach your wits’ end, and can’t think of anything else to do, you’re going to sit them down and … I don’t want to say beg them, but, like … you’re basically going to plead with them.

“Just give me a little more time. Lay low. Don’t get in any big trouble for a bit more, and I’ll make everything right for all of us once I get to the league. I got y’all. I promise. I’ll buy you all the Jordans you want. Just give me a few years.”

The thing is: You won’t have a few years.
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When you sign that first contract, it’s going to feel like a huge weight being lifted off your shoulders. The day before your signing bonus hits, you won’t have a cent to your name. In fact, it’ll be even worse than that. You’ll be in the red. You’ll even take a screenshot to remember it.
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It’s not going to last, though. The money won’t even be enough to buy a place in Chicago for yourself, much less set up your whole family. And your brother Dante, when he realizes that it won’t all of a sudden be Easy Street for him with you in the league … he’s gonna feel that. He’ll be 18 at that point, and he’ll start hearing it from his friends.

Your brother’s in the NFL, why aren’t you driving a Benz? Why are you still wearing those old-ass sneakers? Why can’t you pick up the tab?

He’s going to respond by diving headfirst into drug dealing. And it’s not just going to be a little thing on the side anymore, Tarik. It’ll be serious dealing. Hard drugs. Real volume. Lots of money changing hands.

Mom evicted from different places because of weed smell, noise violations, police visits, you name it.

By that point, you’ll be playing a ton for the Bears and putting up numbers — rushing, receiving, returns, even throwing passes for TDs. You’ll be all over SportsCenter. People will be adding you to their fantasy teams like crazy.

But you’ll also be living in a rented apartment on the outskirts of Chicago and sending money home to Mom after the latest eviction notice, so she can rent a new house.
Cohen blew out his knee in 2020, luckily for him after he got paid. He has no stats since then, but reportedly this week is in talks to sign on the Panthers practice squad.

Sassy Squatch 09-21-2023 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 17121896)
Can middle age white guys stop referring to salary/pay as “bag” it’s embarrassing.

All fax no printer

Direckshun 09-21-2023 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17121858)
So Bolton can probably come ask for what Roquan Smith got right?

Everyone good with that?

If he does, he's not a Chief.

ReynardMuldrake 09-21-2023 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17121966)
All fax no printer

Unless you're Denver, and your players get cut because your fax machine is busted.

Perineum Ripper 09-21-2023 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17121909)
No cap!


Shit is wack

Hammock Parties 09-21-2023 03:01 PM

Bolton is not work breaking the bank on with Chenal AND a cheaper option in Tranquill on the roster.

Both can play MLB for this team, and I wouldn't sleep on Cole Christiansen.

Prepare to say goodbye to Big Dick Nick.

RealSNR 09-21-2023 03:43 PM

I’m really not seeing what some of you are with Tranquil. He wouldn’t make a good Bolton replacement.

notorious 09-21-2023 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17122217)
I’m really not seeing what some of you are with Tranquil. He wouldn’t make a good Bolton replacement.

Nobody can.

He's a BAMF

DJ's left nut 09-21-2023 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17122217)
I’m really not seeing what some of you are with Tranquil. He wouldn’t make a good Bolton replacement.

He's a perfect complement to Bolton.

He's by no means a replacement. If anything he's a replacement for Gay as a sort of Will backer.

He's not a 3-down Mike.

Easy 6 09-21-2023 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17122217)
I’m really not seeing what some of you are with Tranquil. He wouldn’t make a good Bolton replacement.

Yeah he's more of a coverage backer, Boltons more of a run thumper

GingaChief 01-28-2024 05:20 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watch the hidden brilliance of NFL football. <br><br>Chiefs linebacker Nick Bolton alerts his defense it’s a screen before it happens. <br><br>Bolton must know the Ravens audibles, because the moment Lamar checks, Bolton checks… <a href="https://t.co/1WQB35IQnV">pic.twitter.com/1WQB35IQnV</a></p>&mdash; Emmanuel Acho (@EmmanuelAcho) <a href="https://twitter.com/EmmanuelAcho/status/1751713734043787390?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pitt Gorilla 01-28-2024 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GingaChief (Post 17371277)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watch the hidden brilliance of NFL football. <br><br>Chiefs linebacker Nick Bolton alerts his defense it’s a screen before it happens. <br><br>Bolton must know the Ravens audibles, because the moment Lamar checks, Bolton checks… <a href="https://t.co/1WQB35IQnV">pic.twitter.com/1WQB35IQnV</a></p>&mdash; Emmanuel Acho (@EmmanuelAcho) <a href="https://twitter.com/EmmanuelAcho/status/1751713734043787390?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bolton is SOOOO good.

Cheater5 01-28-2024 05:32 PM

We’re keeping Bolton, Tranquil, Sneed….And Jones.


Mark my words

Sofa King 01-29-2024 08:15 PM

https://scontent.ffsd2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...XQ&oe=65BCF7EA

Hey Nick, WHAT ARE THOSE!! LMAO

Dude could swim the 100 meters in 1 kick. He looks like he's taking the ring to Mordor. His shoe maker takes measurements, swaps the numbers and builds his shoes sideways.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-29-2024 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 17371429)
We’re keeping Bolton, Tranquil, Sneed….And Jones.


Mark my words

This is actually really possible, however we have to cut MVS and not sign a big FA WR which is okay with. Rice is the #1, draft a couple WRs in the draft and let’s roll

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-29-2024 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 17375919)
https://scontent.ffsd2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...XQ&oe=65BCF7EA
Hey Nick, WHAT ARE THOSE!! LMAO

Dude could swim the 100 meters in 1 kick. He looks like he's taking the ring to Mordor. His shoe maker takes measurements, swaps the numbers and builds his shoes sideways.

What the **** is up with those feet?

IA_Chiefs_fan 01-29-2024 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17375950)
What the **** is up with those feet?

Jesus Christ. That's crazy.

MVChiefFan 01-29-2024 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 17375919)
https://scontent.ffsd2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...XQ&oe=65BCF7EA

Hey Nick, WHAT ARE THOSE!! LMAO

Dude could swim the 100 meters in 1 kick. He looks like he's taking the ring to Mordor. His shoe maker takes measurements, swaps the numbers and builds his shoes sideways.

ROFL I’m literally dying! Tom Dempsey’s half shoe would fit Bolton perfectly! He could swing that sledgehammer for 60-yard FG’s all day long!

Fish 01-29-2024 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17375950)
What the **** is up with those feet?

He's got Hulk feet!

el borracho 01-29-2024 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 17375919)

AI is getting so good these days. Still messes up the hands and the feet, though.

seamonster 01-30-2024 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17375950)
What the **** is up with those feet?

Looks like ankle tendonitis...

<a href="https://drmuroffpodiatry.com/helping-you-beat-ankle-tendonitis/">Picture of Ankle Tendonitis</a>

I got this four months before basic training and couldn't shake it. Had to go through basic with my foot ballooning out of my shoe. Took eight or nine months to get over it. Part of that was I was young and stupid and didn't understand the magic of naproxin sodium and ice.

smithandrew051 02-11-2024 10:25 PM

13 tackles, 1 TFL, and 2 QB Hits.

He’s a Super Bowl LB.

el borracho 02-11-2024 10:34 PM

Would have liked that interception to start OT but, yeah, dude is great!

Lol, I wonder if his hands look like his feet.

alpha_omega 06-07-2024 10:50 AM

https://ddc1.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws....%3D/header.jpg

RunKC 08-08-2024 10:29 AM

Werner $8.3 million APY just signed. Logan Wilson $9 million APY. If Bolton wants anywhere from $9-10 million APy fine. More than that? **** off

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Saints?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Saints</a> have locked in a young core piece of their defense, signing LB Pete Werner to a 3-year deal worth more than $25M with $17.5M guaranteed, source says. <a href="https://t.co/VHTPq9PXuj">pic.twitter.com/VHTPq9PXuj</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1821566588014780590?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RealSNR 08-08-2024 10:56 AM

What the **** is a Pete Weiner?

New World Order 08-08-2024 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17621448)
What the **** is a Pete Weiner?

I think he's the guy from New York who showed his weiner online

RealSNR 08-08-2024 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17621455)
I think he's the guy from New York who showed his weiner online

If you translate his name into English from the original German, it means "Penis Penis"

RunKC 01-30-2025 12:06 PM

Sounds like they want to know what the numbers will be and if they can structure a contract to make it work.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� BREAKING ��<br><br>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are expected to discuss a potential extension with Nick Bolton after the season.<br><br>But Kansas City might not prioritise a deal with the linebacker as the team has many players to pay.<br><br>Per, <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JFowlerESPN</a>. <a href="https://t.co/DWN2PHO1ms">pic.twitter.com/DWN2PHO1ms</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1885009293528707527?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wisconsin_Chief 01-30-2025 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17621421)
Werner $8.3 million APY just signed. Logan Wilson $9 million APY. If Bolton wants anywhere from $9-10 million APy fine. More than that? **** off

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Saints?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Saints</a> have locked in a young core piece of their defense, signing LB Pete Werner to a 3-year deal worth more than $25M with $17.5M guaranteed, source says. <a href="https://t.co/VHTPq9PXuj">pic.twitter.com/VHTPq9PXuj</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1821566588014780590?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If they can keep him for this kind of deal, I'm all in. That's more than reasonable.

Sassy Squatch 01-30-2025 12:42 PM

Shifting back towards signing him long term with this shift to focusing on running the ball more, especially amongst the top contenders year to year.

suzzer99 01-30-2025 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17945181)
Sounds like they want to know what the numbers will be and if they can structure a contract to make it work.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� BREAKING ��<br><br>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are expected to discuss a potential extension with Nick Bolton after the season.<br><br>But Kansas City might not prioritise a deal with the linebacker as the team has many players to pay.<br><br>Per, <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JFowlerESPN</a>. <a href="https://t.co/DWN2PHO1ms">pic.twitter.com/DWN2PHO1ms</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1885009293528707527?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BREAKING: All of the possible things can happen and we're not sure which one will happen. Stay tuned for more breaking news.

Titty Meat 01-30-2025 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17945181)
Sounds like they want to know what the numbers will be and if they can structure a contract to make it work.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� BREAKING ��<br><br>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are expected to discuss a potential extension with Nick Bolton after the season.<br><br>But Kansas City might not prioritise a deal with the linebacker as the team has many players to pay.<br><br>Per, <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JFowlerESPN</a>. <a href="https://t.co/DWN2PHO1ms">pic.twitter.com/DWN2PHO1ms</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1885009293528707527?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damn if that ain't an Adam Teichner type of response

Pitt Gorilla 01-30-2025 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17621421)
Werner $8.3 million APY just signed. Logan Wilson $9 million APY. If Bolton wants anywhere from $9-10 million APy fine. More than that? **** off

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Saints?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Saints</a> have locked in a young core piece of their defense, signing LB Pete Werner to a 3-year deal worth more than $25M with $17.5M guaranteed, source says. <a href="https://t.co/VHTPq9PXuj">pic.twitter.com/VHTPq9PXuj</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1821566588014780590?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Something like that would be outstanding.

htismaqe 01-30-2025 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17945229)
Shifting back towards signing him long term with this shift to focusing on running the ball more, especially amongst the top contenders year to year.

I agree. You can always surround him with speed but his brains are invaluable to this defense.

tredadda 01-30-2025 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17945334)
I agree. You can always surround him with speed but his brains are invaluable to this defense.

That’s what Spags loves so much about him.

RunKC 01-30-2025 01:57 PM

Yeah he’s gonna want at least $14-15 million APY. The problem for him is that he’s never been a pro bowler or all pro so his argument isn’t exactly strong.

I think you stick to a hard line of $14-15 million APY with a backloaded structured contract that allows you to make the cap hits lower the first 2-3 years then have a way out when he gets expensive.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-30-2025 02:07 PM

I've been noticing a lot lately that we are one of the only defenses who can consistently audible to an offense's audible. We go check for check at the LOS a ton and that's gotta be a Bolton thing on some level.

That makes him worth more than just the $9-10M you'd probably pay him as a player. They gotta find the line somewhere, it isn't $20M. But he's worth more than $10M.

DJ's left nut 01-30-2025 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17945354)
Yeah he’s gonna want at least $14-15 million APY. The problem for him is that he’s never been a pro bowler or all pro so his argument isn’t exactly strong.

I think you stick to a hard line of $14-15 million APY with a backloaded structured contract that allows you to make the cap hits lower the first 2-3 years then have a way out when he gets expensive.

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17945365)
I've been noticing a lot lately that we are one of the only defenses who can consistently audible to an offense's audible. We go check for check at the LOS a ton and that's gotta be a Bolton thing on some level.

That makes him worth more than just the $9-10M you'd probably pay him as a player. They gotta find the line somewhere, it isn't $20M. But he's worth more than $10M.

4/$60 million just seems like an easy sweet spot. You guarantee $40 million of that over the first 3 years, final year base of $20 million is unguaranteed.

But the reason I get a little wary here is that if it's THAT easy...why hasn't it gotten done? Bolton wants to stay here, Spags obviously wants to keep him. If it's as easy as I think it should be - why hasn't it gotten done by now?

He's more valuable to this team than he is any other team in football, IMO. It would be a disservice to both player AND team for him to leave because someone is offering him $17 million/season.

Which makes me wonder if he doesn't think someone may be willing to offer him $20 million. Or maybe if we have only offered him $12 million. Something has to be creating the disconnect. It can't be as easy as I think it is.

notorious 01-30-2025 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17945334)
I agree. You can always surround him with speed but his brains are invaluable to this defense.

Best instincts I have ever seen from a Chiefs defender.

TheGuardian 01-30-2025 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17945340)
That’s what Spags loves so much about him.

Yup. Spags has said many times that Nick is the single smartest player that he's ever coached. He's been a huge part of why the defense has made such great adjustments in games.

So I think for that alone he needs to come back, and again, someone told me as long as Spags is here that there will be a big push to keep Nick.

I know you can replace him with a guy that is a better athlete but man, the dude literally makes in game adjustments and it's why the defense gets better every quarter.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-30-2025 03:29 PM

I told y'all.

He's the reason Spags can run his defense the way he wants to. Do you really want to give that up?

RunKC 01-30-2025 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17945538)
Yup. Spags has said many times that Nick is the single smartest player that he's ever coached. He's been a huge part of why the defense has made such great adjustments in games.

So I think for that alone he needs to come back, and again, someone told me as long as Spags is here that there will be a big push to keep Nick.

I know you can replace him with a guy that is a better athlete but man, the dude literally makes in game adjustments and it's why the defense gets better every quarter.

Mentioned this before but I went to the first Texans game and every snap Nick was talking to the defense relaying information. He wa basically tipping guys on what play was coming and which way it was coming.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-30-2025 03:29 PM

I imagine Spagnuolo feels he's the best extension of his own brain on the field since at least Antonio Pierce.

No, he isn't going to wanna let that go.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-30-2025 03:30 PM

Wasn't it the Super Bowl last year when Spags credited Nick for wanting to run the McDuffie pressure on 3rd-and-4 that effectively got us the stop we needed to give the ball back to Mahomes?

DJ's left nut 01-30-2025 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17945552)
I imagine Spagnuolo feels he's the best extension of his own brain on the field since at least Antonio Pierce.

No, he isn't going to wanna let that go.

that's why I think it would be such a bummer for him to leave.

Spags doesn't just benefit from Bolton, Bolton benefits from being in such perfect harmony with his DC.

They just work REALLY well together.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-30-2025 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17945554)
Wasn't it the Super Bowl last year when Spags credited Nick for wanting to run the McDuffie pressure on 3rd-and-4 that effectively got us the stop we needed to give the ball back to Mahomes?

He asked Bolton on the field about the corner blitz and looked directly at him waiting for the response. Bolton immediately felt good about the call and wanted to run it. Spags heavily based that decision on how Bolton felt about it, he had that much confidence in Bolton's opinion.

chiefforlife 01-30-2025 05:08 PM

If I recall, we didnt think we could keep Gay but then were shocked at what he signed for. Like way less than we thought he would get.

Maybe Bolton saw that too? I am all for paying the man for what he has accomplished and will continue to but like someone else said, he is far more valuable here than he would be to another team.

There is value in that, Bolton is smart enough to know that.

Fingers crossed.

RedinTexas 01-30-2025 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 17945706)
If I recall, we didnt think we could keep Gay but then were shocked at what he signed for. Like way less than we thought he would get.

Maybe Bolton saw that too? I am all for paying the man for what he has accomplished and will continue to but like someone else said, he is far more valuable here than he would be to another team.

There is value in that, Bolton is smart enough to know that.

Fingers crossed.

Unless Spags gets a job as a head coach and comes after Bolton.

TheGuardian 01-30-2025 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17945550)
Mentioned this before but I went to the first Texans game and every snap Nick was talking to the defense relaying information. He wa basically tipping guys on what play was coming and which way it was coming.

There's a MIC'd up, I can't remember which one, and Spas is actually asking Bolton what it is he thinks on the next play call. And Nick tells him, and then he calls it perfect.

It's almost like we have two Spags with Bolton. If he had the athletic ability of a Fred Warner he'd literally be the next Ray Lewis.

TheGuardian 01-30-2025 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17945554)
Wasn't it the Super Bowl last year when Spags credited Nick for wanting to run the McDuffie pressure on 3rd-and-4 that effectively got us the stop we needed to give the ball back to Mahomes?

YESSS!!! THAT WAS IT!!!!

He asked Nick what he thought and Nick called it.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-30-2025 06:18 PM

Bolton's gonna show up again in the Super Bowl. I'm calling my shot. He's gonna have a big game.

DJ's left nut 01-30-2025 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17945810)
Bolton's gonna show up again in the Super Bowl. I'm calling my shot. He's gonna have a big game.

It's a perfect game for him to show out.

Philly is gonna wanna run the ball and he's going to need to have his guys lined up and gap sound while finishing the plays and taking on blockers to deal with this run game.

He might be fantastic.

He probably needs to be.

TheGuardian 01-30-2025 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17945813)
It's a perfect game for him to show out.

Philly is gonna wanna run the ball and he's going to need to have his guys lined up and gap sound while finishing the plays and taking on blockers to deal with this run game.

He might be fantastic.

He probably needs to be.

Yup. If there was ever a game meant for him it's this one.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-30-2025 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17945813)
It's a perfect game for him to show out.

Philly is gonna wanna run the ball and he's going to need to have his guys lined up and gap sound while finishing the plays and taking on blockers to deal with this run game.

He might be fantastic.

He probably needs to be.

If it wasn't for him, I'd be extremely worried about Barkley and the whole Eagles offense. I think he's that important.

htismaqe 01-31-2025 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17945737)
Unless Spags gets a job as a head coach and comes after Bolton.

Spags isn't getting a HC job. Not this cycle at least.

DJ's left nut 01-31-2025 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17945905)
If it wasn't for him, I'd be extremely worried about Barkley and the whole Eagles offense. I think he's that important.

The league is coming back towards his style of play.

It won't be wholesale -- this isn't going to be 80s/90s football where teams are routinely winning championships with dominant running games.

But there ARE teams - more and more of them- that are going to try to win games with their running game. We have one in the West in LAC and probably another with Pete Carroll.

Bolton may actually be a bit undervalued going forward if this trend continues. And man, it is SO easy to find another LB to run alongside him and cover some of those weaknesses in space.

DJ's left nut 01-31-2025 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17946171)
Spags isn't getting a HC job. Not this cycle at least.

Yeah, my memory is that his year in NOLA ended poorly and the same folks are still running that shop.

He ain't going to NOLA.

htismaqe 01-31-2025 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17946186)
Yeah, my memory is that his year in NOLA ended poorly and the same folks are still running that shop.

He ain't going to NOLA.

Yeah, they fired him after one year. They fielded the worst defense in the NFL and one of the worst in NFL history.

Wallcrawler 01-31-2025 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17946188)
Yeah, they fired him after one year. They fielded the worst defense in the NFL and one of the worst in NFL history.

The win now mentality is crippling these clubs and their quarterbacks. Lot of these kids barely grasp one offense and they're having to purge it and learn a new one with the new regime.

As hot of a commodity as Spags is, let's not forget his defense opened the first half of one of these seasons as an NFL historically bad defense. 100% red zone fail rate. It was ****ing abysmal. Pretty sure it was Boltons rookie year, but Spags had "his guys" out there instead of the talent. Fans actually started a go fund me to buy out Dan Soresons deal lmao.

Anyone running a complicated scheme that takes time for everyone to learn, nobody wants that shit. You win from the jump, or you hit the bricks.

If Spags does take an HC job, the ownership better have some grace, because it's going to get really ****ing ugly before it starts getting good.

RealSNR 01-31-2025 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17946239)
The win now mentality is crippling these clubs and their quarterbacks. Lot of these kids barely grasp one offense and they're having to purge it and learn a new one with the new regime.

As hot of a commodity as Spags is, let's not forget his defense opened the first half of one of these seasons as an NFL historically bad defense. 100% red zone fail rate. It was ****ing abysmal. Pretty sure it was Boltons rookie year, but Spags had "his guys" out there instead of the talent. Fans actually started a go fund me to buy out Dan Soresons deal lmao.

Anyone running a complicated scheme that takes time for everyone to learn, nobody wants that shit. You win from the jump, or you hit the bricks.

If Spags does take an HC job, the ownership better have some grace, because it's going to get really ****ing ugly before it starts getting good.


That was also the year Honey Badger transformed into Money Badger.

Sassy Squatch 01-31-2025 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17946184)
The league is coming back towards his style of play.

It won't be wholesale -- this isn't going to be 80s/90s football where teams are routinely winning championships with dominant running games.

But there ARE teams - more and more of them- that are going to try to win games with their running game. We have one in the West in LAC and probably another with Pete Carroll.

Bolton may actually be a bit undervalued going forward if this trend continues. And man, it is SO easy to find another LB to run alongside him and cover some of those weaknesses in space.

For me it's the fact that we're going to be seeing those teams every season in January and our own division.

Bills
Ravens
Lions
Eagles

Top seeds in the bracket this year, excluding the Chiefs of course, and they are all HEAVILY run dependent nowadays. Now, maybe the Bills will shift back the other way with another change in offensive philosophy, but the Ravens, Lions, and Eagles are built that way for the long haul.

RunKC 01-31-2025 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17946184)
The league is coming back towards his style of play.

It won't be wholesale -- this isn't going to be 80s/90s football where teams are routinely winning championships with dominant running games.

But there ARE teams - more and more of them- that are going to try to win games with their running game. We have one in the West in LAC and probably another with Pete Carroll.

Bolton may actually be a bit undervalued going forward if this trend continues. And man, it is SO easy to find another LB to run alongside him and cover some of those weaknesses in space.

Couldn’t this argument be emphasized with Leo Chenal? The guy is arguably the most vital player to our run defense. He’s destroying the running lanes allowing guys like Bolton to get unblocked.

Idk man I’m thinking we need to keep that guy somehow. He’s the strongest guy on the team and is extremely important to coverage schemes.

He’s pretty much a DL in a LB’s body. We are gonna put him on the DL to simulate a Bear front and he’s one of the most athletic LB’s in the league.

Feels like the run defense would take a massive hit losing him.

Smed1065 01-31-2025 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17945761)
There's a MIC'd up, I can't remember which one, and Spas is actually asking Bolton what it is he thinks on the next play call. And Nick tells him, and then he calls it perfect.

It's almost like we have two Spags with Bolton. If he had the athletic ability of a Fred Warner he'd literally be the next Ray Lewis.

Killing folks after the SB?

Pitt Gorilla 01-31-2025 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17946460)
Couldn’t this argument be emphasized with Leo Chenal? The guy is arguably the most vital player to our run defense. He’s destroying the running lanes allowing guys like Bolton to get unblocked.

Idk man I’m thinking we need to keep that guy somehow. He’s the strongest guy on the team and is extremely important to coverage schemes.

He’s pretty much a DL in a LB’s body. We are gonna put him on the DL to simulate a Bear front and he’s one of the most athletic LB’s in the league.

Feels like the run defense would take a massive hit losing him.

Absolutely. I'd certainly much rather keep Chanal than a guy like Tranquil.

DJ's left nut 01-31-2025 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17946460)
Couldn’t this argument be emphasized with Leo Chenal? The guy is arguably the most vital player to our run defense. He’s destroying the running lanes allowing guys like Bolton to get unblocked.

Idk man I’m thinking we need to keep that guy somehow. He’s the strongest guy on the team and is extremely important to coverage schemes.

He’s pretty much a DL in a LB’s body. We are gonna put him on the DL to simulate a Bear front and he’s one of the most athletic LB’s in the league.

Feels like the run defense would take a massive hit losing him.

Maybe.

But he ain't a pending FA just yet.

And, let's not overstate his impact either. Nick Bolton took 388 snaps in run defense this year.

Leo Chenal took 219. That's only 10 more than Mike Danna.

No, he's not the most important part of our run defense because he's not even on the field for half the carries we face. I'd like to try to keep him, absolutely.

But let's not act like he's even CLOSE to as important to this run defense as Nick Bolton is.

Smed1065 01-31-2025 07:38 PM

Recognizing and reactionary sometimes. Cant train that usually kinda like Patrick.

Straight, No Chaser 01-31-2025 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17945905)
If it wasn't for him, I'd be extremely worried about Barkley and the whole Eagles offense. I think he's that important.

Chefs can win, and win comfortably with Spags & Bolton having a day. Nick’s best game as a pro = three peat.

TheGuardian 01-31-2025 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065 (Post 17946519)
Killing folks after the SB?

LMAO LMAO

Wasn't that after the AFCCG tho?

Chargem 02-01-2025 03:42 AM

Still on the fence about Bolton. For all the "quarterback of the defense" talk, there was a pretty good sample size from last year with and without Bolton and the defense was as good without as with.

He also had a pretty rough start to the season that has now been forgotten, he got exploited in like 3 games towards the start of the year (definitely Ravens, I think Bengals and one other?).

Like others have said, probably just comes down to the money. I would like him to stick around but I really hope they don't overpay.


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