Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742325)

All stats are relevant. Not just the ones that fit your narrative.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14742319)

"Fit the narrative"?

Week 6 was a long time ago, mother****er. The KC defense has improved and coalesced over the course of the season. It's not like someone went and picked out certain games to "fit the narrative". We added Pennel and Suggs and shit changed. You're a ****ing dumbass if you don't understand that.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14742333)

See, here's the thing. What you're not understanding is this:

After last season's defensive shit-show, we blew it all up. Sent Houston and Ford and Day-to-Day Berry all packing. Hired an entire new staff, and switched the scheme entirely. On the fly.

So early in the year, they were still feeling out the scheme, and the staff is still identifying player's abilities and how to best utilize their strengths and neutralize their weaknesses. It's a culture change that hasn't taken hold yet.

Then there were the injuries. Frank Clark played the first half of the season unable to feel his hands. Chris Jones missed several games. We lost a starting DE, and then we lost his back-up. We had to play a rookie DT, and early on, he was getting whooped. But every week he got a little better.

The turnaround started against Denver, who'd won two straight and was running the ball well. We lost Mahomes early in that game, and we still smoked them with a guy who was coaching high school football a couple of weeks before.

The defense was getting it.

They shut down Dalvin Cook. It looked like they were on a roll, it was all clicking. Then they ran into Derrick Henry in week 10 (game 10) and were a little less disciplined and it cost them. Henry ran for 180 (like 68 on one play that was just a gap discipline issue) and we lost.

But the lesson was learned. And it has not happened since. Eight straight games. That's half a damned season.

And we grabbed Pennel mid-season. And we grabbed Suggs, who still has some gas left in the tank. And Clark is healthy. And a healthy Jones is the best interior lineman in the NFL not named Aaron Donald. And rookie Saunders knows what he's doing now. And Pennel is an immovable object. And Derrick Nnadi is tough too. And Kpassgnon had two sacks last week.

It was always going to take some time to install a new defense with like 8 new starters and have it perform well.

It took about half a season.

So yeah, looking at things the back half of the season is how you SHOULD view this defense.

I guarantee you Shanahan will.

If you don't, well, that's just you being stupid.

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742342)

Please rabble i beg you to relax. Your blood pressure will rose if you don’t.

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742213)

What are you talking about??? After the bye Falcons went 6-2. Which is when we played them. You guys played the colts in week 5. Colts were 3-2 at that time.

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14742350)

Who give a **** about the Colts game?

We are on an 8 game win streak. We have outscored teams during this winning streak 230 to 126.

Over the last 8 games, we are averaging 28.75 ppg and only giving up 15.75 ppg.

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14742332)

Yeah I agree. I was surprised to see their punt average was almost identical this year. I assumed it would be a big advantage for the 49ers.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14742343)

He's a smarmy ****ing prick, Chris.

Backhanded passive-aggressive bullshit.

**** him.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14742333)

See, here's the thing. What you're not understanding is this:

After last season's defensive shit-show, we blew it all up. Sent Houston and Ford and Day-to-Day Berry all packing. Hired an entire new staff, and switched the scheme entirely. On the fly.

So early in the year, they were still feeling out the scheme, and the staff is still identifying player's abilities and how to best utilize their strengths and neutralize their weaknesses. It's a culture change that hasn't taken hold yet.

Then there were the injuries. Frank Clark played the first half of the season unable to feel his hands. Chris Jones missed several games. We lost a starting DE, and then we lost his back-up. We had to play a rookie DT, and early on, he was getting whooped. But every week he got a little better.

The turnaround started against Denver, who'd won two straight and was running the ball well. We lost Mahomes early in that game, and we still smoked them with a guy who was coaching high school football a couple of weeks before.

The defense was getting it.

They shut down Dalvin Cook. It looked like they were on a roll, it was all clicking. Then they ran into Derrick Henry in week 10 (game 10) and were a little less disciplined and it cost them. Henry ran for 180 (like 68 on one play that was just a gap discipline issue) and we lost.

But the lesson was learned. And it has not happened since. Eight straight games. That's half a damned season.

And we grabbed Pennel mid-season. And we grabbed Suggs, who still has some gas left in the tank. And Clark is healthy. And a healthy Jones is the best interior lineman in the NFL not named Aaron Donald. And rookie Saunders knows what he's doing now. And Pennel is an immovable object. And Derrick Nnadi is tough too. And Kpassgnon had two sacks last week.

It was always going to take some time to install a new defense with like 8 new starters and have it perform well.

It took about half a season.

So yeah, looking at things the back half of the season is how you SHOULD view this defense.

I guarantee you Shanahan will.

If you don't, well, that's just you being stupid.

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 14742205)

How about that home loss to the FALCONS?

Wayyyy worse than us losing to the Colts at home, at least the Colts were playing well when we lost

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14742334)

Shut up, you smarmy bitch ass Rice-A-Roni eating pussy.

Go be a social justice warrior with all your stats somewhere else.

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742368)

Here’s the thing, nobody cares about those stats. It’s almost like you’re trying to convince yourself that you are this new and improved defense.

Personally I don’t care. Football is played in the field.

Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 14742388)

I like rice a roni

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742368)

Here’s the thing, nobody cares about those stats. It’s almost like you’re trying to convince yourself that you are this new and improved defense.

Personally I don’t care. Football is played in the field.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14742355)

well...yeah.

you know what he is?

he's what we used to be.

Before.

Before Patrick happened.

coming up with all these reasons why your team with your mediocre QB is going to beat the Best Quarterback in the Game.

We didn't want to listen either. We always had our reasons why were going to win, and shock the world.

And it never happened.

Only way they win if we monkey-**** it all away.

And they know it.

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742368)

Here’s the thing, nobody cares about those stats. It’s almost like you’re trying to convince yourself that you are this new and improved defense.

Personally I don’t care. Football is played in the field.

Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 14742388)

I like rice a roni

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742368)

Here’s the thing, nobody cares about those stats. It’s almost like you’re trying to convince yourself that you are this new and improved defense.

Personally I don’t care. Football is played in the field.

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742368)

Here’s the thing, nobody cares about those stats. It’s almost like you’re trying to convince yourself that you are this new and improved defense.

Personally I don’t care. Football is played in the field.

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742368)

Here’s the thing, nobody cares about those stats. It’s almost like you’re trying to convince yourself that you are this new and improved defense.

Personally I don’t care. Football is played in the field.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14742347)

**** you. I'm cool as a cucumber. My blood pressure is fine. Go eat some Rice-A-Roni and call someone a homophobe somewhere else.

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14742400)

"Rice a Roni - the San Franciso treat!"

I am boycotting this for the next two weeks. ;)

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742404)

Great to hear rabs. Dealing with people sometimes get the best out of us. Specially the ones that think differently. Glad we can be friends.

Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 14742399)

When teams are watching film of the teams they are about to play, they are looking at recent tape, and not old tape.

Recent tape is what they are doing now, hence what he’s trying to explain to you. Stats are stats, no ones denying that, but if you are also going to ignore the context that goes with the stats then it’s a lost cause for anyone to have a conversation with you.

Bottom line, teams are going to look at other teams and say ok what are they known for and what are they doing well right now and trying to do right now, you get that off recent tape, not old tape where half the players weren’t playing.

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742404)

we can be friends.

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14742403)

We have actually watched this Chiefs team play all 18 weeks and the 18 weeks last season. Thus, it's not so much stats as an argument but instead an observation about our defense that we would make that just happens to dovetail with stats and scores.

And remarkable that you "don't care" yet you came over to our board to allegedly engage us on our football takes only to then ignore them when they don't fit your chosen narrative.

Cool.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14742402)

You're the smarmy prick trying to convince us that stats DO matter! **** you, queermonger. "#26 run defense" my ****ing ASS.

Guess what was terrible up through week 10? OUR RUN DEFENSE.

Guess what has since become disciplined and a strength of the team? Our run defense?

Guess what has elasticity and craves a man's entry? Your ****ing anus.

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742411)

This makes sense. Watching recent tape. Doubt the coaching staff will look at the stats tho.

Nice to meet you T-T.

Originally Posted by Mindsink (Post 14742296)

Greetings everyone! Seahawks fan here, living in Patriots country. I'll be rooting HARD for your Chiefs on 2/2.

Even though we were division rivals, I've always liked the Chiefs and admired many of your players over the years, especially in the 90s -- Christian Okoye, Dante Hall, Priest Holmes, Neil Smith, of course Derrick Thomas (watching him sack our QB 7 times in a game was unreal).

My first NFL game I ever attended was in Foxboro on a cold December day. I remember watching Steve DeBerg throw a bomb to Stephone Paige on the very first play of the game. It was pretty much over after that.

Anyway... I just came on board because the Seahawks forum is pretty dead right now and I like to engage in good football talk, and also to provide insight into the 49ers from an opposing fan's PoV, since I follow them closely, being division rivals and all.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14742414)

BOOM.

Twisted Chief is much more eloquent and diplomatic than I am. I want to be like Twisted Chief when I grow up.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14742353)

He calls that "choosing games to fit a narrative", Halfcan. He's a smarmy prick.

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14742403)

We have actually watched this Chiefs team play all 18 weeks and the 18 weeks last season. Thus, it's not so much stats as an argument but instead an observation about our defense that we would make that just happens to dovetail with stats and scores.

And remarkable that you "don't care" yet you came over to our board to allegedly engage us on our football takes only to then ignore them when they don't fit your chosen narrative.

Cool.

Originally Posted by burt (Post 14742292)

Okay..... so exactly why the **** are you here?

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14742424)

I doubt the coaching staffs look at typical stats, but I’m sure they look at the advanced analytical stats. They’d be stupid not to. Looking at OL win percentages, CB passer ratings allowed against various routes, etc can probably save them a lot of time. They won’t base their game plan around these, but I’m sure they consider it.

Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 14742430)

Seattle did a nice job defensively in both of their games against the 49ers. Limited them to 24 points in a Niners loss, and 26 points in a Niners win. They really contained the rushing attack in the first game especially and kept them under 100 yards. If Pete Carroll would let Russell Wilson throw the ball more, Seahawks might've taken that last game in Seattle.

Originally Posted by Mindsink (Post 14742439)

Any 49ers fan that knows their team, knows that mobile QBs give them a lot of trouble. One of the main reasons is because their secondary is highly overrated and is very dependent on their pass rush. Scheme your blocking to get Mahomes into open space where he has the option to run or pass on every play and guys will be open all over the field. It's just a matter of execution at that point. Having a guy like Hill that can take the top off the defense will give them fits.

Also, I see Kelce being a weapon in this game too. The 49ers do not face up against elite TEs in their division. Or, they may over-scheme to account for Kelce and leave Hill & Watkins open.

Anyway, the key is to get Mahomes in space. Get their down linemen to chase him all day long and wear them down.

Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 14742430)

Seattle did a nice job defensively in both of their games against the 49ers. Limited them to 24 points in a Niners loss, and 26 points in a Niners win. They really contained the rushing attack in the first game especially and kept them under 100 yards. If Pete Carroll would let Russell Wilson throw the ball more, Seahawks might've taken that last game in Seattle.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14742435)

This is a low key important factor in the game — ticket sites are saying that the sales are about even between Chiefs and 49ers fans: https://nypost.com/2020/01/20/super-...-skyrocketing/



This could be the difference in a team having to use a silent snap count or not.

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742443)

Those divisional games are tough. I for one was ecstatic that the packers beat the hawks. That would’ve been a tougher Matchup.

Also, funny how everyone here says that if it wasn’t for that stop at the goal line the hawks would’ve been 2-0 vs us. No one mentions that WE would be 2-0 if our kicker (a rookie backup) makes it in OT. We would’ve been 2-0 vs them.

Originally Posted by rlkats (Post 14742469)

Ok so I come in peace. Damn some of you. CHIEF fans are damn ruthless. Everyone has a right to an opinion. Why RIP people apart on a message board. Here are the facts:

1. Chiefs are the favorites to win
2. Accurate, fast and mobile QB's give the niners fits.
3. Speed does kill and the chiefs have it at a ton of positions
4. Niners have a great front 4
5. Niners have a good run game
6. Niners have decent receivers and a great TE.
7. To 4, 5 and 6 so does the Chiefs.
8. Chiefs have the better QB

I expect and hope for a great game where the better team wins. Will it be the Chiefs? Excellent possibility..will it be my niners, ok to good possibility. I am not confident nor relaxed about this game, but am happy as hell we have a young team with a great future. This game will be a chess match, both teams are great. This is an awesome game as a fan. Why not all just chill and enjoy the ride?

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14742470)

This is going to be a long two weeks. Jesus.

Originally Posted by BangbangNinerGang (Post 14742474)

Haha, I thought the same thing. Like damn guys, were just here to chop it up- not to slap you mama.

Originally Posted by BangbangNinerGang (Post 14742474)

Haha, I thought the same thing. Like damn guys, were just here to chop it up- not to slap you mama.

Originally Posted by BangbangNinerGang (Post 14742474)

Haha, I thought the same thing. Like damn guys, were just here to chop it up- not to slap you mama.

Originally Posted by rlkats (Post 14742469)

Ok so I come in peace. Damn some of you. CHIEF fans are damn ruthless. Everyone has a right to an opinion. Why RIP people apart on a message board. Here are the facts:

1. Chiefs are the favorites to win
2. Accurate, fast and mobile QB's give the niners fits.
3. Speed does kill and the chiefs have it at a ton of positions
4. Niners have a great front 4
5. Niners have a good run game
6. Niners have decent receivers and a great TE.
7. To 4, 5 and 6 so does the Chiefs.
8. Chiefs have the better QB

I expect and hope for a great game where the better team wins. Will it be the Chiefs? Excellent possibility..will it be my niners, ok to good possibility. I am not confident nor relaxed about this game, but am happy as hell we have a young team with a great future. This game will be a chess match, both teams are great. This is an awesome game as a fan. Why not all just chill and enjoy the ride?

Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 14742484)

Ever since Mahomes started lighting the league on fire last year, we've had a steady stream of trolls from the team of the week dropping by to shitpost. As far as we're concerned, you guys are just next.

Originally Posted by BangbangNinerGang (Post 14742474)

Haha, I thought the same thing. Like damn guys, were just here to chop it up- not to slap you mama.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14742490)

You should see how we treat each other, especially after a loss.

Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 14742484)

Ever since Mahomes started lighting the league on fire last year, we've had a steady stream of trolls from the team of the week dropping by to shitpost. As far as we're concerned, you guys are just next.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14742498)

Did y’all see Honey Badger’s Twitter post? Sounds like he has a chip on the shoulder about the media not respecting the KC defense. I hope that drives them to bring their A game. They will need it against a very, very good Niners offense.

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14742456)

49ers fans are blowing all of their money on housing.

Originally Posted by rlkats (Post 14742504)

bat shit crazy psycho

Originally Posted by rlkats (Post 14742504)

So instead of being professional, would you want us to act like all the other so called trolls? I cant do that. But what I can do is come on your board and give respect to a great team with a boat shit crazy psycho ****ing fan base. And that is meant in no disrespect

Originally Posted by Tonka83 (Post 14742511)

Tent prices are through the roof!

https://brokeassstuart.com/wp-conten...6/sf-tents.jpg

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742497)

Cheering for the 9ers automatically means you like it in your ***.

Originally Posted by burt (Post 14742513)

My ex was bat shit crazy psycho, so thanks for bringing that up.....

Originally Posted by Tonka83 (Post 14742511)

Tent prices are through the roof!

https://brokeassstuart.com/wp-conten...6/sf-tents.jpg

Originally Posted by rlkats (Post 14742520)

Your welcome

Originally Posted by rlkats (Post 14742525)

Burt man it sounds like your like is perfect. I'm envious of you

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14742402)

You're the smarmy prick trying to convince us that stats DO matter! **** you, queermonger. "#26 run defense" my ****ing ASS.

Guess what was terrible up through week 10? OUR RUN DEFENSE.

Guess what has since become disciplined and a strength of the team? Our run defense?

Guess what has elasticity and craves a man's entry? Your ****ing anus.

Originally Posted by rlkats (Post 14742504)

So instead of being professional, would you want us to act like all the other so called trolls? I cant do that. But what I can do is come on your board and give respect to a great team with a boat shit crazy psycho ****ing fan base. And that is meant in no disrespect

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742514)

On the bright side Rabs and I are basically BFF’s now. He’sa cool dude.

Originally Posted by rlkats (Post 14742515)

Is that downtown KC?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14742531)

Hopefully Suggs can show out and Clark will come ready to roll.

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14742497)

Not to mention that this is most homophobic forum I’ve ever been on. Cheering for the 9ers automatically means you like it in your ***.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14742540)

Keep adding that gasoline to their fire. These guys will be motivated

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Keep collecting those chips. Fuel for greatness.</p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/1219637685352124416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by Tonka83 (Post 14742538)

That is the first image to pop up when I googled San Francisco homeless.
Not even kidding.

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14742539)

San Francisco just got voted the # 1 Destination to shit on a sidewalk or commit suicide by jumping off a bridge.

I imagine the Golden Gate bridge will be getting a lot of action after the Super Bowl.