Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18035233)

You can get good WR’s with lower assets (hello Worthy and Rice). You cannot get a LT. It never happens.

You aren’t getting a good LT in FA. Teams will not let those guys hit the market. And you won’t get them later in the draft either.

Jaylon Moore is simply the next Kingsley Suamatia, Wanya Morris or Donovan Smith. He’s a lottery ticket that even the Chiefs don’t have much faith in per his contract, and for good reason. He’s not even a good lottery ticket. He’s a below average one. He played in a protected run first scheme that helped him. That’s not what we do here. His ass is gonna have it rough. He’ll be on an island way more and I’m not confident he can hold up..


As for the draft, this class isn’t great. There are no Joe Alt’s. But guess what? That doesn’t matter bc we’d never have a shot at one anyway. There are a couple of guys who could be “average” starters which makes the class considered “weak”. You guys realize an average LT changes everything right? We haven’t had an average LT since Eric Fisher and we saw what happened.

Josh Simmons is 100% on this teams draft board based upon traits, size, film and versatility. He is a top 10 pick if he doesn’t get injured. Whether he stays on our board will be due to Rick Burkholder, and I’d bet that decision was made last week after his private visit. Josh Conerly is also a fit for us IMO. He’s got similar traits to Eric Fisher but needs to get stronger. I think he could grow into an average LT.

Fellas, this season hinges on Jaylon Moore like it or not. This could easily go the same way resulting in horizontal passes, low A-dot passes and boring offense bc Mahomes is getting hit 8-12 times a game and we have zero trust in the LT.

The Chiefs most likely feel like this is the best draft to get a LT bc of the perception of the tackles and depth of the class at DL and RB. They’re likely gonna go after a LT and I cannot blame them one bit after the last few years.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18035233)

You can get good WR’s with lower assets (hello Worthy and Rice). You cannot get a LT. It never happens.

You aren’t getting a good LT in FA. Teams will not let those guys hit the market. And you won’t get them later in the draft either.

Jaylon Moore is simply the next Kingsley Suamatia, Wanya Morris or Donovan Smith. He’s a lottery ticket that even the Chiefs don’t have much faith in per his contract, and for good reason. He’s not even a good lottery ticket. He’s a below average one. He played in a protected run first scheme that helped him. That’s not what we do here. His ass is gonna have it rough. He’ll be on an island way more and I’m not confident he can hold up..


As for the draft, this class isn’t great. There are no Joe Alt’s. But guess what? That doesn’t matter bc we’d never have a shot at one anyway. There are a couple of guys who could be “average” starters which makes the class considered “weak”. You guys realize an average LT changes everything right? We haven’t had an average LT since Eric Fisher and we saw what happened.

Josh Simmons is 100% on this teams draft board based upon traits, size, film and versatility. He is a top 10 pick if he doesn’t get injured. Whether he stays on our board will be due to Rick Burkholder, and I’d bet that decision was made last week after his private visit. Josh Conerly is also a fit for us IMO. He’s got similar traits to Eric Fisher but needs to get stronger. I think he could grow into an average LT.

Fellas, this season hinges on Jaylon Moore like it or not. This could easily go the same way resulting in horizontal passes, low A-dot passes and boring offense bc Mahomes is getting hit 8-12 times a game and we have zero trust in the LT.

The Chiefs most likely feel like this is the best draft to get a LT bc of the perception of the tackles and depth of the class at DL and RB. They’re likely gonna go after a LT and I cannot blame them one bit after the last few years.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18035233)

You can get good WR’s with lower assets (hello Worthy and Rice). You cannot get a LT. It never happens.

You aren’t getting a good LT in FA. Teams will not let those guys hit the market. And you won’t get them later in the draft either.

Jaylon Moore is simply the next Kingsley Suamatia, Wanya Morris or Donovan Smith. He’s a lottery ticket that even the Chiefs don’t have much faith in per his contract, and for good reason. He’s not even a good lottery ticket. He’s a below average one. He played in a protected run first scheme that helped him. That’s not what we do here. His ass is gonna have it rough. He’ll be on an island way more and I’m not confident he can hold up..


As for the draft, this class isn’t great. There are no Joe Alt’s. But guess what? That doesn’t matter bc we’d never have a shot at one anyway. There are a couple of guys who could be “average” starters which makes the class considered “weak”. You guys realize an average LT changes everything right? We haven’t had an average LT since Eric Fisher and we saw what happened.

Josh Simmons is 100% on this teams draft board based upon traits, size, film and versatility. He is a top 10 pick if he doesn’t get injured. Whether he stays on our board will be due to Rick Burkholder, and I’d bet that decision was made last week after his private visit. Josh Conerly is also a fit for us IMO. He’s got similar traits to Eric Fisher but needs to get stronger. I think he could grow into an average LT.

Fellas, this season hinges on Jaylon Moore like it or not. This could easily go the same way resulting in horizontal passes, low A-dot passes and boring offense bc Mahomes is getting hit 8-12 times a game and we have zero trust in the LT.

The Chiefs most likely feel like this is the best draft to get a LT bc of the perception of the tackles and depth of the class at DL and RB. They’re likely gonna go after a LT and I cannot blame them one bit after the last few years.

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 18035062)

It does if you consider Watson is no longer on the team, Rice is facing a potential suspension and Brown/JuJu are on one year deals. There is a chance this is Kelce's last season too...

It takes a good part of a season for a rookie WR to fully grasp the system. 2026 will be Rice's final season on his rookie deal. If someone is there they like, it wouldnt be a shock at all. WR has become a very expensive position..keeping it constantly stocked with cheap contacts is a smart move

DE/WR/CB is the play IMO...maybe a LT. They haven't shown the tendency to draft interior DL early with Jones being the exception.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18035293)

Yeah, Rice is a very good player but he isn't exactly smart off the field.

Worthy is also a good player but after that there is very little.

Kelce is on his farewell tour and we don't have a star TE or another WR developing.


Sky Moore is a bust.


It has been YEARS since we had a top 5 offense and we still don't have a for sure LT or enough weapons to overwhelm anyone.

We also have no advantage in offensive coaching anymore, our scheme is stale and not efficient.

Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 18035305)

There is so much to unpack here I don't know where to start

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18035306)

Point is we haven't been good on offense in years so the idea we don't need help on offense is wrong.

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 18035321)

Would have really loved to have seen what this offense looked like with a full season of Rice, Worthy, Hollywood. Does the LT hole still derail it? Does the lack of a running game still derail it? Kelce’s inevitable decline?

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18035293)

Yeah, Rice is a very good player but he isn't exactly smart off the field.

Worthy is also a good player but after that there is very little.

Kelce is on his farewell tour and we don't have a star TE or another WR developing.


Sky Moore is a bust.


It has been YEARS since we had a top 5 offense and we still don't have a for sure LT or enough weapons to overwhelm anyone.

We also have no advantage in offensive coaching anymore, our scheme is stale and not efficient.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18035344)

You literally described why the scheme isn’t working before your last sentence.

Kelce, Hopkins, Juju and Kareem are old, slow and washed. We also had the worst LT situation in the league.

The scheme provided results with Worthy and Rice. Amazing what happens when you have young explosive players instead of old, washed players who were good 3 years ago.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18035353)

Counting the games Rice and Worthy played in the Chiefs averaged 23 points per game and were ranked 14th in the NFL on offense in Points Per Play.

Mediocre results even with Travis Kelce a year younger than he will be this year.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18035353)

Counting the games Rice and Worthy played in the Chiefs averaged 23 points per game and were ranked 14th in the NFL on offense in Points Per Play.

Mediocre results even with Travis Kelce a year younger than he will be this year.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18035381)

Good luck running your offense when this happens at LT all year long.

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