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comochiefsfan 02-27-2025 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17982127)
If John Dorsey is here we probably don’t have 3 rings. We might not even have 2.

Veach’s 2021/2022 drafts were critical to winning back-to-back SB’s and I don’t think Dorsey trades Tyreek. Based on his history he massively overpays him $30+ million and we all want him fired for it.
I’ve said Veach deserves credit. He’s made all the right moves around the core that Dorsey put together.

I’m just saying that Dorsey does deserve some credit for drafting us four hall of famers. Which some people here are strangely hostile about refusing to give him,

MahomesMagic 02-27-2025 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17982120)
And then had the greatest draft in franchise history while winning the next 2 SB's in large part with a defense he built, but yea, leave that part out.

****ing moron.
2022 was a great draft but completely irrelevant to the discussion about HOF players.

OnTheWarpath15 02-27-2025 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17982140)
Idk about you but I am for one am mad the team that's made the last 3 players kept one of the best players at their respective position
I think I'm with you Billay, but I'm gonna need this in English.

staylor26 02-27-2025 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17982145)
2022 was a great draft but completely irrelevant to the discussion about HOF players.
The discussion is about Veach and the job he's done you disingenuous bundle of sticks.

MahomesMagic 02-27-2025 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17982127)
If John Dorsey is here we probably don’t have 3 rings. We might not even have 2.

Veach’s 2021/2022 drafts were critical to winning back-to-back SB’s and I don’t think Dorsey trades Tyreek. Based on his history he massively overpays him $30+ million and we all want him fired for it.
Interesting hypothetical.


Totally unknown.


Veach did a great job bolstering the 4 HOF players he started out with.


Small sample size but seems like Veach has more hits or good players and Dorsey had more home runs.

staylor26 02-27-2025 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17982139)
They fired Dorsey because his working relationship with Reid had deteriorated after he pissed off Maclin among other things.

It’s not like they fired him because they felt that Veach had to be the GM because he scouted and banged the drum for the QB they picked.

Again, every scout in the organization has guys they feel strongly about and go to the GM banging the drum for.

That doesn’t mean we go, “Yeah Brett Veach picked Trent McDuffie, but we can’t really give him credit for that because John Doe in scouting was the one who brought him to Brett and pounded the table for him. John Doe is the one who deserves the credit. Not Veach who took his advice and traded up above Buffalo to get him.”

Anyway, I’m not going to change your mind. I’m not here to bash Veach. But the insane reaction to me giving credit to a GM for picking a player is pretty funny. Maybe have a beer or a smoke.
Why are you ignoring the part about Mahomes team and Texas Tech giving Veach the overwhelming majority of the credit as well?

Again, are they in on the lie with the Chiefs?

It's very easy to ignore facts that are inconvenient for your narrative/argument.

MahomesMagic 02-27-2025 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17982151)
The discussion is about Veach and the job he's done you disingenuous bundle of sticks.
My post was about HOF players all came before Veach got here.


I realize reading is hard for you so move your lips and try it again.

UChieffyBugger 02-27-2025 06:09 PM
I remember Veach saying he wanted Sneed to stay too and look how that turned out? The guy he never tagged is the one who got the deal in the end and history might repeat itself. Infact he's tagged Dee Ford and Sneed previously and what happened? Both got traded. I'm sure there are teams out there who would be willing to give up a pick to get Smith in the building. That's what I'm thinking right now tbh but we'll see. Cause If we can get rid of Tyreek then nothing will surprise me anymore.

royr17 02-27-2025 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17982128)
Paying Smith is only a problem if we still have a gaping hole at LT in September. Miss me with all of the rest of this nonsense.
Hate to say it but humphries is probably who they're rolling with. He was coming off of an ACL and had no off-season no conditioning he wasn't ready for full duty

MahomesMagic 02-27-2025 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 17982158)
Hate to say it but humphries is probably who they're rolling with. He was coming off of an ACL and had no off-season no conditioning he wasn't ready for full duty
I think Veach is going to be more aggressive than that.


Can't imagine he wants to roll the dice with a raw Kingsley and often injured Humphries as the solution to LT.

I think we trade for a vet or sign a $$$$ FA LT.

staylor26 02-27-2025 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17982155)
My post was about HOF players all came before Veach got here.


I realize reading is hard for you so move your lips and try it again.
No, you just want to paint a narrative while ignoring context.

What exactly is the point in listing that he traded away Hill? He traded a HOF player and won SBs. You care more about having HOF guys on the roster or winning SBs?

Was the Tyreek trade a win or a loss? Let's hear your answer.

MahomesMagic 02-27-2025 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17982162)
No, you just want to paint a narrative while ignoring context.

What exactly is the point in listing that he traded away Hill? He traded a HOF player and won SBs. You care more about having HOF guys on the roster or winning SBs?

Was the Tyreek trade a win or a loss? Let's hear your answer.


I realize this is really hard for you but HOF players or stars win SB's.

We started with 4 and will soon be down to 1 in the next two years.

Veach has been a great GM but he needs to hit on some stars in the next 3 drafts to keep us on top.

TwistedChief 02-27-2025 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17982125)
Agreed. He’s done great in those spots.

I’m really looking forward to watching Worthy and Rashee the next couple years. Think they have a chance to be one of the top few receiving duos in the league.
I guarantee I can find a post 18 months ago where you’ve claimed Veach can’t draft receivers.

Do you think it makes you a clueless fool because you’re now criticizing him for other things but patting him on the head for this? I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what it implies about your behavior.

staylor26 02-27-2025 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17982165)
I realize this is really hard for you but HOF players or stars win SB's.

We started with 4 and will soon be down to 1 in the next two years.

Veach has been a great GM but he needs to hit on some stars in the next 3 drafts to keep us on top.
Since you're avoiding my question, and you clearly value saying you have a HOF player over SBs, going to assume you don't beleive the Tyreek trade was a win for the Chiefs.

Thanks for proving that you're a ****ing idiot that nobody should take seriously.

Again of course.

MahomesMagic 02-27-2025 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17982167)
Since you're avoiding my question, and you clearly value saying you have a HOF player over SBs, going to assume you don't beleive the Tyreek trade was a win for the Chiefs.

Thanks for proving that you're a ****ing idiot that nobody should take seriously.

Again of course.

Change your tampon.


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