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kccrow 03-15-2025 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17999671)
Crow you need to check out Elijah Roberts from SMU. Feels like a Spags DL.

91.1 PFF grade this past season, and generated 92 pressures the past two seasons.

21 sacks over the past two years; 6'4, 285, 33 5/8" arms. 4.78 40/ 1.67 10, 31.5" vertical.

He looks awesome. I can’t tell if he’s more DE or DT. He might be an even better DT. He’s really damn strong

He was supposed to be in the list. I noticed a couple of other forgotten changes when I checked it against my spreadsheet. In total:

- QB Kyle McCord
- WR Chimere Dyke
- DT Mason Graham
+ RB Dylan Sampson
+ DE Elijah Roberts
+ DT Kenneth Grant


As for Roberts, I like him a bunch, actually. He's one of the guys I think is definitely on the radar for later on day 2. I see him as a DE. Would love to see him slim down about 10 lbs and gain just a little more speed and flexibility. I really don't think he's a DT at all.

There are some other "tweener" types I have pegged more as DTs like Ty Hamilton and Tonka Hemmingway.

RunKC 03-18-2025 10:30 AM

Crow how do you rank these guys?

Jared Ivey
JT Tuimololoau
Jordan Burch
Landon Jackson(surprised you don’t have him here)

Feels like one of these guys would be great at 63 or 66

kccrow 03-18-2025 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18001932)
Crow how do you rank these guys?

Jared Ivey
JT Tuimololoau
Jordan Burch
Landon Jackson(surprised you don’t have him here)

Feels like one of these guys would be great at 63 or 66

JT Tuimoloau - late 1 to mid 2nd
Jordan Burch - mid 2nd to mid 3rd
Landon Jackson - late 2nd to late 3rd
Jared Ivey - mid 3rd to late 4th

Jackson has so many things I don't like but he has great speed. He has no power, no rush plan, poor hand usage, inconsistent get-off (looks like he anticipates the snap), and high pad level. Everything wrong with him is teachable. I just think he's going to take some time. I don't dislike him, I don't love him either. He's definitely not going to be someone I think 1st round on.

I like Ivey but he has no bend and no major speed element. He's kind of a traditional Spags DE though in that he's long and strong. Burch is similar, just a bit better I think and has a bit more sand when it comes to move inside to DT.

Tuimoloau is on my radar in the late 1st. He's got it all, he just has to be more consistent in putting it all together.

el borracho 03-18-2025 12:36 PM

How do we feel about Zy Alexander LSU and Jordan Phillips Maryland in later rounds? Would you be pissed if they were the only CB and DT the Chiefs took this year?

kccrow 03-18-2025 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 18002104)
How do we feel about Zy Alexander LSU and Jordan Phillips Maryland in later rounds? Would you be pissed if they were the only CB and DT the Chiefs took this year?

Zy Alexander might give me nightmares of Phillip Gaines and Willie Bartee never turning to find the football. Other than that, there's a lot to like.

I don't mind Phillips if the expectation is Derrick Nnadi as a peak. He's never going to provide you any sort of pass rush and he's going to be a passable run defender when things go right. Given we mostly 1-gap, he could be in play here with his ability to get off the ball and into a lane. I don't expect much once he gets there.

kccrow 03-19-2025 05:02 PM

+ QB Kyle McCord, Syracuse back on my list
+ DT Vernon Broughton, Texas
+ DT Cam Horsley, Boston College
- WR Tez Johnson, Oregon
- DT Yayha Black, Iowa
- DT Tonka Hemingway, South Carolina

Not that I necessarily dislike these guys but they are cut off the 100 list.

Bowser 03-22-2025 09:38 AM

Lol, Bartee.

I wonder in the history of this league how many defensive backs have more career sacks than interceptions (and yes, I ask this understanding Trent McDuffie exists, lol)?

RunKC 04-01-2025 10:26 AM

Crow I think you need to look at Sai’Vion Jones. Mentioned him in the mock thread.

6’5”
280 lbs
34 arms
10 hands
4.74 40

I like him more than Swinson for our scheme. 21 years old with room to grow. Very hot motor always running. A lot like Karlaftis. Can be a solid 3 tech on pass rush downs too.

DJ's left nut 04-01-2025 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 18006856)
Lol, Bartee.

I wonder in the history of this league how many defensive backs have more career sacks than interceptions (and yes, I ask this understanding Trent McDuffie exists, lol)?

We had a nickel CB from Mizzou -- Kevin something or other -- awful at playing DB and weirdly good at blitzing. I think he ended up even catching on in Jacksonville for a season or two after we let him go.

DJ's left nut 04-01-2025 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18016626)
We had a nickel CB from Mizzou -- Kevin something or other -- awful at playing DB and weirdly good at blitzing. I think he ended up even catching on in Jacksonville for a season or two after we let him go.

A) I guess I made this up? Kevin Rutland was from Mizzou, played for Jacksonville but never seems to have played for us? I swear I remember us having a guy we didn't do anything but send nickel blitzes with and he was decent at it. Wonder if he was a pre-season wonder.

B) In trying to find this person I came across the 2008 Kansas City Chiefs.

10 sacks. All season. By the entire team.

Hali led the team with THREE. Babin 2, DJ 1.5, Dorsey, Alfonso Boone and Ron Edwards had 1. Pat Thomas contributed the half sack. We had multiple sacks in 10 games including a miraculous 3 sacks against the Chargers. Meaning that we didn't record a single sack in 10 of the 16 games we played that season.

The good news is that such ineptitude yielded us Tyson Jackson. And I can't even be THAT mad about it because apart from Stafford, the entire draft was a giant steaming pile of shit. The Rams and Seahawks, with Jason Smith and Aaron Curry on either side of Jackson, managed to do even worse.

Good lord - how did this franchise have any fans left after that abomination? I had completely removed it from the memory banks altogether.

el borracho 04-01-2025 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18016695)
A) Good lord - how did this franchise have any fans left after that abomination? I had completely removed it from the memory banks altogether.

There is a lot of entertainment (and zero frustration/ disappointment) when the team is a complete bag of crap. When you know they are terrible then you can adjust your expectations and just laugh at the Ineptitude.

At least that has been my experience for much of the last 4 decades.

Bowser 04-01-2025 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18016695)
A) I guess I made this up? Kevin Rutland was from Mizzou, played for Jacksonville but never seems to have played for us? I swear I remember us having a guy we didn't do anything but send nickel blitzes with and he was decent at it. Wonder if he was a pre-season wonder.

B) In trying to find this person I came across the 2008 Kansas City Chiefs.

10 sacks. All season. By the entire team.

Hali led the team with THREE. Babin 2, DJ 1.5, Dorsey, Alfonso Boone and Ron Edwards had 1. Pat Thomas contributed the half sack. We had multiple sacks in 10 games including a miraculous 3 sacks against the Chargers. Meaning that we didn't record a single sack in 10 of the 16 games we played that season.

The good news is that such ineptitude yielded us Tyson Jackson. And I can't even be THAT mad about it because apart from Stafford, the entire draft was a giant steaming pile of shit. The Rams and Seahawks, with Jason Smith and Aaron Curry on either side of Jackson, managed to do even worse.

Good lord - how did this franchise have any fans left after that abomination? I had completely removed it from the memory banks altogether.

Sweet Jesus

Palangi 04-01-2025 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18016404)
Crow I think you need to look at Sai’Vion Jones. Mentioned him in the mock thread.

6’5”
280 lbs
34 arms
10 hands
4.74 40

I like him more than Swinson for our scheme. 21 years old with room to grow. Very hot motor always running. A lot like Karlaftis. Can be a solid 3 tech on pass rush downs too.

I like Sai’vion Jones a lot. And think he could be drafted and developed to be a future 3tech. He was 290 at the senior bowl and was very good when played inside there. Has good length and quickness inside.

DJ's left nut 04-02-2025 09:14 AM

I figured it out!!!!!

Kevin Rutland got 4 sacks playing DB - at Mizzou.

He actually was good as a blitzing NCB but it wasn't for KC. Then we signed him as a UDFA, cut him in pre-season and I suspect I thought the signing was interesting as a "what could he do for us..." sort of exercise.

It was the Todd Haley era -- I was clinging to anything I could find at that point. Rutland getting some sacks as a blitzer in college was enough to put him on my radar.

Man - this is just WAY better than that.

Also weird - today is Kevin Rutland's birthday. That just creeps me out a bit.

Bowser 04-02-2025 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18017192)
I figured it out!!!!!

Kevin Rutland got 4 sacks playing DB - at Mizzou.

He actually was good as a blitzing NCB but it wasn't for KC. Then we signed him as a UDFA, cut him in pre-season and I suspect I thought the signing was interesting as a "what could he do for us..." sort of exercise.

It was the Todd Haley era -- I was clinging to anything I could find at that point. Rutland getting some sacks as a blitzer in college was enough to put him on my radar.

Man - this is just WAY better than that.

Also weird - today is Kevin Rutland's birthday. That just creeps me out a bit.

Well done! I congratulate you on your upcoming full night's worth of sleep you're going to get tonight after straightening that mess out! LMAO


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