It appears we actually already have enough cap space for Amari Cooper.

Doing things in sports that have never been done are always big deals

Correct. Between his drafting and penchant for not going all in, he’s proven to be the best GM in football. Not saying he won’t inquire for another receiver, but he won’t sacrifice the future for a small chance at a three peat.

This team still has weapons on offense an excellent defense and STs plus the best HC in football. They will be fine if they just clean up their careless mistakes.

I once again am of the stance we shouldn't mortgage the future for the chance of the 3-peat

Everyone still remembers the Bulls 3-peats multiple decades later. People still laud Jordan and those teams to this day. Eternal greatness is just within reach.

Nah, Ill pass.

Nobody 'PUT MAHOMES IN THIS SITUATION' unless you want to blame the almighty. Good luck with that.

You keep saying this, and then saying 'that's not what I'm saying'.

Last year is not this year. Totally different situation.

Yeah, Toney and Moore ended up sucking ass. We had to try. We hit on ONE of three.

This year, we've got an immediate hit with Worthy, I think it's fair to say. But injuries are ****ing us.

We won a SB with Juju as our #1 on one leg. He's back, and even now, is more like #3. So it's not all that bad, it's just not as good as it looked in August.

None of this has **** all to do with Mahomes being wild, and missing throws, and not seeing guys running free. He's just not playing well. And your excuses for him, frankly, are insulting because you're implying that he's mentally too weak to handle playing championship level football in the NFL.

This is what it is. Every year. There's adversity, and guys don't pan out, and guys get hurt, and you find a way to make it work.


Mahomes is tough. He'll get himself together. He doesn't need you to make excuses for him.

A chance at Eternal greatness potentially at the cost of blowing up everything we've built up. Icarus flying too close to the sun and all that.

Idk, I think we both know our stances and just agree to disagree.

Maybe it’s just me but trading a 3rd or 4th round pick is not mortgaging the future.

Flags fly forever, you play to win now.

You mean kind of like Belichick and Brady's Patriots?

Because that's what I'm talking about.

I don't give a **** about anything else.

It’s not. But giving up a first or “whatever it takes” is.

Dude, yeah, if they'll give us Amari Cooper for a third round pick and 1.7m salary, then yes, you absolutely do that.

But that will NEVER happen. NEVER.

Why in the **** would you do that if you're Cleveland? You WANT an empty stadium? You want to lose money? **** no. Not going to happen.

This is dumb.

I'm with you on that one, actually.

3rd or 4th is fine.

We threw away a 3rd on Kadarius Toney, I think it's possible we could do better.

It's not like it's a good first round pick. Basically trading CEH, FAU or Orlando Brown Jr for one of them WR's and to make history, it's worth.

only a 1st if it's someone good that you're going to pay a long term contract to and he's going to play for the next 4 or 5 years.

What do you think guys like him usually get traded for?

A 3rd would absolutely get it done. I’d guess it would cost less