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RealSNR 04-30-2021 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15653044)
We've had 1 year bandaids and shitty players there for a few years. If he's there and you can fill it with that type of dude for 3 or 4 years, do it.
If he's the top guy available on the Chiefs' board, then yes, absolutely.

This draft should be BPA all the way. No exceptions. Don't even think about going, "Ehh... but we REALLY could use _____ position!"

We'll be fine at just about any position. And if you trade up, do it because you really want that particular player and you think he'll be amazing, not because he plays a certain position and you're worried there won't be any good guys like him available to you at your spot.

TEX 04-30-2021 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15653012)
Carlos Basham DE Wake Forest

6’3” 270 33 inch arms

Longest active streak in CFB for a TFL with 23 consecutive games. 16 sacks in last 20 games on a team with little NFL talent so he was the headliner and still produced

Looked awesome at the Senior Bowl. Looked good both inside and outside rushing
Great choice! FWIW, I have Carlos "Boogie" Bashman along with Terrance Marshall Jr. as out picks.

RunKC 04-30-2021 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15653060)
Dude. Breeland Speaks didn’t work out and Mecole Hardman is the reason why we need a WR right now.

And Veach didn’t trade up for Mahomes.
Hardman is not a bust though. 10 receiving TD’s and 2 ST’s return TD’s in 2 years is worth his draft pick.

Yes it sucks that he regressed but there was no offseason for him to get better due to covid.

The Franchise 04-30-2021 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15653078)
Hardman is not a bust though. 10 receiving TD’s and 2 ST’s return TD’s in 2 years is worth his draft pick.

Yes it sucks that he regressed but there was no offseason for him to get better due to covid.
Never said he was a bust. But he’s not a WR2. At least not right now.

htismaqe 04-30-2021 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15653077)
Great choice! FWIW, I have Boogie along with Terrance Marshall Jr. as out picks.
Basham would be a dream pick IF he falls far enough.

He won't. But it would be great if he did.

htismaqe 04-30-2021 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15653074)
If he's the top guy available on the Chiefs' board, then yes, absolutely.

This draft should be BPA all the way. No exceptions. Don't even think about going, "Ehh... but we REALLY could use _____ position!"

We'll be fine at just about any position. And if you trade up, do it because you really want that particular player and you think he'll be amazing, not because he plays a certain position and you're worried there won't be any good guys like him available to you at your spot.
Exactly. Too many needs, too much talent available, to get tunnel vision. Go get BPA and make the whole team better.

BigChiefFan 04-30-2021 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652911)
ROFL

I think this article has taken enough of a beating now.
Lmao. For as much shit as we all take around here, that one sticks out like a sore thumb. Gotta love it. Go Chiefs.

kccrow 04-30-2021 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15653074)
If he's the top guy available on the Chiefs' board, then yes, absolutely.

This draft should be BPA all the way. No exceptions. Don't even think about going, "Ehh... but we REALLY could use _____ position!"

We'll be fine at just about any position. And if you trade up, do it because you really want that particular player and you think he'll be amazing, not because he plays a certain position and you're worried there won't be any good guys like him available to you at your spot.
Pretty well what Veach said in his presser. "Outside of QB, anything is on the table."

He's not locked in. It "sounds" like he's most focused on DE, CB, and LB in listening to him overall the past few weeks but he doesn't seem zeroed in on a guy or a position.

RealSNR 04-30-2021 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15653056)
Not advocating for moving up to early rd 2. You can easily do a trade that he did in 2018 with a pick swap.

Example: Chiefs trade picks 58 and 63 to WFT for picks 52 and 74. That would be a great fair trade.

And please stop bringing up Breeland Speaks. He didn’t work out. So what? We traded up for Mecole Hardman and he started the spark to get our win over the Texans and go to the SB.
Also traded up for some guy named Patrick Mahomes. That seemed to work out well
Rationale for trading up for Speaks: "There weren't going to be any good DEs left if he went off the board"

Rationale for trading up for Mahomes: "Because he's ****ing awesome"

See the difference?

The Hardman trade up is difficult to speculate on and I won't get into it, particularly because the board is decidedly divided on whether or not he can continue to improve.

O.city 04-30-2021 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15653070)
Dude, Basham is probably the first DE off the board tonight. If it's not him, then it's probably Perkins.

After that, there's like NOBODY. Ojulari doesn't really fit. Are you planning on trading up in the 2nd for a guy like Elerson Smith, who probably has a late 3rd round grade?

That's what I'm saying.

OF COURSE, if we could trade up 6 spots and get one of the better DE's left, we could do it. But that's not likely to happen at all. We'd be moving up for a guy that we could stay put and get.

There's just not a lot of value left at DE. We'd be better off going with another position and taking a couple later.
I think I'd probably try to bandaid the DE spot up this year and look for the DE early next years draft. Those dudes that you need go early anyway.

TRR 04-30-2021 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15653081)
Basham would be a dream pick IF he falls far enough.

He won't. But it would be great if he did.
Agreed. He’s a good fit for a Spags defensive end. Solid in both the run and pass. He would most likely already be gone if it weren’t for the failed drug test that kept him out of multiple games.

MahomesMagic 04-30-2021 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15653085)
Pretty well what Veach said in his presser. "Outside of QB, anything is on the table."

He's not locked in. It "sounds" like he's most focused on DE, CB, and LB in listening to him overall the past few weeks but he doesn't seem zeroed in on a guy or a position.
Tons of good linebackers and edge rushers with a 2nd round grade left.

WR's are probably going to make some happy and some upset.

I don't see too many players at WR that will be universally loved here.

RunKC 04-30-2021 10:04 AM
Today is the day OL depth really comes into focus. Lot of these guys are gonna be flying off the board in the early and mid rd 2.

Great news for us

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I absolutely love what&#39;s left on the OL for Rounds 2-3 tomorrow. The top players left on my OL board with a day 2 or better grade: <a href="https://t.co/jFa5WHW1sK">pic.twitter.com/jFa5WHW1sK</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThornNFL/status/1387985259153788929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

smithandrew051 04-30-2021 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15653081)
Basham would be a dream pick IF he falls far enough.

He won't. But it would be great if he did.
He’s my draft crush for sure. Seems like such a natural fit opposite Clark.

I wouldn’t mind moving up if he starts to slip.

ToxSocks 04-30-2021 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15653098)
Today is the day OL depth really comes into focus. Lot of these guys are gonna be flying off the board in the early and mid rd 2.

Great news for us

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I absolutely love what&#39;s left on the OL for Rounds 2-3 tomorrow. The top players left on my OL board with a day 2 or better grade: <a href="https://t.co/jFa5WHW1sK">pic.twitter.com/jFa5WHW1sK</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThornNFL/status/1387985259153788929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
LMAO

Watch them somehow come away with Walker Little.


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