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comochiefsfan 01-26-2020 02:52 PM

This is the daughter. Unimaginable. This clip of Kobe talking basketball with her was going viral just a few weeks ago. Absolutely ****ing awful. I don’t usually get hit hard by celebrity deaths, but the idea of a father and daughter with such a clear bond perishing together, with SO much life in front of each of them is just so tough to take.

Kiss your wife, hug your children, call your mom and dad. You never know when it’s all gonna end.

RIP Mamba

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/...2/326/kobe.jpg

MMXcalibur 01-26-2020 02:52 PM

That's awful.
Damnit....

Easy 6 01-26-2020 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14752532)
If you have trouble on a plane it might be able to land safely. But if the rotors stop on a chopper it just turns into a falling rock.

Auto-rotation is supposed to help, but all too often it doesn’t seem to help at all

DaFace 01-26-2020 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 14752537)
Democrats have ruined everything else

Stop.

scho63 01-26-2020 02:55 PM

Once again it goes to show just how fragile and fleeting life is.....guy had everyone he could ask for yet all gone.

Really sad on so many levels, even for non-followers of the NBA.

His father was my basketball coach for a game in the 70's at Pocono Invitational Basketball Camp in PA. Really cool guy.

So sorry for his family.

Rain Man 01-26-2020 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14752503)
Commercial air flight is incredibly safe. Private air flight is...not. Seems like we have at least a plane per year go down here in Colorado. The air currents in the mountains are unpredictable and take down people who aren't experienced enough to handle it.

If you have trouble, it's notably more risky to go from one engine to zero than it is to go from two engines to one.

Plus, I figure pilot experience is probably a big differentiator.

DJ's left nut 01-26-2020 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14752511)
We have a family member that is one of the private Pilots for the Walmart execs. He flies them all over the world

He talks about how underprepared people always are for what they get into flying wise

Exactly.

It takes maybe a dozen flight hours to be able to fly in ideal conditions. Even landings aren't that tough (and take-offs are a day 2 thing).

But so many private pilots just aren't prepared for adversity. And really, the difference between redundancies on commercial craft vs. private are so enormous.

Flight's simple - lift + velocity. Wings and a motor = flying. Flight surfaces are laughably rudimentary; just redirecting air to steer. So stuff like ultralights are as simple (in many ways more simple) than an economy car.

Commercial craft have the long-term viability chuck hundreds of thousands of dollars in redundancy into and they easily pay for themselves. But to make a commercially viable private aircraft that has those kinds of backup systems is prohibitively expensive for most.

And frankly on a helicopter it's just borderline impossible. Think of how many of those tend to go down in war due to mechanical difficulties. They're just so damn complicated that any kind of system failure is borderline catastrophic.

Like I said - I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often more than anything. It's an inherently dangerous activity.

DRM08 01-26-2020 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14752515)
I was talking to some friends just a few days ago about how I would never get on a helicopter if it’s up to me. I just hear about this shit way too often with famous people, let alone any normal person.

Man I could cry and I don’t even watch much basketball. It is that sad.

What blows my mind is that our government for decades has used a helicopter to take the President from the White House to the airport. If I was President, I would refuse to ever step in the helicopter. They can drive me to the airport. Might be slower, but safer IMHO.

Baby Lee 01-26-2020 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 14752483)
Wow crazy. So many celebrities die in aircraft crashes. Stevie Ray Vaughan, Buddy Holly, Payne Stewart...

RIP

Reminds me of John Denver.

Rain Man 01-26-2020 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14752551)
Auto-rotation is supposed to help, but all too often it doesn’t seem to help at all

Yeah, I've read that helicopters can be surprisingly survivable because of that. Obviously not in every case, though.

Sassy Squatch 01-26-2020 02:58 PM

That picture above hurts real bad. God damn.

WhawhaWhat 01-26-2020 02:58 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Kobe Bryant was on his way to a travel basketball game with his daughter Gianna when the helicopter crashed. Those aboard the helicopter also included another player and parent.</p>&mdash; Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) <a href="https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1221537476893925376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 01-26-2020 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 14752545)
The guy I've worked with for the last 25 years has his pilot license and owns a Cessna 182. He has used it for years to go out to some of our remote job sites. The plane was built in 1967 and it terrifies me to ride in it. I know that they keep up on the maintenance but you can bet some of the innards are really getting up there in age and stress.

He doesn't fly as much now but still goes out 5-6 times a year. He's also 67 now so I have a pretty serious "No Fly" policy.

Ours was a 172 w/ an engine conversion to give it the guts of a 182. And yeah, built in the late 60s, early 70s.

I never felt unsafe on it; we didn't **** around with safety or maintenance. Any flight that might encounter weather was just scrubbed and the hearing continued. But I had an instructor who put us through some adversity paces and do shit like surreptitiously kill the motor without telling us. And that rattled the hell out of me.

It wasn't hard to convince me to walk away because as comfortable as I am w/ vehicles, I knew I was lying to myself when I'd say I was ready for real adversity. The 'carb heater' trick and the like would just rattle me more than I'd expect.

We wasted all the flight training and took a bath on the sale, but nobody really cared at that point. Someone was going to be killed or seriously injured at some point so it was the right decision. I haven't been on a light aircraft since and really don't expect that I will be again.

Juice just isn't worth the squeeze.

Hoopsdoc 01-26-2020 03:00 PM

Awful.

RIP Kobe.

Easy 6 01-26-2020 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14752570)
Yeah, I've read that helicopters can be surprisingly survivable because of that. Obviously not in every case, though.

Choppers are just inherently dangerous, instead of gliding through the air they beat it to death


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