Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10747047)

We need defense a lot more than we need another stretch 4. And I was more talking about Bennett looking great in games, but Wiggins looks great from a physical standpoint and some of the crazy things he's been doing. But yes Wiggins has had some nice shots, not all of them from 3.

Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 10747067)

I don't like that for the Rockets. Harden isn't going to thrive off the ball. Plus, who are you giving up to get Rondo. Kevin Love would be a better fit, but the Rockets don't have the assets to aquire him without breaking up the core.

I don't get why the Rockets didn't at least trade Chandler Parsons. Obviously, he was coveted and made less than a million this year. I kept hearing to clear cap room, but don't you opt in and trade him for picks after you make the deal? Presti has been slammed for the Harden trade, rightfully so to a degree. Morey has got his dick sucked. The return on the Harden trade wasn't great yet, but they have Steven Adams and Jeremy Lamb from it. The Rockets got jack shit for Parsons. OKC has gone to the WCF 3 out of 4 years. Houston hasn't won a playoff game.

Morey says their goal isn't to pay Chandler Parsons, but find the next Chandler Parsons. Hmmm, I was told last week he wasn't cheap. Maybe there is more involved than some fantasy GMs around here would like to admit?

I'm not totally defending Presti either. He has made some glaring mistakes. All in all he's doing better than most.

Originally Posted by KevB (Post 10747102)

Morey definitely rolled the dice with Parsons and got burned. But he did so with the intent of getting a Melo or Bosh, then matching any Parsons offer. Once they didn't get the big guns they were after, they decided Parsons wasn't a max player and they'd get 80% of Parsons at 50% of the cost with Ariza. It didn't work out for him, but he's swinging for the fences. He's made moves that can be criticized, no doubt. But I like that he's willing to take the big risk to hit it big.

On the flip side, Presti is more measured. Different strokes....

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10747080)

"Both shooting the three very well"

Just admit that you saw one highlight of a made 3.

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 10747107)

I read another thing about a hold up in the Love to Warriors trade. The Warriors are over valuing David Lee while the Wolves consider him just an expensive throw in.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10747076)

This. I honestly don't see the hype over Wiggins. He's a talent for sure. But there's no way I'd let him keep me from getting an in prime Kevin Love. I didn't see enough out of him in college for me to think he'll be a KD or LBJ or any generational player.

Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 10747067)

I don't like that for the Rockets. Harden isn't going to thrive off the ball. Plus, who are you giving up to get Rondo. Kevin Love would be a better fit, but the Rockets don't have the assets to aquire him without breaking up the core.

I don't get why the Rockets didn't at least trade Chandler Parsons. Obviously, he was coveted and made less than a million this year. I kept hearing to clear cap room, but don't you opt in and trade him for picks after you make the deal? Presti has been slammed for the Harden trade, rightfully so to a degree. Morey has got his dick sucked. The return on the Harden trade wasn't great yet, but they have Steven Adams and Jeremy Lamb from it. The Rockets got jack shit for Parsons. OKC has gone to the WCF 3 out of 4 years. Houston hasn't won a playoff game.

Morey says their goal isn't to pay Chandler Parsons, but find the next Chandler Parsons. Hmmm, I was told last week he wasn't cheap. Maybe there is more involved than some fantasy GMs around here would like to admit?

I'm not totally defending Presti either. He has made some glaring mistakes. All in all he's doing better than most.

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 10747107)

I read another thing about a hold up in the Love to Warriors trade. The Warriors are over valuing David Lee while the Wolves consider him just an expensive throw in.

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10745016)

There's more to basketball than just stats, but I wouldn't expect everyone to know how to use their eyes.

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10747080)

"Both shooting the three very well"

Just admit that you saw one highlight of a made 3.

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10747174)

I will. The tweets I was reading at the start if the game were deceiving I guess, must have been his first few shots he hit. But I had heard nothing but rave reviews in every aspect especially dunking and defense through practice before the games started.

Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 10747144)

Right but they had the option to pick up Parsons last year at 900k then trade him if they needed too. At least thats my understanding. I think it was a mistake to not get assets in return. I understand a GM like Morey is exciting for fans, but he has changed the roster so drastically they are like a new team every year.

Another thing about going after Rondo. I see he and Dwight clashing bigtime after a few months. I just think Morey is flashy and doesn't put a lot of thought into how the roster is constructed.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10747181)

Wiggins could be an elite defender and he's already NBA ready in that regard.

At worst, Wiggins is an elite defender, great system guy, and an effective 15 PPG scorer which is a great guy to have. At best, and his ceiling is enormous, he matches elite defense with offensive playmaking ability. Could easily develop into a max contract guy for a team that values defense.

I want to keep Wiggins because I think he's critical to keeping Lebron's legs fresh.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10747202)

100% agree. I posted about this a few pages back. I get that the NBA allows you to build a little outside of a system, but the chemistry of the guys they've put together or tried to put together just doesn't make any sense. Bosh and Ariza were sensible. I really don't get Melo or Rondo. I just don't.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10747202)

100% agree. I posted about this a few pages back. I get that the NBA allows you to build a little outside of a system, but the chemistry of the guys they've put together or tried to put together just doesn't make any sense. Bosh and Ariza were sensible. I really don't get Melo or Rondo. I just don't.