Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17250849)

The thing is, though-you don't want to have a discussion. You want confirmation bias.

You had decided quite on your own, that KC had done a lot of very different things last week.

Most of us have said-nah, it's the same route concepts and stuff, they just played better.

No, that can't be it, you insist.

But it is. Rice and Kelce particularly got it together in the second quarter and played great. But it's the same stuff we always do, because it works as long as you execute it.

We still had MVS running deep routes primarily. Watson mostly, too. Rice and Moore mostly either taking WR screen type plays at the line or drags across the formation while Kelce drifts into the seams. It's the same stuff we always do. They just did it better.

The only play I hadn't seen before was the reverse flea-flicker thing. There ya go! Now THAT was different.

Of course, when the pitch happened, I yelled -OH SHIT WHAT THE ****!

Followed closely by- YAAAAAAS!!!

LOL.

Alright, Andy. That was cute. Let's not make a habit of THAT, lol.

They just got in a groove, man. That's all. They didn't script 40 plays. You couldn't.

They got a good feel for where to go with the ball, and how to attack the coverage rules, and the players executed.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17250863)

Who is “most of us”? because it’s largely been the same guys on the other side of the debate. Just because everyone last week was on the side of our WRs sucking doesn’t mean it’s true because “most of us” saw it that way.

We saw this game very differently.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17250865)

Well no offense, man, but I'm not entirely sure you know what you're looking at most of the time.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17250871)

He was calling Rice a "band-aid" not too long ago, as if he's a veteran stop gap and temporary solution.

He clearly doesn't.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17250859)

Like maybe there are less post snap options than before for them?

sure, maybe. No way to know that.

There had been talk about getting back to fundamentals, so maybe so.

That's got nothing to do with scripted, though, and the WR screens and stuff we do all the time. Hell, MOST of Rice's catches have been almost that exact play.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17250871)

He was calling Rice a "band-aid" not too long ago, as if he's a veteran stop gap and temporary solution.

He clearly doesn't.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17250873)

Yeah, I certainly hope not. I don't know about you, but I'm hoping Rice is a foundational piece of the next several Super Bowl runs.

I'm hoping he's HIM.

I'm hoping he's Deandre Hopkins, but a 23 year old, cost controlled for four years Hopkins.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17250878)

Go **** yourself with that bullshit

I’ve been complimentary of rice from the jump and have remained that way. You’re making shit up. I still believe we need another weapon since we’re probably not going to fully unleash everything on him his rookie year.

Anybody who’s discussed with me in earnest knows I’m very high on the kid

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17166471)

I’ve literally pointed out a million times that rice is improving and he probably patches a lot of our issues. And it’s a good enough bandaid if he does well with more reps. But the rest of the WR room, they are what they are aside for MAYBE Ross. I don’t think we need to dance around that point anymore.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17250884)

Maybe choose better words? Not my fault.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17250886)

Wow.

While pumping Ross's tires no less.

That's not a great take...

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17250881)

So you didn't call Rice a band-aid?

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17250895)

Yes, I said he’s a bandaid that can cover up some of our limitations and get us to the good enough level we need to be this year. That is a bandaid until we fully expand his role (probably next year) and get him the WR help this offseason most of us believe is needed.

I’ve never even remotely suggested he was some temp throwaway solution.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17250881)

So you didn't call Rice a band-aid?

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17250884)

Maybe choose better words? Not my fault.