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Rudy tossed tigger's salad 07-14-2014 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 10746087)
It was Jordan's first year back. Beating the Magic wasn't that impressive. Houston sucks.

Jordan went for 38,39, and 40 against Orlando and still lost. Shot over 48% for the playoffs that year too. So rusty. But following that narrative, we could point out that it was the Heat's first year playing together.

TEX 07-14-2014 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10746187)
Jordan went for 38,39, and 40 against Orlando and still lost. Shot over 48% for the playoffs that year too. So rusty. But following that narrative, we could point out that it was the Heat's first year playing together.

Bingo. Pretty damn lame to make excuses for Jordan when he goes off for 38, 39 and 40 points in a series... Or we could point out that Dallas did NOTHING in defense of their title except get bounced early the following season. They have spent over $150 Million in luxury tax over the years and have ONLY 1 title to show for it.

ChiefsCountry 07-14-2014 04:48 PM

Looks like the Rockets are now trying to trade for Rondo.

SAUTO 07-14-2014 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10746187)
Jordan went for 38,39, and 40 against Orlando and still lost. Shot over 48% for the playoffs that year too. So rusty. But following that narrative, we could point out that it was the Heat's first year playing together.

He didn't even play the whole year... Who cares what he scored against Orlando, let's not act like he was fully in the swing of things with the team
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saphojunkie 07-14-2014 05:55 PM

I've been reading this thread, but I have no idea what you people are arguing about. Is this just a pissing contest between a couple Texans about which franchise is better? And whether the Spurs' or Rockets' or Mavs' titles are more legit?

Because that's a completely stupid argument.

mcaj22 07-14-2014 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10746169)
In the East? With Deng? 4-5 seed minimum. The East blows.

Could quite possibly be

1. Chicago
2. Cleveland
3. Indiana
4. Miami
5. Toronto
6. Washington

Would be my guess

The Wizards will be better than at least half those teams ahead of them

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 07-14-2014 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10746660)
I've been reading this thread, but I have no idea what you people are arguing about. Is this just a pissing contest between a couple Texans about which franchise is better? And whether the Spurs' or Rockets' or Mavs' titles are more legit?

Because that's a completely stupid argument.

Ok, fine. Here's some real news. Rockets in the process of bringing back Troy "Black Steve Kerr" Daniels!

KevB 07-14-2014 07:19 PM

Watching Wiggins tonight in summer league. Same Wiggins I saw at KU. Physically talented, floats around not taking advantage of it. If they can trade him for a 25 year old Kevin Love who is a top 15 player, regardless the difference in salaries, I'd run to the phone if I'm the Cavs. It's a no brainer IMO.

ChiefsCountry 07-14-2014 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10746669)
The Wizards will be better than at least half those teams ahead of them

If Wall and Beal take a step up then the Wizards should be a top 3 team easily.

RustShack 07-14-2014 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 10746801)
Watching Wiggins tonight in summer league. Same Wiggins I saw at KU. Physically talented, floats around not taking advantage of it. If they can trade him for a 25 year old Kevin Love who is a top 15 player, regardless the difference in salaries, I'd run to the phone if I'm the Cavs. It's a no brainer IMO.

No way.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 07-14-2014 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10747016)
No way.

A combined 4/23 from three...

RustShack 07-14-2014 09:06 PM

We need defense a lot more than we need another stretch 4. And I was more talking about Bennett looking great in games, but Wiggins looks great from a physical standpoint and some of the crazy things he's been doing. But yes Wiggins has had some nice shots, not all of them from 3.

okcchief 07-14-2014 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10746555)
Looks like the Rockets are now trying to trade for Rondo.

I don't like that for the Rockets. Harden isn't going to thrive off the ball. Plus, who are you giving up to get Rondo. Kevin Love would be a better fit, but the Rockets don't have the assets to aquire him without breaking up the core.

I don't get why the Rockets didn't at least trade Chandler Parsons. Obviously, he was coveted and made less than a million this year. I kept hearing to clear cap room, but don't you opt in and trade him for picks after you make the deal? Presti has been slammed for the Harden trade, rightfully so to a degree. Morey has got his dick sucked. The return on the Harden trade wasn't great yet, but they have Steven Adams and Jeremy Lamb from it. The Rockets got jack shit for Parsons. OKC has gone to the WCF 3 out of 4 years. Houston hasn't won a playoff game.

Morey says their goal isn't to pay Chandler Parsons, but find the next Chandler Parsons. Hmmm, I was told last week he wasn't cheap. Maybe there is more involved than some fantasy GMs around here would like to admit?

I'm not totally defending Presti either. He has made some glaring mistakes. All in all he's doing better than most.

-King- 07-14-2014 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 10746801)
Watching Wiggins tonight in summer league. Same Wiggins I saw at KU. Physically talented, floats around not taking advantage of it. If they can trade him for a 25 year old Kevin Love who is a top 15 player, regardless the difference in salaries, I'd run to the phone if I'm the Cavs. It's a no brainer IMO.

This. I honestly don't see the hype over Wiggins. He's a talent for sure. But there's no way I'd let him keep me from getting an in prime Kevin Love. I didn't see enough out of him in college for me to think he'll be a KD or LBJ or any generational player.

KevB 07-14-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10747047)
We need defense a lot more than we need another stretch 4. And I was more talking about Bennett looking great in games, but Wiggins looks great from a physical standpoint and some of the crazy things he's been doing. But yes Wiggins has had some nice shots, not all of them from 3.

You need to be better, regardless of the side of the floor. At the end of the day, the goal is to score more points than the other team. Kevin Love is a top 15 player, and yes much of his value is on the offensive end. He's also a very good defensive rebounder and outlet guy. You're projecting with Wiggins, much as you do with the rest of your teams/players. What are the chances Wiggins is a top 15 guy at some point? I'd guess you'll say 75%. In reality it's probably 10-20%. I'd take the bird in the hand all day, and that's Love.

Oh, and Love isn't just "another stretch 4".


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