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suzzer99 02-01-2019 02:47 PM

I'd be ecstatic with Earl Thomas or Landon Collins

Icon 02-01-2019 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14085285)
Clark knows we’re about to lose at least one good player...

CLARK HUNT: “We’re never going to be able to hang on to all of our great players. The great thing about Brett Veach is that he’s very confident about acquiring players in the draft and in free agency to replace them. He always has a plan. If we were playing chess, he’d kill me.”


I'm not sure why Hunt has such respect for Veach. His first draft class was nothing to brag about and he overpaid for Hitchens and Watkins.

I hope Hunt is proven right but so far - meh...

TambaBerry 02-01-2019 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Icon (Post 14085415)
I'm not sure why Hunt has such respect for Veach. His first draft class was nothing to brag about and he overpaid for Hitchens and Watkins.

I hope Hunt is proven right but so far - meh...

uh the guy was the one who put the chiefs on the mahomes radar

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-01-2019 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 14085405)
Yeah you gotta wonder about someone who thinks we can just find another Hill. Maybe his stint as a lineman has colored him to think the skill positions are easy.

Look, I can appreciate having quality fatties on the roster and after watching that playoff game, it's obvious that our O-line and D-lines need more talent.
You have to have D-line that can penetrate and disrupt because in this day and age, it's more about pressures than sacks. It totally sucks but batting balls and getting in the face of the QB is more productive than sacking or tackling because you could be looking at a "roughing" call up to 50% of the time now. So in that regard, having Chris Jones( and hopefully one more like him )is a great advantage to this team.

That understood, what Hill brings to the team is almost unquantifiable because he has an unnatural ability to reel in some of the wilder passes that Mahomes will attempt when he's being chased down, or when the pocket is fading and he decides to let fly.
When you combine that with the speed, intelligence, and work ethic, it's a no-brainer.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-01-2019 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14085433)
uh the guy was the one who put the chiefs on the mahomes radar

I really hope Veach knocks it out of the park this off season. Not just because we need it, but also because I am getting SO sick of reading about how he "sucks" when in fact, this is his first TRUE off season as the Chiefs GM.
Why don't people understand this?

BossChief 02-01-2019 03:27 PM

Sign a vet CB and safety and also draft a safety and CB high in the draft. Also, take a mid round flier on a talented CB that drops in hopes Spags can coach him up.

Double up to fix the problem.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-01-2019 03:29 PM

Bet everyone is on Veach’s nuts a year or two from now. Give him a year with an actually decent set of draft picks and see what happens.

I’m not judging anyone from the 2018 class yet—that’s ridiculous. Especially when we didn’t pick until 49th overall. Hali and Ford didn’t exactly set the world on fire their rookie year either.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-01-2019 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14085452)
Sign a vet CB and safety and also draft a safety and CB high in the draft. Also, take a mid round flier on a talented CB that drops in hopes Spags can coach him up.

Double up to fix the problem.

Bet we draft a pass rusher pretty early. We might have one of them this year but it won’t be long before both Houston and Ford are gone.

JakeF 02-01-2019 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14085457)
Bet everyone is on Veach’s nuts a year or two from now. Give him a year with an actually decent set of draft picks and see what happens.

I’m not judging anyone from the 2018 class yet—that’s ridiculous. Especially when we didn’t pick until 49th overall. Hali and Ford didn’t exactly set the world on fire their rookie year either.

Why do you think that Veach is a good drafter? He's still running with the team that Dorsey setup so that probably helps but this is still his first time as a GM.

Just curious.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-01-2019 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14085461)
Why do you think that Veach is a good drafter? He's still running with the team that Dorsey setup so that problem helps but this is still his first time as a GM.

Just curious.

There’s a track record of him banging the table for some players as a scout/talent evaluator that have turned into star players. Mahomes, Cox, McCoy, and Desean Jackson are just a few that we know about. There’s probably more than that.

A lot of his picks even last year still have more promise for the future than most rookies after a first year. You might laugh, but I won’t be shocked a bit if guys like Watts and McKenzie turn into decent starters. Speaks will fit this defense better. Nnadi is already looking like a solid choice.

But more than anything, Veach has been tremendous about finding upgrades on the bottom 2/3 of the roster. The depth is a lot better than it was in a lot of key positions now than it was even two years ago. Charvarius Ward, Jordan Lucas, Austin Reiter, Damien Williams, Darrel Williams, Cam Erving, Justin Hamilton, etc. These guys have all flashed as really solid depth players, some with solid starter potential, and they were acquired for very little money and/or trade compensation.

Chief Pagan 02-01-2019 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14084908)
Sure. Let's pay Watkins 16m per but Hill is just too expensive. ****ing stupid.

Sure. If you could sign Hill for 16m per. But I don't think that is likely. How much do you think the Chiefs should be willing to pay per year before you let him walk?

BleedingRed 02-01-2019 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 14085595)
Sure. If you could sign Hill for 16m per. But I don't think that is likely. How much do you think the Chiefs should be willing to pay per year before you let him walk?

Hill I'd go all the way up to 75 Million for 5 years.

The Franchise 02-01-2019 04:42 PM

Hill is getting more than $85 million in his contract. That shit is almost guaranteed to happen.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-01-2019 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14085605)
Hill I'd go all the way up to 75 Million for 5 years.

What? You wouldn’t pay him more than $15M?

BleedingRed 02-01-2019 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14085622)
What? You wouldn’t pay him more than $15M?

Front load contract, re-up after 4 years if he is still cooking.

I mean AB got 4 years 68 Million, so I guess you could bump it to 80 Million for 5 Years.


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