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RunKC 02-25-2025 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17979514)
Politely, but firmly, disagree. Unless Ersey falls to 63 or 66. And even then I’d rather them go another direction.

Simmons and Conerly are the only guys I can consider at T as round 1 guys and feel like it is smart or works.

Yeah I’m not an Ersery or Conerly fan. More of an indictment against Jackson bc he did the Thuney thing moving from guard to
tackle to replace Simmons. I don’t think Jackson is a tackle at the next level. I think he is a guard.

The only tackle that I really like is Simmons and I don’t think he’s obtainable.

To be honest, our best move is likely free agency to fix tackle as much as people hate that route. This is just too good of a defensive class to take a project tackle again. I don’t see how defense is not the clear BPA in the first round, unless it’s a running back and even then I’m not confident that they would pass on a defender.

DJ's left nut 02-25-2025 03:35 PM

Yeah, I'm REALLY not a fan of Donovan Jackson in the first.

I don't get that one at all. That just feels like a lesson we really should've learned by now.

Don't. Draft. Versatility. Early.

RunKC 02-25-2025 03:51 PM

This DL class feels like 2016 and 2019. There could legitimately be 9 or 10 of these guys drafted in the first round. There were 8 in 2016 and 11 in 2019.

I don’t think FAU is even a top 50 pick in this class. He’d be pushed down the board by all these monsters. I don’t think Karlaftis would be a first rd pick in this class.

The value is just too damn good. And quite honestly we’ll need one of those guys early. Chris is about to enter cautious territory where one year he’s 2022 Kelce and the next he’s 2023 Kelce who has clearly lost a step.

Now is the time to prepare for that IMO.

staylor26 02-25-2025 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17979587)
Yeah, I'm REALLY not a fan of Donovan Jackson in the first.

I don't get that one at all. That just feels like a lesson we really should've learned by now.

Don't. Draft. Versatility. Early.

To be clear, the only way I support that move is if you're going to put him at LT and he's going to stay there. They can't pull another Kingsley.

It also wouldn't be my first choice by any means.

DJ's left nut 02-25-2025 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17979616)
To be clear, the only way I support that move is if you're going to put him at LT and he's going to stay there. They can't pull another Kingsley.

It also wouldn't be my first choice by any means.

I just don't see him as a LT. I think he's being stretched as a RT. Long term I think he's a guard who has a similar career to Cosmi.

But the usual caveat applies -- I'm ****ing AWFUL at evaluating OL.

Coochie liquor 02-25-2025 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17979435)
You can't just say "Oh he was drafted as a tackle and that didn't work out SOOOO we will just push him down to guard and he will be elite!!!!!"

And it's not like those OL were drafted very high. Besides Kingsley who are you talking about?

Getting the best OL we can should be the single most important thing to Veach and the Chiefs.

Nothing I have seen gives me confidence that Kingsley, Morris or anyone on our roster can step in as our new starting RG and not have problems.

Did we all forget with how Smith seemed to take a step backwards when Taylor became our RT? With Taylors DEEEEEEP drops it puts more pressure on the RG than usual. Go sign Jackson or Stanley to fix LT and then get a cheap stud guard at #31! Morris and Kingsley can still be developed. Best case would be Kingsley DOES develop and can take over for either Taylor OR Thuney the following year.

Sounds like our OL coach isn’t coaching any of them very good imo. But Andy would never fire him, and Veach obviously won’t force the issue despite it being a pretty glaring issue. We can just keep on wasting valuable picks on players our coaches can’t develop into starters. I’m sure it will work out splendidly.

MahomesMagic 02-25-2025 04:24 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� UPDATE ��<br><br>GM Brett Veach says the left tackle spot and defensive line are priorities for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> this offseason.<br><br>Per, <a href="https://twitter.com/TheFan965?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheFan965</a>.</p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1894455473958465820?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chiefnj2 02-25-2025 04:34 PM

Life would be easier on the tackles if Mahomes didn’t drop so deep.

Chris Meck 02-25-2025 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17979645)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� UPDATE ��<br><br>GM Brett Veach says the left tackle spot and defensive line are priorities for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> this offseason.<br><br>Per, <a href="https://twitter.com/TheFan965?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheFan965</a>.</p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1894455473958465820?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well then.

Sign Jackson, re-sign Smith I guess, with the money staggered out to miss Taylor, call the line good. Draft d-line early, a RB and WR in the mid rounds and get on with it

Rausch 02-25-2025 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17979676)
Well then.

Sign Jackson, re-sign Smith I guess, with the money staggered out to miss Taylor, call the line good. Draft d-line early, a RB and WR in the mid rounds and get on with it

There's that white HB that wants on board....we like those.

RunKC 02-28-2025 10:16 AM

Verderame on his pod:

“Outside of Campbell, this is not viewed as a good tackle class. Many people I’ve talked to have said they think Kelvin Banks and Armond Membou are looked at more as Guards by a lot of these teams. Simmons may be a Tackle but he’s considered to be better on the right side than the left. Conerly could be an option but there’s a reason he might be there when KC picks. He’s viewed as a project. He’s gonna take some time.”

Yeesh

pugsnotdrugs19 02-28-2025 10:20 AM

They're 100% going to pay a veteran and to the extent of the money will tell you what they think about Kingsley's future position, LT or LG.

duncan_idaho 02-28-2025 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17982669)
Verderame on his pod:

“Outside of Campbell, this is not viewed as a good tackle class. Many people I’ve talked to have said they think Kelvin Banks and Armond Membou are looked at more as Guards by a lot of these teams. Simmons may be a Tackle but he’s considered to be better on the right side than the left. Conerly could be an option but there’s a reason he might be there when KC picks. He’s viewed as a project. He’s gonna take some time.”

Yeesh

Yeah, it's rough timing for teams that are looking for a tackle.

And all the more reason to spend available cap space on the OL in FA and perhaps in retaining Smith.

DJ's left nut 02-28-2025 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17982669)
Verderame on his pod:

“Outside of Campbell, this is not viewed as a good tackle class. Many people I’ve talked to have said they think Kelvin Banks and Armond Membou are looked at more as Guards by a lot of these teams. Simmons may be a Tackle but he’s considered to be better on the right side than the left. Conerly could be an option but there’s a reason he might be there when KC picks. He’s viewed as a project. He’s gonna take some time.”

Yeesh

Been saying that for awhile. I shit on most of the class and then get to Campbell and am like "okay...he might be pretty good"

I wanted to hate the WHOLE class, but I do think Campbell will stick at LT and be a good one. And I think he'll probably be an adequate starter at LT even as a rookie. Not good. Probably not even average. But he won't kill ya.

He's the outlier from this OT class. But I do think at some point down the road one of the more toolsy but raw guys could develop past him.

I mean, not here. We'd leave him to die, bench him then move him to guard. But somewhere.

Mecca 02-28-2025 01:46 PM

Tyron Smith gonna end up the Chiefs LT.


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