Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17250163)

Do you have any volume knob besides blood boiling over mad?

I am just asking a question. Clearly we unlocked something Sunday. it's worth a discussion of what we did differently.

I'm just curious to learn what and how much of that is long term and how much of that is playing what the defense gave us. He's had snaps, targets, and ran "heavy slot" routes before. So what changed? It felt like we were more intentional about our screens and blocking to give him a little space to run (he doesn't need very much) and a few instances of attacking him vs man coverage. At the same time it felt like Vegas was more forgiving on Pacheco as a WR and rashee on the drag than some other teams were. Will we see other defenses play that tighter and force us to open up deep? I don't know

So what really worked this time versus prior weeks? I'm more inclined to think we unlocked something workable versus Vegas just playing us badly

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17250226)

Exactly. That's my point. They just executed better, and a couple WRs being out kept them from rotating guys in so much.

There's no magic formula/counter that defenses now have to respond to.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17250220)

They didn't turn it over, commit penalties and drop the football.

It's nothing ground breaking.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17250240)

I'm not so sure about that. It felt to me like we were way more intentionally trying to get the ball to rashee and set up blocking to give him a little space. We threw some really nice designed screens and he was well targeted.

But as an example... Philly actually did a pretty good job of containing rashee. It's not like we refused to target him. He was often well covered. So it feels more than just execution.

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17250003)

Why move up into the top 10 this year? Thats insane.

In the deepest WR draft in a long time? Makes no sense. We know or everyone should know that we have no chance to compete every year for a SB without hitting on our draft picks. We have to have cheap and good players to offset the Mahomes salary within the cap.

We are dealing with Tuneys salary next year. Even with a great FA signing like this one, that's the penalty for kicking the can down the road and getting some cap room in one year but now we are paying $27 million next year for a LG that we can't get out from under.

The sensible solution is that we tag and trade Jones. Use that draft capital to move up in the draft and get the best WR available at that slot.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17250251)

If Rice/MVS/Watson don't drop balls, Kelce and Mahomes don't turn the ball in the red zone, it's a completely different game and performance from the offense.

Again, the biggest difference was clearly execution.

This is exactly why I say you are hilariously clueless. This is very simple shit. Even my ****ing mom who doesn't know shit about football understood this.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17250267)

It isn't simple shit. If you want to simplify some of our stuckness over several months to just catching passes, as if we're dominating second half drives outside of the drops, then yiure just a complete homer which is all you've been when you can't handle a conversation without popping a blood vessel with insults.

This post script offense looked better. Much better. Our rotations were better, we managed the run game well, we set up rashee better, we carved out better roles for skyy and mvs. But some of that as well has to do with Oakland giving us space to use the short game where philly dared us to win with Watson/mvs. It goes that way too.

So where does that leave us? I think we've figured something out that gets us finally back to the juju standard. I also expect defenses to follow more of the philly second half blueprint. So there's some give and take.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17249953)

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17250240)

I'm not so sure about that. It felt to me like we were way more intentionally trying to get the ball to rashee and set up blocking to give him a little space. We threw some really nice designed screens and he was well targeted.

But as an example... Philly actually did a pretty good job of containing rashee. It's not like we refused to target him. He was often well covered. So it feels more than just execution.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17250273)

I didn't say that it's just drops. I clearly mentioned the turnovers, and the WR rotation getting cut down due to injuries too.

Again, it's about execution, which goes beyond just drops.

Do you get it yet?