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-King- 07-13-2014 04:59 PM

I hope someone leaks tapes of Dan Gilbert being a racist and gives Lebron a justifiable reason to leave in 2 years now.
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BigCatDaddy 07-13-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10745082)
But I do apologize for having a different opinion.

No problem man. We've got room for another Knowmo

ChiefsCountry 07-13-2014 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10745101)
I hope someone leaks tapes of Dan Gilbert being a racist and gives Lebron a justifiable reason to leave in 2 years now.
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Just need to piss E, Turtle and Johnny off and Lebron will be gone again.

Pitt Gorilla 07-13-2014 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10745058)
Oh damn one thing. And he still was a great prospect just with a poor OC. But three years in a row I caught hell for saying our basketball team was better than the previous one. All three years I was right. Hell we are one of only nine teams to win a tournament game three years in a row. Caught a lot of flack and remarks for saying LBJ would opt out and return home. And what do you know. Right again. But yeah go ahead and pretend you've never been wrong LMAO

Man, you have an excuse for everything. Didn't you claim something similar about Bennett's fat ass?

RustShack 07-13-2014 05:49 PM

Bennett will be good. I hope we can hold onto him. I'd love to keep Waiters too but with Wiggins he's more expendable, and probably won't stay here as a 6th man when his contract is up because he could start somewhere else.

RustShack 07-13-2014 05:53 PM

The Cavs just need to keep Wiggins because he's probably going to be one of our best defenders already. His offense needs a little work but the talent is for sure there, and who better to mentor him than LeBron?

BigCatDaddy 07-13-2014 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10745218)
The Cavs just need to keep Wiggins because he's probably going to be one of our best defenders already. His offense needs a little work but the talent is for sure there, and who better to mentor him than LeBron?

If you want him to stay in Cleveland probably anyone but LeChoke.

KC_Connection 07-13-2014 06:12 PM

There's just too much stupid in one thread. Someone make a Cavs-only one.

BigCatDaddy 07-13-2014 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10745250)
There's just too much stupid in one thread. Someone make a Cavs-only one.

How about a RustShacks homer thread? All things Cavs and ISU can be discussed there? This seemed to work ok before.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-13-2014 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10745024)
Houston completely bungled their offseason.

An experimental physicist named Luis Alvarez was once asked about SDI. He said its advocates were a bunch of really smart guys with no common sense.

That's how I feel about Daryl Morey.

chiefzilla1501 07-13-2014 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10744968)
Wiggins and Bennett are looking great this summer so far, both shooting the three very well. We also drafted a three point specialist, but he will probably need more time to develope so yeah I'll count him out. Unless something happens we should be adding Ray Allen and Mike Miller who both can shoot very well. Irving and LBJ can also do it.. Irving can fill it up in practice and I'm assuming actually having a presence on the team better than him will help open things up a lot more.. Not to mention competent coaching schemes and guys who are known for getting more out of less. Lue has coached up some great guards.

Wiggins is not going to be a 3 point shooter right away. He needs a ton of work.

I'm encouraged to by the way Bennett played. But: a) it's exhibition games and he's playing against a lot of college players while he's 1 year in; b) a lot of his points came from wide open dunks where nobody guarded the dunk; c) he shot well under 50%. Let's be careful about what we say here. He does look a lot more fit, energetic, and most importantly confident.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Joe harris turns out to be a nobody even though I like the pick.

Let's not get too hung up on players who have a shitload to prove.

chiefzilla1501 07-13-2014 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10744837)
Question:

Who are the shooters on the Cavs right now? I know they can all shoot, but who are the guys who sink high percentage jumpers with ease and can be generally counted on to sink two or more 3-pointers per game?

Lebron... sorta, though that's not even close to his greatest asset to the team. And he's not a 3-point sniper, though he's certainly got that shot in his arsenal.

Irving?

Waiters is unproven. Bennett sure as **** is unproven.

That's not to say that they couldn't try to lure a Ray Allen to join them, but even then you're expecting a lot out of a dude that old.

Just saying... Wiggins doesn't give you that. At least not yet. That's a pretty massive hangup I see with this Cavs team as it exists right now, and I'm not sure it will necessarily improve as Wiggins, Waiters, and Bennett improve. They're going to have to find somebody else.

Kevin Love can be that guy. He's damned good at it, in fact.

Yeah, it's an interesting point. Kyrie, Waiters, Lebron, Wiggins can all shoot 3's. But none of them would you say it's the main piece of their game. Most of them are kind of streak shooters from deep. They will probably add 2 of the 3 -- Allen, James Jones, and Mike Miller, which will help, but they're kind of just role playing rotation guys.

The big problem is at 4 and 5 where the bigs (Thompson, Varejao, Haywood) are not great outside shooters. My issue was and always has been... that same question you ask about 3-point shooting can also be asked about defense. If the Cavs trade Wiggins for Love, they're probably featuring a starting lineup where you have a good enough defender at Center, an elite defender in Lebron, and 3 guys who are terrible at defense.

tk13 07-13-2014 06:41 PM

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'Hamas' Jenkins 07-13-2014 06:42 PM

After LeBron left Cleveland, the remaining Cavs players' true shooting percentages dropped by 6.5% the next year. The players who were on the Heat the previous year saw a cumulative TS % increase of 3.1%.

The players will shoot better next year merely due to the fact that they are getting better shots, but there certainly aren't any deadeye bombers like Kyle Korver.

chiefzilla1501 07-13-2014 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10745281)
After LeBron left Cleveland, the remaining Cavs players' true shooting percentages dropped by 6.5% the next year. The players who were on the Heat the previous year saw a cumulative TS % increase of 3.1%.

The players will shoot better next year merely due to the fact that they are getting better shots, but there certainly aren't any deadeye bombers like Kyle Korver.

What will be interesting is if they can shoot well in a motion offense. Namely catch and shoot situations. Waiters and Kyrie are shot creators. Kyrie was actually lousy in catch and shoot situations. So their game will need some adjustment since they'll be playing with Lebron and Blatt's offense is probably going to have a lot of pick and pop. But Kyrie did shoot almost 40% his rookie season despite a terrible team so the talent is there.


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