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Mecca 08-22-2023 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 17067976)
I have no idea what the "magic number" is? Perhaps I missed it, but I haven't seen anything in stone, from a reliable source. The only thing I have seen, is a bunch a speculative twatter garbage.
At this point, I'm pretty disappointed in Jones for pulling this crap. He is after all, under contract.

It is his last chance at a big contract and he just had a career year on a SB winner, his agent likely told him it was a good idea.

If he were to go out this year and throw up 8 sacks he would lose a ton of money in his FA year.

Bearcat 08-22-2023 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17067952)
Well it does throw out the whole "Hold out of camp for money reasons" in other players eyes if he doesn't play in the first couple of games. Could have a lasting locker room issue going forward.

Not really... every camp practice, preseason game, even meaningless regular season game risks major injury, which risks contract value.

And missing camp, preseason, and even a couple regular season games doesn't impact his future contract... granted, it might alienate the Chiefs a bit if they start 0-2, but he'd probably be looking elsewhere anyway.

Maybe he ends up overplaying his hand, but at this point the dramatics are just fan narratives for the worst outcomes possible... and we're not there yet.

Mecca 08-22-2023 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 17067979)
We said that weeks ago - since then he has lost millions and seems relaxed about it.

Nothing about this has gone according to plan so far - why would it suddenly change.

He’s on the brink of being ruled out of the first couple of games already


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A. Sitting out regular season games is far more expensive and also hurts his odds at a big FA deal.

B. He needs a year of service time to actually be a FA.

Bearcat 08-22-2023 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 17067979)
We said that weeks ago - since then he has lost millions and seems relaxed about it.

Nothing about this has gone according to plan so far - why would it suddenly change.

He’s on the brink of being ruled out of the first couple of games already


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1 million?

Bwana 08-22-2023 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17067980)
It is his last chance at a big contract and he just had a career year on a SB winner, his agent likely told him it was a good idea.

If he were to go out this year and throw up 8 sacks he would lose a ton of money in his FA year.

Oh, I'm sure this is coming from his agent. Once again he is under contract. He needs to hump it into camp and play football.

Mecca 08-22-2023 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 17067991)
Oh, I'm sure this is coming from his agent. Once again he is under contract. He needs to humps it into camp and play football.

He's basically using the only leverage he has, he has to show it now because if he were to get Franchise tagged next year that would cause a whole new issue.

O.city 08-22-2023 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17067982)
Not really... every camp practice, preseason game, even meaningless regular season game risks major injury, which risks contract value.

And missing camp, preseason, and even a couple regular season games doesn't impact his future contract... granted, it might alienate the Chiefs a bit if they start 0-2, but he'd probably be looking elsewhere anyway.

Maybe he ends up overplaying his hand, but at this point the dramatics are just fan narratives for the worst outcomes possible... and we're not there yet.

I don't doubt he can get himself in shape and such.

But you need to play football in order to be ready to play football.

Mecca 08-22-2023 12:29 PM

I think a few of you have gotten use to the idea the Chiefs don't have contract disputes, but this stuff is pretty common place.

O.city 08-22-2023 12:32 PM

When the guy is going to social media to do whatever it is he's doing....that's not usually something this regime is gonna be interested in dealing with.

Mecca 08-22-2023 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17068008)
When the guy is going to social media to do whatever it is he's doing....that's not usually something this regime is gonna be interested in dealing with.

Probably, it's also very possible he realizes now that the Chiefs aren't going to pay him.

Some of his comments like he'll only play for the Chiefs etc are entirely designed to try to make the organization look bad if he leaves.

O.city 08-22-2023 12:35 PM

Well, he's now saying he ain't coming back til week 8 and he can afford to pay the fines.

So it seems we're still in this for a while.

Dante84 08-22-2023 12:35 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Week 8</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1694045203756106184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can afford it</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1694051219382182084?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 08-22-2023 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17068013)
Well, he's now saying he ain't coming back til week 8 and he can afford to pay the fines.

So it seems we're still in this for a while.

If the standoff is worth never getting paid again then by all means, if he sits out 8 weeks before going into FA at 30, he won't get paid, teams will question his desire on top of his age.

Sassy Squatch 08-22-2023 12:39 PM

Oof. Apparently we've got another complete reerun for an agent

Bwana 08-22-2023 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17068013)
Well, he's now saying he ain't coming back til week 8 and he can afford to pay the fines.

So it seems we're still in this for a while.

I guess I missed that too. Hope that's not the case, because if he misses 7 weeks of football, it's not like he's going to pop in and be the same player right away.


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