ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs *****The George Karlaftis Thread*****

Maybe; but mostly its a roles/style thing.

He's just not that guy. In many ways he's a more VALUABLE guy if he continues to develop. Or certainly a harder one to find.

Guys who can play really sound football and also contribute 8+ sacks are massively important and are big time force multpliers in their own right. They allow you to do more 'straight up' stuff because you don't have to cover for them like you would a Bruce Irvin sort of guided missile.

I don't know that it's fair to say Karlaftis has a low ceiling - just that his strengths aren't going to be flashy.

Makes sense. We really need a fast twitch pass rushing specialist opposite him.

htismaqe

11-17-2022 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16609551)

Him, CJ and Dunlap are playing really well together right now. I really hope they don't tinker with that trying to get Frank back in the mix.

Yeah, Dunlap has been a nice surprise the last few weeks.

Chris Meck

11-17-2022 10:10 AM

He's best case scenario when you're picking around #30.

He's not going to fail, he's probably not a future all-pro. He's already affecting the game in positive ways, he's relentless, he's smart, and he's going to just steadily improve until the sacks start coming.

raybec 4

11-17-2022 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16609555)

Yeah, Dunlap has been a nice surprise the last few weeks.

He has been good. My fear is exactly what King said though. They're hoping to get the Frank Clark that played in San Fran 3 weeks ago but they're more likely to get the Frank Clark that played against the Bucs

Megatron96

11-17-2022 10:51 AM

Lol, Frank's going right back in there like he never left, until he proves he can't hack it. The idea that Spags would keep him off the field because some fans believe that he'd somehow mess with the chemistry of the DL is ludicrous.

ThaVirus

11-17-2022 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16609653)

Lol, Frank's going right back in there like he never left, until he proves he can't hack it.

Sooooo.. like 2 years ago then?

raybec 4

11-17-2022 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16609700)

Sooooo.. like 2 years ago then?

Yeah, the can't hack it ship has sailed for old Frank. I don't think it has anything to do with chemistry. It has more to do with Frank taking snaps from a guy who has been playing well when he has been super up and down his entire Chiefs tenure.

Megatron96

11-17-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16609700)

Sooooo.. like 2 years ago then?

All 'm saying is that Chief Fan might not like Frank, and would be more than willing to have him ride the bench, but Spags and Cullen are not of the same opinion. Frank's been playing well in the games that he's played this season, and he's going to go right back to playing his snaps until he proves otherwise.

This coaching staff gives the players every opportunity until they prove they can't hack it. Frank is currently playing with house money because his play has been above average so far. Therefore, he's going to get his snaps.

it's pretty simple stuff.

JPH83

11-17-2022 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16609714)

All 'm saying is that Chief Fan might not like Frank, and would be more than willing to have him ride the bench, but Spags and Cullen are not of the same opinion. Frank's been playing well in the games that he's played this season, and he's going to go right back to playing his snaps until he proves otherwise.

This coaching staff gives the players every opportunity until they prove they can't hack it. Frank is currently playing with house money because his play has been above average so far. Therefore, he's going to get his snaps.

it's pretty simple stuff.

Mmm, I think the point people are making is they may have given Frank more opportunity than was strictly deserved. To be honest, I'll freely admit I can't stand the turd, but IF he plays like the SF game, cool. If he plays even half as well and just gives other guys a rest, cool. If he goes back to being Frank Clark then that'll be a shame.

jjchieffan

11-17-2022 11:42 AM

When the Chiefs traded up for McDuffie, I was expecting it to be for Jermaine Johnson, and I was a bit disappointed when it wasn't. Don't get me wrong, McDuffie is a stud. And maybe down the road Karlaftis will get his sacks and be the better player. Right now, Johnson has 2.5 sacks, so isn't tearing it up either. I guess, to quote MHM, we'll see.

Tribal Warfare

11-17-2022 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16609556)

The times he was free for a sack he was too slow to finish or flat out missed the tackle. George doesn't suck, but he isn't above average either.

Now he's shelling out mid round draft prospect production.

I wanted KC to draft the Cowboys' Sam Williams

tredadda

11-17-2022 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16609513)

I don't really have an issue with how Karlaftis is playing lately. He did have a small "slump" in like games 2-6 but he's been really good the past few weeks. Just have to turn a few of those pressures into sacks and he'll be fine.

I still believe that had Clark not gotten that Safety on Jimmy G, Karlaftis gets it. He was a step slower than Clark on that play.

O.city

11-17-2022 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16609553)

Makes sense. We really need a fast twitch pass rushing specialist opposite him.

Marcellus

11-17-2022 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16609418)

It's definitely wrong. Just checked some 'highlights' from the 2011 season and I didn't see him on the field a single time during the season opener against the Bills.

Were there 3 or 4 plays total in the highlights?

Marcellus

11-17-2022 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16609768)