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O.city 08-22-2023 11:51 AM

Yeah, I'd say if he's not in here pretty quickly he's not playing the first couple weeks. Andy is pretty cautious with that kinda thing.

Which....just ****........This situation has gotten pretty ****ed. I'm really surprised we got to this point.

duncan_idaho 08-22-2023 11:57 AM

He doesn't miss game checks if he has reported but is not playing because he isn't in shape or the team isn't ready to play him.

O.city 08-22-2023 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17067944)
He doesn't miss game checks if he has reported but is not playing because he isn't in shape or the team isn't ready to play him.

We're also not exactly in a weak conference here. A couple dropped games early in the season can make this pretty tough.

They needed to have this whole thing done a while ago.

Mecca 08-22-2023 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17067935)
Yeah, I'd say if he's not in here pretty quickly he's not playing the first couple weeks. Andy is pretty cautious with that kinda thing.

Which....just ****........This situation has gotten pretty ****ed. I'm really surprised we got to this point.

Why?

All it takes is a player demanding to basically be paid what Aaron Donald is being paid for the team to be like uh that isn't exactly feasible for our team especially with your age and then you get a stalemate.

Balto 08-22-2023 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17067944)
He doesn't miss game checks if he has reported but is not playing because he isn't in shape or the team isn't ready to play him.

Well it does throw out the whole "Hold out of camp for money reasons" in other players eyes if he doesn't play in the first couple of games. Could have a lasting locker room issue going forward.

Bwana 08-22-2023 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17067946)
We're also not exactly in a weak conference here. A couple dropped games early in the season can make this pretty tough.

They needed to have this whole thing done a while ago.


Easier said then done. If I were Bart Vatch, I wouldn't be selling the farm for a super fat contract, for a 30 year old DL. By doing so, it could really hamstring the team down the road.

Mecca 08-22-2023 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17067946)
We're also not exactly in a weak conference here. A couple dropped games early in the season can make this pretty tough.

They needed to have this whole thing done a while ago.

How do you get it done if the player has financial demands you aren't willing to meet?

O.city 08-22-2023 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17067950)
Why?

All it takes is a player demanding to basically be paid what Aaron Donald is being paid for the team to be like uh that isn't exactly feasible for our team especially with your age and then you get a stalemate.

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 17067953)
Easier said then done. If I were Bart Vatch, I wouldn't be selling the farm for a super fat contract, for a 30 year old DL. By doing so, it could really hamstring the team down the road.

I don't mean by signing him.

I refuse to believe they were just told the # he wants in July/ August when camp started.

If they (Jones and agent) wanted Donald #, none of the other guys signing mattered. So the Chiefs likely knew his # a while ago. If you aren't gonna get to it, make a decision and move on.

O.city 08-22-2023 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17067955)
How do you get it done if the player has financial demands you aren't willing to meet?

Trade him before the draft.

Mecca 08-22-2023 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17067959)
Trade him before the draft.

It's possible they thought he was bluffing or decided they'll take the last year of the contract and walk after that instead of moving him early.

milkshock 08-22-2023 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17067958)
I don't mean by signing him.

I refuse to believe they were just told the # he wants in July/ August when camp started.

If they (Jones and agent) wanted Donald #, none of the other guys signing mattered. So the Chiefs likely knew his # a while ago. If you aren't gonna get to it, make a decision and move on.


Yeah they ****ed up assuming Jones would climb down

And now look at the situation….


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milkshock 08-22-2023 12:16 PM

The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition
 
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17067969)
It's possible they thought he was bluffing or decided they'll take the last year of the contract and walk after that instead of moving him early.


Yeah well they screwed it up if that was the play because he has called their bluff by not turning up at all


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Mecca 08-22-2023 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 17067971)
Yeah well they screwed it up if that was the play because he has called their bluff by not turning up at all


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He'll turn up for real games, he has to much to lose not to.

Bwana 08-22-2023 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17067958)
I don't mean by signing him.

I refuse to believe they were just told the # he wants in July/ August when camp started.

If they (Jones and agent) wanted Donald #, none of the other guys signing mattered. So the Chiefs likely knew his # a while ago. If you aren't gonna get to it, make a decision and move on.


I have no idea what the "magic number" is? Perhaps I missed it, but I haven't seen anything in stone, from a reliable source. The only thing I have seen, is a bunch a speculative twatter garbage.
At this point, I'm pretty disappointed in Jones for pulling this crap. He is after all, under contract.

milkshock 08-22-2023 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17067972)
He'll turn up for real games, he has to much to lose not to.


We said that weeks ago - since then he has lost millions and seems relaxed about it.

Nothing about this has gone according to plan so far - why would it suddenly change.

He’s on the brink of being ruled out of the first couple of games already


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