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Pepe Silvia 09-23-2023 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 17124717)
Dude, 14 of Memphis’s points are from TOs in favorable position. What are you on about

Let me work.

ThyKingdomCome15 09-23-2023 08:36 PM

Points could end it. Hope they don't come out soft and punt. Walk that line between conservative and aggressive.

DJ's left nut 09-23-2023 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17124719)
Points could end it. Hope they don't come out soft and punt. Walk that line between conservative and aggressive.

Be nice to have a quality RB out there.

And I don't see the consistency in the OL to expect THEM to drive the bus.

I don't see what choice they have but to keep pushing the ball. They don't have the personnel for a traditional 5 minute offense, IMO.

jjchieffan 09-23-2023 08:46 PM

How's that for a quality run? I'll take a 37 yard TD run to all but put it away

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-23-2023 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17124721)
Be nice to have a quality RB out there.

And I don't see the consistency in the OL to expect THEM to drive the bus.

I don't see what choice they have but to keep pushing the ball. They don't have the personnel for a traditional 5 minute offense, IMO.


26/171 for the backs tonight. They aren't Badie, and they've had nice lanes, but that's great production.

DJ's left nut 09-23-2023 08:46 PM

Well I guess **** me then, right Cody?

Pepe Silvia 09-23-2023 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 17124728)
How's that for a quality run? I'll take a 37 yard TD run to all but put it away

Nice run.

Pepe Silvia 09-23-2023 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17124730)
Well I guess **** me then, right Cody?

You did what you had to do.

Pepe Silvia 09-23-2023 08:50 PM

That was too quick.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-23-2023 08:51 PM

Going prevent when they still have all their TOs is a choice.

kepp 09-23-2023 08:54 PM

Ugh, I hate prevent defense

DJ's left nut 09-23-2023 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 17124736)
Going prevent when they still have all their TOs is a choice.

Right? Shit, they don't even HAVE to recover an onside kick. That was just awful.

srvy 09-23-2023 08:58 PM

That should do it.

Pepe Silvia 09-23-2023 08:58 PM

Take a knee.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-23-2023 08:58 PM

Why the **** aren't you taking a knee?

jjchieffan 09-23-2023 09:06 PM

4-0 start. Big game from Cook and Burden. How many games can they win this year? I saw an article on Rock M Nation that said 10 wins was possible. I don't know about that. But 8 should be the floor I would think m

siberian khatru 09-23-2023 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 17124752)
4-0 start. Big game from Cook and Burden. How many games can they win this year? I saw an article on Rock M Nation that said 10 wins was possible. I don't know about that. But 8 should be the floor I would think m

This team and coach make so many mistakes that I think 8 is their ceiling

Mizzou_8541 09-23-2023 09:14 PM

4-0! Loving this. Drink is growing into the role. Still too undisciplined, but we are improving.

That’s is a total “Mizzou” type of game we have lost innumerable times in the past. Credit Drink for not letting the guys have a letdown.

ThyKingdomCome15 09-23-2023 09:22 PM

First time Missouri started 4-0 since 2013! That's awesome. :D

JohnnyHammersticks 09-23-2023 09:23 PM

Shouldn't have been that close, but a win is a win. Cook looked great for the most part. His stats could've been better without all the drops. I could see them winning 8 possibly.

DJ's left nut 09-23-2023 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 17124767)
Shouldn't have been that close, but a win is a win. Cook looked great for the most part. His stats could've been better without all the drops. I could see them winning 8 possibly.

Miller was pretty lousy.

Burden is essentially a supercharged Danario Alexander. And if we're not careful, he'll end up like Alexander was in that Yost season where the entire offense was force-feeding him the football.

Jerm 09-23-2023 09:54 PM

Handle business against Vandy next week and it sets up a huge showdown with LSU….be even bigger than the KSU game.

Pitt Gorilla 09-23-2023 11:15 PM

So, should Drink still be fired for starting Cook at QB? Where are we on that one?

ThyKingdomCome15 09-24-2023 01:15 AM

Fun team to watch. If they could keep from shooting themselves in the foot they could be something to recon with.

warpaint* 09-24-2023 04:34 AM

I’m thrilled to be 4-0, it’s been awhile.

Hopefully they don’t have a let down next week or it could still be all for naught bc the schedule ramps up significantly thereafter and L’s are coming.

Burden was a man among boys last night. And Cook….he’s been a positive difference maker two weeks in a row.

I guess we’re just not going to tackle this yr that seems to be the policy. The defense could be excellent if it cleaned that up but at this point I’m not optimistic. Not to mention the penalties.

mrbiggz 09-24-2023 06:42 AM

Is Taylor for Memphis considered an NFL prospect? Dude catches everything.

Valiant 09-24-2023 10:38 AM

Man, that is a break. 12 games and only 4 on the road.

DJ's left nut 09-24-2023 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbiggz (Post 17124909)
Is Taylor for Memphis considered an NFL prospect? Dude catches everything.

That Memphis squad had 2-3 guys who did NOT look like mid-major players. Big, strong and fast. Taylor and another WR. And a couple DBs as well.

They were better than I expected or at least more talented.

warpaint* 09-24-2023 11:30 AM

Guessing Tulane is still the team to beat but they are one of the better teams (possibly second best) in their league.

They made too many mistakes last night, a clean game from them would have been tight and possibly won (?), be that as it may although it was competitive Mizzou was not threatened the entire 2h for the most part.

dlphg9 09-24-2023 12:20 PM

Brady Cook has really stepped up and playing like I didn't think he could! This is exciting. I think Luther Burden being one of the best WR in college is helping immensely.

WhawhaWhat 09-24-2023 12:39 PM

Missouri is #23 in the AP poll. One spot behind Florida and one spot ahead of Kansas.

BryanBusby 09-24-2023 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17125395)
Missouri is #23 in the AP poll. One spot behind Florida and one spot ahead of Kansas.

Damm. When's the last time both Missouri and Kansas been ranked at the same time. 2008?

Pitt Gorilla 09-26-2023 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17049437)
But it doesn't matter, because that mother****er is going to start Brady Cook at QB and he's gonna start him until it's no longer possible to start him and we're gonna lose all of our other QBs to the portal.

You seriously don't think Cook should start?

DJ's left nut 09-26-2023 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17125395)
Missouri is #23 in the AP poll. One spot behind Florida and one spot ahead of Kansas.

And they're STILL getting the 11a start vs. LSU.

Do they know something I don't and an Vandy loss is already in the bag?

Because that's a matchup against 2 ranked SEC teams - you'd think that wouldn't get such a rotten time slot.

ChiefsCountry 09-26-2023 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17131633)
And they're STILL getting the 11a start vs. LSU.

Do they know something I don't and an Vandy loss is already in the bag?

Because that's a matchup against 2 ranked SEC teams - you'd think that wouldn't get such a rotten time slot.

SEC TV Picks for that week

11am - Mizzou vs LSU (ESPN)
2:30pm - Alabama vs A&M (CBS)
6pm - Kentucky vs Georgia (ESPN)

Guess it was between the Mizzou/LSU vs Kentucky/Georgia for the 6pm game. You know CBS wanted Bama vs A&M bad.

Sassy Squatch 09-26-2023 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17131641)
SEC TV Picks for that week

11am - Mizzou vs LSU (ESPN)
2:30pm - Alabama vs A&M (CBS)
6pm - Kentucky vs Georgia (ESPN)

Guess it was between the Mizzou/LSU vs Kentucky/Georgia for the 6pm game. You know CBS wanted Bama vs A&M bad.

Makes sense.

Pepe Silvia 09-26-2023 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17131633)
And they're STILL getting the 11a start vs. LSU.

Do they know something I don't and an Vandy loss is already in the bag?

Because that's a matchup against 2 ranked SEC teams - you'd think that wouldn't get such a rotten time slot.

That’s what they were discussing on Tigerboard, doesn’t sound good, I think you may be right. Looking at the injury list a lot of key players are hurt and questionable, if Vandy wins that will be the reason.

Sassy Squatch 09-29-2023 10:27 AM

What happened to Burden? Seems like he's still doing light practice at best

Boxer_Chief 09-29-2023 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17135591)
What happened to Burden? Seems like he's still doing light practice at best

He has an ankle issue, his ankle was taped at practice this week. Apparently it's not a high ankle sprain though.

dlphg9 09-29-2023 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17131612)
You seriously don't think Cook should start?

That post is from August, dipshit. I said a couple posts above that Cook has been surprisingly great. Eat shit bundle of sticks.

raybec 4 09-29-2023 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17136199)
That post is from August, dipshit. I said a couple posts above that Cook has been surprisingly great. Eat shit bundle of sticks.

That's a lot of anger there big fella!

DJ's left nut 09-29-2023 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17131647)
That’s what they were discussing on Tigerboard, doesn’t sound good, I think you may be right. Looking at the injury list a lot of key players are hurt and questionable, if Vandy wins that will be the reason.

Seems like a lot of guys are a little worse for wear after playing on that turf in St. Louis.

Hopefully it's just some maintenance stuff...

raybec 4 09-29-2023 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17136212)
Seems like a lot of guys are a little worse for wear after playing on that turf in St. Louis.

Hopefully it's just some maintenance stuff...

Luckily it's Vandy this week. If they're still dealing with these minor injuries next week I'll be more concerned.

warpaint* 09-29-2023 04:56 PM

The line has gotten bigger, it's -14 now. Vandy is really bad.

I wouldn't put anything past Drinkwitz but I expect the team to win.

Pitt Gorilla 09-29-2023 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17136199)
That post is from August, dipshit. I said a couple posts above that Cook has been surprisingly great. Eat shit bundle of sticks.

So, why were you so pissy before the season had even started?

Rams Fan 09-29-2023 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17136199)
That post is from August, dipshit. I said a couple posts above that Cook has been surprisingly great. Eat shit bundle of sticks.

It still doesn't make it any less idiotic over a month later.

And before you say everyone was anti-Cook in this thread at the time, that is not true.

|Zach| 09-29-2023 08:35 PM

"Everything is awesome and nobody is happy"

LMAO some on this thread.

dlphg9 09-30-2023 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17136207)
That's a lot of anger there big fella!

He's a dumb shit. Sorry. Don't like the ****ing chode.

dlphg9 09-30-2023 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 17136504)
It still doesn't make it any less idiotic over a month later.

And before you say everyone was anti-Cook in this thread at the time, that is not true.

It absolutely was anti Cook. There was like 3 people that were in favor of Cook.

dlphg9 09-30-2023 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17136428)
So, why were you so pissy before the season had even started?

I saw what Cook did last year. What did he do that was supposed to instil confidence? He was bad.

Titty Meat 09-30-2023 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17136428)
So, why were you so pissy before the season had even started?

impatient people

Sassy Squatch 09-30-2023 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17136654)
It absolutely was anti Cook. There was like 3 people that were in favor of Cook.

Cook took a heaping handful of crow and shoved it down our throats, but the consensus absolutely was anti Cook. Got booed pretty heavily before the KSU game. Quite glad he proved me wrong and stupid and am hoping Drinkwitz will do the same when we get into the rough portion of the schedule.

duncan_idaho 09-30-2023 10:29 AM

Cook has made plays down the field throwing the ball I didn't think he was capable of making.

If he keeps doing that, I've got no complaints.

Pitt Gorilla 09-30-2023 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17136655)
I saw what Cook did last year. What did he do that was supposed to instil confidence? He was bad.

He continued to grow and mature in the system, one would assume. People were dumping on Drink (the guy who literally saw him every single day in practice) for starting him. We're, somehow, to the point where the fans know more than the coaches who live and breathe this program for their livelihood.

What did YOU see from the other players that led you to believe they'd be a better option?

Pitt Gorilla 09-30-2023 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17136719)
Cook took a heaping handful of crow and shoved it down our throats, but the consensus absolutely was anti Cook. Got booed pretty heavily before the KSU game. Quite glad he proved me wrong and stupid and am hoping Drinkwitz will do the same when we get into the rough portion of the schedule.

Why? Why would anyone be dumb enough to boo a player BEFORE a game? WTF is wrong with people?

BryanBusby 09-30-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17136900)
Why? Why would anyone be dumb enough to boo a player BEFORE a game? WTF is wrong with people?

:shrug:

warpaint* 09-30-2023 11:31 AM

Brady Cook was awful last season & frankly not any good the first two weeks this season. No need for revisionist history. It also appears that maybe (?) the injury he had last season in fact did affect his performance. Either that or he's improved, maybe some of both IDK.

That said I thought the biggest issue was the offense itself. He isn't Corbin Berkstressor, you can win with him & we're seeing the evidence of that as its plain as day they held things back relative to changes in the offense the first two weeks & unleashed them on KState.

There are still issues with respect to 3rd down efficiency, those #'s are atrocious & reflect on Cook as well as the offense itself. How much on each? No idea, just that it's an issue.

At this point the Cook narrative is developing & ultimately TBD.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-30-2023 12:25 PM

People can grow and develop. Which is why I didn't trash him really. To pretend a college kid will always be as is is pretty silly.

Pitt Gorilla 09-30-2023 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 17136927)
No need for revisionist history.

Exactly. Some of us noted, from the beginning, that Drink would play the guy that gives us the best chance of winning, whether that is Cook, Horn, or whomever. Others noted that if Drink started Cook, he should be fired. THAT was the difference.

Horn may still start some games this season. Who knows? But I'm not sure anyone should be surprised/upset that the guy with the C on his chest is leading men/winning some games.

warpaint* 09-30-2023 01:33 PM

Typically coaches play the best player but not always. I get the frustration clamoring for a ballyhooed guy you haven't seen play given what we've been served up until the last two weeks. (One of the more famous screw ups happened here with Rich Gannon 25ish years ago.)

Especially given the number of times we've seen Drink do stupid things on the field & look generally clueless.

IDK where this thing is going ultimately which is tremendous improvement from where I thought we were before the season. The league is down, this team could have a really good yr. Or not.

Pitt Gorilla 09-30-2023 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 17137083)
Typically coaches play the best player but not always. I get the frustration clamoring for a ballyhooed guy you haven't seen play given what we've been served up until the last two weeks. (One of the more famous screw ups happened here with Rich Gannon 25ish years ago.)

Especially given the number of times we've seen Drink do stupid things on the field & look generally clueless.

IDK where this thing is going ultimately which is tremendous improvement from where I thought we were before the season. The league is down, this team could have a really good yr. Or not.

In that case, though, we'd very thoroughly seen both play significant snaps in live action games.

I have no idea what you're talking about regarding "look generally clueless." Did the camera catch him looking some way that you felt was "clueless"? Regardless, how the **** could you possibly know what was going through his head? I'd like to think we're better than this as fans, but we clearly are not.

WhawhaWhat 09-30-2023 02:06 PM

The color guy for SEC Network sounds like he just woke up from a long nap.

Rams Fan 09-30-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17136654)
It absolutely was anti Cook. There was like 3 people that were in favor of Cook.

It wasn't anti-Cook as much as being anti-Drink not having a QB competition and basically gifting Cook the starting job.

The three people I know on record here going into the season saying Cook should regardless start were myself, DJLN, and Pitt Gorilla off the top of my head. There might be more but I know those are the 3 I remember.

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Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 17136927)
Brady Cook was awful last season & frankly not any good the first two weeks this season. No need for revisionist history.

No, it's not revisionist history when there are literally posts here from before the season saying Cook gave the team the best chance to win this season.


He's doing exactly what I thought he would, honestly probably better than I thought. I thought he would mitigate turnovers and be athletic enough to run the offense. His deep ball (maybe Luther deserves more credit on that) is a pleasant surprise.

Pitt Gorilla 09-30-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17137177)
The color guy for SEC Network sounds like he just woke up from a long nap.

He's been about as good as Mizzou's OL to this point in the game.

Pepe Silvia 09-30-2023 02:26 PM

Bad play calling costs Mizzou a TD.

warpaint* 09-30-2023 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17137108)
In that case, though, we'd very thoroughly seen both play significant snaps in live action games.

I have no idea what you're talking about regarding "look generally clueless." Did the camera catch him looking some way that you felt was "clueless"? Regardless, how the **** could you possibly know what was going through his head? I'd like to think we're better than this as fans, but we clearly are not.

Well, he ran the offense the first three years. The on field product, play calling, running back substitution patterns (or lack thereof - he tried to run Roundtree into the ground & gave Badie very few carries given how good he was & then did the same thing to Badie the next season & is now underplaying Peat from what I can see), inability to work the middle of the field, penalties, & game management blunders all play into it.

As far as Horn playing goes, all I'm telling you is I get where fans were coming from - it's very easy to bag on them now that Cook's played a couple good games. Things looked very different a short time ago. Let's also remember Drink started the wrong QB initially in 2020 (remember Shawn Robinson - Bazelak as bad as he was, was a much better player).

It's all an extension of his mindset. Yes the man does not know how to run an effective division 1-a offense & looked generally clueless as I said many times during his tenure & there are numerous examples, some of which I have listed here.

I think his strength might be as CEO for lack of a better term like Pinkel ran his program. He can clearly recruit. He might be good at hiring assistants. Baker's working. I think Wilks would have had he stayed given the improvement the defense showed the second half of the season he was here & this OC....IDK really yet but it's clearly an improvement.

Pitt Gorilla 09-30-2023 02:32 PM

Mizzou's D just got worked. At some point, they HAVE to play better.

Pepe Silvia 09-30-2023 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17131633)
Do they know something I don't and an Vandy loss is already in the bag?

Because that's a matchup against 2 ranked SEC teams - you'd think that wouldn't get such a rotten time slot.

It looks like ESPN knew.

TomBarndtsTwin 09-30-2023 02:37 PM

Defense looked awful that drive.

Hopefully that’s not a sign of things to come for the rest of this day.

Pepe Silvia 09-30-2023 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 17137252)
Defense looked awful that drive.

Hopefully that’s not a sign of things to come for the rest of this day.

Charleston is getting picked on.

Sassy Squatch 09-30-2023 02:47 PM

Kind of sucks for Burden. From what they showed he was in easily

TribalElder 09-30-2023 02:48 PM

One of the hardest **** jobs by the SEC refs so far

denied 2 touchdowns

TribalElder 09-30-2023 03:01 PM

Its bang bang

these announcers are vandy grads

Pepe Silvia 09-30-2023 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 17137309)
Its bang bang

these announcers are vandy grads

An extra FU from the SEC.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-30-2023 03:10 PM

Tollison and Cam'ron Johnson need to have their scholarships revoked. They are miserable.

Pepe Silvia 09-30-2023 03:16 PM

Phantom roughing.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-30-2023 03:26 PM

Jesus God ****ing Christ with the false starts

dlphg9 09-30-2023 03:27 PM

Hell of a throw and catch right there!

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-30-2023 03:28 PM

Wease has been an awesome addition.

dlphg9 09-30-2023 03:28 PM

I can't believe how well Cook is playing. It's ****ing insane.


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