Jack Rabbit.

I'm not sure at this point if they can fit a WR and DE under the cap unless they start restructuring a bunch of contracts, and I'd rather not touch Chris Jones' contract this year.

I saw last night that with the Clark deal and a Mahomes restructure, plus Reid's new contract, we're at somewhere around $11 million.

Restructure Thuney - Add $10 million
Restructure Kelce - Add $5 million
I'm not sure if I see a new Hill deal right now. It might end up coming around the time that OBJ signs his franchise tag.

So we may have around $26 million. Is that enough to get a WR and a DE or two?

Man Trent Baalke needs to be shit canned. He's literally been overpaying about 5m per on EVERY ****ing deal he's done. It's like active self-sabotage man. And after blowing the cap on absolute garbage he's now letting some of their best talents get cut/walk lol.

Anyone else think we will end up resigning Bashaud Breeland.

Would make sense to me as he knows our system well and will be very cheap.

No. He's pretty washed now.

No, he is not good anymore

Dallas is reeruned.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cowboys are re-signing DE Randy Gregory to a five-year, $70 million deal that includes $28 million guaranteed, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1503742351931490314?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If there’s only $28 million guaranteed then there’s a TON of fake money in that deal. I’m betting it’s more like 3/$30

Baalke makes Ryan Pace look smart. Not an easy task.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Who are the top free agents still available?<a href="https://twitter.com/SheilKapadia?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@sheilkapadia</a> ranks the best names still looking for a new deal.<br><br>No. 4: Tyrann Mathieu<br>No. 6: Von Miller<br>No. 9: Allen Robinson<br>No. 15: Stephon Gilmore<a href="https://t.co/QtZF396fh0">https://t.co/QtZF396fh0</a></p>&mdash; The Athletic (@TheAthletic) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheAthletic/status/1503724684130635779?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What woudl it theoretically take to get Von?

Who the **** knows at this point. I saw reports before FA that he was wanting up to $20 million a season. My guess is it would be between the Broncos and the Rams anyways.

Like ARob and any other WR interested in a multi-year deal, his agent will obviously have to waste his time first, being told by a bunch of GMs that the Jags' stupidity isn't gonna net his client a bunch of extra millions, before he ends up signing.

TLDR - ****ing Jags.

Not that there's any rush in UFA. The best contracts usually aren't signed on the first day.

Who knows... he's 32 and looking at his last chance really to make a big $ contract. He can pick his spot, just depends if he wants to make good money and go somewhere to win a ring or make great money with the hope of being in position to get a third ring.

I know many in Denver want him back, but I don't know that I want them to pay top dollar for him. I hope the rumors are true that Denver wants to pursue Chandler Jones, but they're about the same age... so who knows.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contract...de-linebacker/

The thing is, once you get into late January, you need that guy. You need ass kickers to win in the playoffs against good teams.

But to get thru the season, you need depth. It's a tough balance.

Eh.

If there's only $28 million in guarantees then you're probably looking at something like a $20 million signing bonus and base salaries of $3, 5, and 8 over the first 3 years w/ some salary guarantees in years 1 and 2. Base figures of maybe $16 and $18 in the last 2 years that can be jettisoned w/ the dead money.

So 3/$30 probably isn't right, more like 3/$36.

I mean yeah, that's stout for a soon to be 30 yr old DE w/ significant off-field concerns, but it's not quite as stupid as 5/$70 in a vacuum.

I mean it's not as reeruned as 5/$104 w/ $62 million guaranteed or anything...

Yeah - just sit back and let the bad teams with insane amounts of cap space shoot their wads.

Absolutely nothing to be gained by jumping into the mix w/ the Jaguars on these guys. If your opponent is going to make a mistake, don't interrupt them.

I think it's more reeruned to give this dude any kind of a long term deal. Unless they have a bunch of outs in it due to off the field issues.

Except for Reid :D

Word around Denver is they arent players for Von. New regime looking forward. Von is a big personality from the past. If the Rams cant pay him Id think it is a fairly open market but Von wants to play for a contender.

I don't think they're at $11M with the Clark deal, the Reid deal, and the Mahomes restrucuture, unless they're frontloading Reid's deal.

Playing around with OTC and reducing Clark's hit this year to the mark that saves 11.5M, and doing a max restructure on Mahomes, and giving Reid a deal that features a fairly typical structure for 3/30, I end up around $25M in space (20 cleared by Patrick's restructure and a net gain of 5 from the Clark/Reid deals).

That's before trying to reduce the $36M in hits you have from Orlando Brown and Tyreek Hill, which I would guess you can probably cut in half, or restructuring Kelce (which is an easy, no-brainer).

Woh! Myles Jack released.... GET HIM!

https://www.profootballrumors.com/20...ase-myles-jack

We just spent 2 2nd round picks on off-ball linebackers who have played well. We're not a player here.

Chargers must be salivating.

Or Broncos.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lions are re-signing DE Charles Harris to a 2-year $14 million deal, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1503757631340621832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I thought that too, but you can never have enough good players at linebacker. Especially the way we would use Sorenson and Neimann. Like Bob Barker use to say… if the price is right!

Probably a little too light in the seat and not quite long enough to really be a fit here. He's never really developed the functional strength I thought he would after he left Mizzou.

I still think he has something to offer somebody, but I don't know that he was the right guy for our system. He really should be a 3-4 OLB somewhere.

Wait, are we still trading for DK Metcalf????

DJ what moves what you like to see from this point forward in free agency? Honest question and respect your POV. Disregard the Frank Clark stuff that is over and done with.

I think we could get a guy like Arden Key on a cheaper 2-3 year deal kind of like we did with Reid.

I didn't have much interest in being terribly active in FA anyway.

I wanted to re-sign Ward, get a S (Reid fits fine there) and get Za'Darius Smith.

I would've liked to see Edmonds but I understand not spending that much on him.

Having lost out on Ward, I think Darious Williams would be an adequate replacement - little bit of a late-arriver though so he may not age as well as many. Very similar style of player to Ward who may come with less term but likely not a hell of a lot less in AAV. I'm probably not terribly interested in him at that AAV but with such a short track record he may struggle to get a market together.

I mean if we're bargain shopping, Derek Barnett would be a good place to start especially given his age. Kyzir White is someone else I'd really like to see brought in. Hate that we lost out on Cedrick Wilson at $7 million per but maybe Gage can be had in the same ballpark.

Arden Key and Rasheem Green are also younger veteran players who appear to be trending the right direction. The Chiefs really seemed to sour on Nnadi but if Bilal Nichols can be had for a reasonable figure I think he'd be a more versatile DT2 here to pair with Jones than Nnadi was.

I mean I guess the short answer is just let the market settle and see what's still standing.

Smith is the pass rusher they probably need. then check around elsewhere.

Another Rb woudln't be terrible but I wouldn't pay much there. Need a WR.

DJ Chark to the Lions

Come on Allen Robinson....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pass rusher Randy Gregory pulling a U-turn. He&#39;s agreeing to terms with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Broncos?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Broncos</a>, as <a href="https://twitter.com/VicLombardi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VicLombardi</a> reported. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cowboys</a> deal fell apart.</p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1503765995730657284?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The ****? LMAO

Mother ****er!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Same deal for Randy Gregory with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Broncos?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Broncos</a> as he was to sign with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cowboys</a>, source says. Five years, $70 million. <a href="https://t.co/GhyC2hAQBX">https://t.co/GhyC2hAQBX</a></p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1503766186185703425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That pretty much means that the Broncos are out on Jones or Miller at this point.

Gregory can take his offsides to Denver.

Would much rather the Broncos have Gregory than Miller or Jones.

Market thinned out really fast.

As much as it pains me, JuJu might truly be the best solution here. Again, almost exclusively based on age.

If we're not going to be shopping for high-end additions, I don't want to be adding anyone older than 26 if I can avoid it. And I'd like to get 'real' 2 year contracts w/ a 3rd year team option of sorts on the back end so we can reap some rewards of that age and then walk away at the right time.

So Reid is a pretty perfect template for the type of signing I want to see. So now it's just a question of finding where the money is coming from.

Williams is 5"9" - not sure he's that similar to Ward is he? But agree it was a shame to miss on Wilson, seemed a good cheap fit.

I want La'el Collins more than ever!

We are going to face a gauntlet of pass rushers this year. Protecting 15 has to be the first priority!

We would have the BEST O line in the NFL!

I guess I'm alone here, but I think JuJu is pretty much your perfect fit here. I'd love to have him.

He's still young, has been playing in a shit system and would fit what we kind of need out there opposite what we have.

Still plenty of good options out there. Some of the guys that are signing right now are surprising to me.

Plenty of DEs who should come cheaper because of the rookie class coming out.
WR is a little thin but they can still probably get one at a decent cost.
CB is the interesting one. I'd take a shot on Rasul Douglas but Veach may just draft one and roll with that.

Juju Smith-Schuster
Arden Key
Rasul Douglas
Trade for Laviska Shenault

The pass rush class is playing out perfect for us.

I think Douglas will get a pretty good deal.

But man I really do like the idea of trading for Shenault. Are there rumors he's actually being shopped or is this just idle Twitter speculation?

The first phase of FA is over, high price contracts are almost done with. I'm hoping we make a couple of nice signings over the next couple of days.

I hope we look at RT Collins, DT Suh, DE Clowney, RB Penny, WR Landry.

It started with a tweet I posted last night of someone saying that teams should be reaching out to the Jags about Shenault.

And then this was posted.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNdirocco?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ESPNdirocco</a>, the buzz is that Laviska Shenault Jr. is a player the Jaguars may be looking to move.<br><br>No surprise after the team agreed to sign Christian Kirk and Zay Jones yesterday.</p>&mdash; Mike Clay (@MikeClayNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeClayNFL/status/1503720621091569667?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So there might be some actual truth about it happening.

You're close,

Arden Key/ Z. Smith
Rasul Douglas/ Gladney
Russel Gage

The only trade I would do is for La'el Collins. RT is becoming more important every day in the AFCW.

Im just not high on Juju and I dont want to trade unless its for Collins.

My current wish list right now.

Arden Key
Jeff Gladney
Juju Smith-Schuster
Laviska Shenault

Za'Darius Smith and Allen Robinson are up there but I think they command more than we're willing to spend. And honestly....I'd rather go with the younger players at this point. It's going to be a dog fight this year and I'm not looking to sacrifice for a bunch of older players. We'll win moving forward with depth and just having good players everywhere.

Robinson or Landry

Or is it possible to get BOTH?

I agree with juju, I don't see the appeal in him. Seems hurt quite often and is a ghost in most games.

I also don't want to see the collaboration tik toks between him and Jackson.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Safety Marcus Williams is agreeing to terms with the Baltimore Ravens on a five-year deal worth $70 million, per source. Big market-shifting deal in AFC North.</p>&mdash; Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1503771102316838916?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This mother****er.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Veteran QB Chase Daniel signing back with the Chargers on a 1-year deal, $2.25 million, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1503770094463332352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

fuhhhhhhhhh

Why is the AFC so damned hard!!!

Yup. I'm just not on the Allen Robinson train. The time to have gotten him was 4 years ago when we should've signed him and Za'Darius Smith instead of Watkins and...well, you know.

Now he's 29 and coming off a tough year (yes, the situation with the Bears played a part in that but man he was awfully bad).

I forgot to mention Gladney.

Gladney, Key, Kyzir White, Derek Barnett, Shenault trade and Rasheem Green/Bilal Nichols is probably financially feasible and gets a nice little infusion of younger talent on the roster. Most of whom seem to be trending up.

The greatest career in NFL history continues.

Is $14 million in AAV really 'market shifting' for a guy many thought was the top of the S market?

I don't see that as such.

And yeah, I think it's more likely that Mathieu ends up at $10-12 million/yr on a 2 year deal with every passing minute. Oh he'll throw some bullshit money at the back end to save face, but if Williams is at $14 million, I don't think Mathieu gets there.

**** Tom Brady....this the dude that should have an ESPN documentary made about him. He's going to wind up making a ton money for basically doing jack shit.

You aren't factoring in the cost of his "locker room leadership" and the amount of times he throws up his arms while on the field.

Chargers just got another QB coach. I've seen worse, he's a smart player.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former Washington RB J.D. McKissic intends to sign a two-year, $7 million deal with upside to $8 with the Buffalo Bills, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1503773640596369420?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Maybe one of the most successful NFL careers ever?

**** beat me to it lol. I mean....an argument can be made...

I do NOT like that.

The AFC is really trying to catch us. Going to be tougher than ever to get back to the Superbowl.

Jags are releasing Myles Jack….:go get this guy now!

Greggory to the Broncos. Whitworth retiring with the Rams. The Rams with a lot of holes to fill. Go get Von Miller and draft an interior pass rusher in the first or second of the draft.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Heard this last night also lmao <a href="https://t.co/SRuR7hmVDi">https://t.co/SRuR7hmVDi</a> <a href="https://t.co/sSYv5jFw5P">pic.twitter.com/sSYv5jFw5P</a></p>&mdash; Dilla (@E_Dilla) <a href="https://twitter.com/E_Dilla/status/1503742200433233928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Rams are still working to re-sign Von Miller, but it&#39;s been a competitive market for the LB, per source.</p>&mdash; Jeff Howe (@jeffphowe) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeffphowe/status/1503775227834212365?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That Kirk contract made no ****ing sense.

We should be looking at trades too.

Lockett or Cooks.

Damn thats a great signing

My Christmas in March list:

Trade a 5th or 6th for Lael Collins and give him a 2 year extension with a nice signing bonus to keep him motivated. OL is in GOD mode the next 2-3 years.

Trade a 5th or 6th for Laviska Shenault or a 4th-5th for Lockett (TL is my ultimate preference) Guy runs good routes, is a bit of a gadget player as well as possession WR and cheap on rookie deal. I’m a big fan. Lockett is one of the best route runners and deep threats in the NFL. He’d fit perfectly.

Sign Allen Robinson. This is going to be the move we kinda NEED to make. We need firepower early in the season as the defense goes through its yearly early season major struggles. Especially with this much defensive turnover in coaches as well as players. The defense will need time to build good communication. Allen knows the offense and is used to making sight adjustments and other stuff that’s tough to learn for WRs and he can come in and do it right away.

Sign Jeff Gladney.

Sign Ndamakon Suh to play next to Jones.

Sign someone from this group to help pass rush
JPP
Houston
Zdarius Smith
Melvin Ingram
Chandler Jones
Von Miller

I also won’t be surprised if Tyrann ends up back in KC on a very team friendly deal after not getting anything like what he hoped for in FA. Remember, the year before we signed him, he only got a 1 year deal for 7m. I think there’s a chance we get him back for not much more than that.

The only logic I can think of is that they're trying to make Jacksonville more desirable and the only way they can do that is with money. But they can't afford to overpay multiple top FAs/top FAs won't even answer the phone, so they have to do it with mid tier guys.


Only explanation I can come up with.

Isn't their QB supposed to be "generational"?!

:evil:

Then at least give the money to the good players, lol wtf.