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The Franchise 01-15-2020 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14725809)
Injury related?

No clue. Just saw he wasn’t at practice.

Lzen 01-15-2020 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14725566)
Terez Paylor is as good of a source as any reporting Chiefs news. His reporting a year ago about Mahomes being pissed off after the AFCCG loss and immediately getting back to work was amazing.

Pat has been thinking about this moment for a year and he’s determined to carry this team if he has to, just like Sunday.

The kid is locked in and this time he’s got Spags, Honey Badger and Clark on the other side to lead the defense and support him.

This team just capped off its worst quarter of the season with 3 quarters of by far their absolute best football of the season. I have not seen this team play together in as complete of a game in any time I can remember in the Andy Reid era.

There is no way in hell we are losing this weekend. I don’t give a shit if the Titans are on a win streak. The last 3 quarters last Sunday was the best and most complete game I have ever seen a Chiefs team play.

It just feels like the Titans are walking into a gigantic buzzsaw against a stadium full of fans and players that are ready to take out so much frustration on them.

I will be shocked if this is not a double-digit win for the Chiefs.

Well said. :clap:

I told my wife after the game on Sunday that if you don't think this is a team of destiny after that performance then I don't think you're paying attention.

TribalElder 01-15-2020 02:15 PM

Who have we added since the last time we played the titans

Pennel & Suggs

Also jones if his dick isn’t broke Sunday

Lzen 01-15-2020 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14725621)
Vrabel said he would cut his dick off if it meant that they would win or be in the SB.

Seriously? He actually said that?:eek:

FloridaMan88 01-15-2020 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 14725816)
Who have we added since the last time we played the titans

Eric Fisher and LDT didn't play in the first Tennessee game.

Fuller was also out.

siberian khatru 01-15-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 14725820)
Seriously? He actually said that?:eek:

https://www.businessinsider.com/mike...layoffs-2020-1

The Franchise 01-15-2020 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14725829)
Eric Fisher and LDT didn't play in the first Tennessee game.

Fuller was also out.

It was also the first game back for Mahomes and Clark.

carcosa 01-15-2020 02:26 PM

I'm honestly starting to feel bad for all the Titans fans who have gotten their hopes up...

DJJasonp 01-15-2020 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 14725835)

Calling on chiefs fans to make some clever signs for sunday, related to this!

The Franchise 01-15-2020 02:29 PM

And I remember hearing that Reid admitted that the first game back for Mahomes.....they ran a different offensive scheme to ease him back in after his knee injury.

smithandrew051 01-15-2020 02:35 PM

Frank Clark needs to have his shit talking at an all time high in Taylor Lewan’s ear all game. He can’t help but retaliate. That’ll lead to a few easy penalties to halt the Titans offense.

I want to see Clark over celebrate every single sack, TFL, etc right in Lewan’s face.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-15-2020 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14725840)
It was also the first game back for Mahomes and Clark.

Ragland also didn’t play a snap at all. He will be key to stopping Henry

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-15-2020 02:39 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tyrann Mathieu said he’s been up late this week. Visualizing making plays. Thinking about what route concepts the Titans like to run and what they like to do.</p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1217512456240746498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Duckbutt 01-15-2020 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 14725843)
I'm honestly starting to feel bad for all the Titans fans who have gotten their hopes up...

You are the absolute dumbest person I've ever seen a sports forum.

Beef Supreme 01-15-2020 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Duckbutt (Post 14725877)
You are the absolute dumbest person I've ever seen a sports forum.

Welcome to Chiefs Planet. I'm sure you will enjoy your stay.ROFL

Imon Yourside 01-15-2020 02:53 PM

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smithandrew051 01-15-2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Duckbutt (Post 14725877)
You are the absolute dumbest person I've ever seen a sports forum.

You don’t seem very nice

KChiefs1 01-15-2020 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Duckbutt (Post 14725877)
You are the absolute dumbest person I've ever seen a sports forum.



That would be Showtime.

suzzer99 01-15-2020 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14725668)
Can we all agree to not be a bunch of pussies if the Chiefs aren’t up 35-0 at the end of the first quarter?

I'll settle for 24-0.

carcosa 01-15-2020 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Duckbutt (Post 14725877)
You are the absolute dumbest person I've ever seen a sports forum.

Excuse me, Duckbutt?

Sassy Squatch 01-15-2020 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Duckbutt (Post 14725877)
You are the absolute dumbest person I've ever seen a sports forum.

Nice first post.

siberian khatru 01-15-2020 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14725870)
Ragland also didn’t play a snap at all. He will be key to stopping Henry

Nah, he played 17 snaps

Jeff.Fisher 01-15-2020 03:08 PM

One thing you guys may not realize. The chiefs game in nashville was the first game for the tits after malcolm butler went out for the season. They were trying to adjust. Not saying mahomes won't get his yards but i think you'll see tighter coverage this game, especially since adoree jackson has been back.

And forget that "vrabel will have them trying to hurt mahomes" talk. Vrabel is the biggest advocate of player safety we've seen.

493rd 01-15-2020 03:09 PM

Looks like Titans will be healthy for this one. Jayon Brown practiced today

rabblerouser 01-15-2020 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Duckbutt (Post 14725877)
You are the absolute dumbest person I've ever seen a sports forum.

Stick around then, if you can. There's lots of stupid Titans fans here lately.

carcosa 01-15-2020 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14725928)
Nice first post.

I thought it was quite rude, actually!

rabblerouser 01-15-2020 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 493rd (Post 14725934)
Looks like Titans will be healthy for this one. Jayon Brown practiced today

Good. They'll need him, and I don't want any excuses from these room temp IQ-having Tits fans when we wax that ass on Sunday.

rabblerouser 01-15-2020 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 14725940)
I thought it was quite rude, actually!

Oh, come on, carc. He seems nice.

His name is Dickbutt. Doesn't get much nicer than that. It means buttsects.

carcosa 01-15-2020 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14725933)
One thing you guys may not realize. The chiefs game in nashville was the first game for the tits after malcolm butler went out for the season. They were trying to adjust. Not saying mahomes won't get his yards but i think you'll see tighter coverage this game, especially since adoree jackson has been back.

Tighter coverage, you say??? Oh no!!!!!!!

rabblerouser 01-15-2020 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 14725943)
Tighter coverage, you say??? Oh no!!!!!!!

Oh noes! No Malcolm Butler! Oh noes!!

Derrick Henry will rush for 150 again!? Oh noes!!

Patrick Mahomes II will throw for 700 yards and 10 TDs against this bullshit team to lead my favorite sportsball team the Kansas City Chiefs franchise to victory over the Tennessee Tits.

Kman34 01-15-2020 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14725933)
One thing you guys may not realize. The chiefs game in nashville was the first game for the tits after malcolm butler went out for the season. They were trying to adjust. Not saying mahomes won't get his yards but i think you'll see tighter coverage this game, especially since adoree jackson has been back.

And forget that "vrabel will have them trying to hurt mahomes" talk. Vrabel is the biggest advocate of player safety we've seen.

Jackson threw for 365... yeah they’ve got their shit together..

rabblerouser 01-15-2020 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 14725953)
Jackson threw for 365... yeah they’ve got their shit together..

ROFL No shit. And Jackson can't even ****ing throw.

WilliamTheIrish 01-15-2020 03:20 PM

Haven't slept more than 2 hours each night. The anticipation is unreal.

Last night, felt relaxed, laid down, but couldn't even think about falling asleep.

TV on, YouTube app engaged.

Watching and rewatching the best AFL/Chiefs videos. To see all those players, my boyhood heroes... and knowing that a new chapter is within our grasp again.

Gave up my season tix after 20 years the day Gunthers hand picked kicker shanked the kickoff, costing the Chiefs the AFC West title in OT.

I swore I'd never go back until they drafted a GD QB, and fnally they drafted PMII and I returned for the home opener vs the Eagles on 09/17/2017.


No way I can sleep.

See you in the Gold section.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-15-2020 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14725933)
One thing you guys may not realize. The chiefs game in nashville was the first game for the tits after malcolm butler went out for the season. They were trying to adjust. Not saying mahomes won't get his yards but i think you'll see tighter coverage this game, especially since adoree jackson has been back.

And forget that "vrabel will have them trying to hurt mahomes" talk. Vrabel is the biggest advocate of player safety we've seen.

Yeah, Adoree Jackson is totally gonna cover Tyreek up....

Keep dreaming bub. You can get those guys all the experience they want, they haven’t saw a WR corp like this in a long time. Not since the first game.

KChiefs1 01-15-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14725933)
One thing you guys may not realize. The chiefs game in nashville was the first game for the tits after malcolm butler went out for the season. They were trying to adjust. Not saying mahomes won't get his yards but i think you'll see tighter coverage this game, especially since adoree jackson has been back.

And forget that "vrabel will have them trying to hurt mahomes" talk. Vrabel is the biggest advocate of player safety we've seen.


Couldn’t you have picked a better coach for your handle?

O.city 01-15-2020 04:17 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You guys may wanna check the tape and numbers<br>Tannehill 21 1st half PA passes/11 in 2nd<br>Tannehill 130 yards in 1st half/30 in second<br>Henry has over 150 more yards in 2nd 1/2 than he does in 1st</p>&mdash; Dan Orlovsky (@danorlovsky7) <a href="https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1217565220098531328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Titans and this "all time run game" have been great salting away games in the second half. But it doesn't lend itself to a type of game that puts them ahead. They'll throw early.

JohnnyV13 01-15-2020 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Duckbutt (Post 14725877)
You are the absolute dumbest person I've ever seen a sports forum.

Clearly, you haven't met Loneiguana on this forum yet. He'll make even you feel smart, which must be a completely novel experience for you.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-15-2020 04:34 PM

This is the week that having Suggs pays large dividends.

I don’t see Lewan and Conklin pushing him and Clark around with any form of consistency. It’ll be hard set edges when those two are in.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-15-2020 04:39 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Super Bowl assignments are set – Bill Vinovich has been named <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SBLIV?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SBLIV</a> referee. <a href="https://t.co/52iJdkUWe4">pic.twitter.com/52iJdkUWe4</a></p>&mdash; NFL Officiating (@NFLOfficiating) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLOfficiating/status/1217564667763200001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

rabblerouser 01-15-2020 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 14726052)
Clearly, you haven't met Loneiguana on this forum yet. He'll make even you feel smart, which must be a completely novel experience for you.

To be fair, loneiguana may not understand the English language.

Sofa King 01-15-2020 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Duckbutt (Post 14725877)
You are the absolute dumbest person I've ever seen a sports forum.

100% agree.

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Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 14725889)
Welcome to Chiefs Planet. I'm sure you will enjoy your stay.ROFL

I hope he stays.

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14725900)
You don’t seem very nice

He's right though.

Sassy Squatch 01-15-2020 05:10 PM

Kittle didn't practice today for the 49ers. That seems like it might have some implications.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-15-2020 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14726149)
Kittle didn't practice today for the 49ers. That seems like it might have some implications.

Ankle injury.

That time of year I guess..

Coochie liquor 01-15-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14725933)
One thing you guys may not realize. The chiefs game in nashville was the first game for the tits after malcolm butler went out for the season. They were trying to adjust. Not saying mahomes won't get his yards but i think you'll see tighter coverage this game, especially since adoree jackson has been back.

And forget that "vrabel will have them trying to hurt mahomes" talk. Vrabel is the biggest advocate of player safety we've seen.

Were they still adjusting last week when Baltimore had guys open all over the place, but Jackson is too bad at reading defenses past his first read? Let us know when they’ll be ready to cover our weapons with a qb who can actually make it through his reads on top of making some absolutely backbreaking throws. Don’t think it’s gonna be this week.

Megatron96 01-15-2020 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14725933)
One thing you guys may not realize. The chiefs game in nashville was the first game for the tits after malcolm butler went out for the season. They were trying to adjust. Not saying mahomes won't get his yards but i think you'll see tighter coverage this game, especially since adoree jackson has been back.

Your defense has allowed more TDs inside the RZ (68%) than any other defense in the league this season with the lone exception of HOU. Try again.

smithandrew051 01-15-2020 06:01 PM

Can anyone give me a comparable example to this game where the “Titans” of the matchup have won in a playoff game?

Chiefs: all time great QB, good pass defense, elite offensive weapons, home field advantage, better all time head coach, great pass protection OL

Titans: journeyman QB, good run defense, elite RB, road team,

Megatron96 01-15-2020 06:07 PM

Giants over 16-0 Pats I guess

rabblerouser 01-15-2020 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 14726192)
Were they still adjusting last week when Baltimore had guys open all over the place, but Jackson is too bad at reading defenses past his first read? Let us know when they’ll be ready to cover our weapons with a qb who can actually make it through his reads on top of making some absolutely backbreaking throws. Don’t think it’s gonna be this week.

Let them think they've got it all figured out. You know. Since Lamar Jackson is SUCH an MVP and all...

rabblerouser 01-15-2020 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14726248)
Can anyone give me a comparable example to this game where the “Titans” of the matchup have won in a playoff game?

Chiefs: all time great QB, good pass defense, elite offensive weapons, home field advantage, better all time head coach, great pass protection OL

Titans: journeyman QB, good run defense, elite RB, road team,

NY Giants over Joe Montana and the San Francisco 49ers when Hostetler beat them and then the Bills for the SB?

:shrug:

The Franchise 01-15-2020 06:16 PM

Titans have scored on 24.2% of the drives in the first quarter. That’s last in the league.
The NFL average is 36.9%.
The Chiefs have scored on 59.8% of the drives in the first quarter. That’s first in the league.

R Clark 01-15-2020 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14726275)
Let them think they've got it all figured out. You know. Since Lamar Jackson is SUCH an MVP and all...

I would think pats game on Sunday should changed some minds on mvp?

rabblerouser 01-15-2020 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by R Clark (Post 14726287)
I would think pats game on Sunday should changed some minds on mvp?

You'd think.

Patrick showed them what a real MVP does in the playoffs.

Marcellus 01-15-2020 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by R Clark (Post 14726287)
I would think pats game on Sunday should changed some minds on mvp?

Nah it doesn't work that way, its a regular season award. Lamar deserves this one, he won't see another one.

FringeNC 01-15-2020 06:35 PM

It's going to be cold -- the Titans have not played in a cold game all year.

carcosa 01-15-2020 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 14726139)
100% agree.



I hope he stays.



He's right though.

Please don't be mean to me!!!!!

Megatron96 01-15-2020 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 14726328)
It's going to be cold -- the Titans have not played in a cold game all year.

According to their fans, their team is a better cold weather team.

Then again, they also think that Tannehill is a better QB than Mahomes, so that tells you something . . .

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-15-2020 07:10 PM

Pretty freaking awesome

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carcosa 01-15-2020 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14726420)
According to their fans, their team is a better cold weather team.

Then again, they also think that Tannehill is a better QB than Mahomes, so that tells you something . . .

This is what I mean when I say I'm starting to feel bad for them. They've had a magical run but it's made them completely delusional. They really have no idea what's about to hit them.

Jeff.Fisher 01-15-2020 07:26 PM

I dont think any titans fan would say that mahomes is not a good quarterback. Nor would any titans fan think the chefs will not score a few points.
I suppose its the way things have went giving us some confidence. The road the titans have travelled is much more impressive. You guys barely beat the texans

MrSlippery 01-15-2020 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14726460)
I dont think any titans fan would say that mahomes is not a good quarterback. Nor would any titans fan think the chefs will not score a few points.
I suppose its the way things have went giving us some confidence. The road the titans have travelled is much more impressive. You guys barely beat the texans

You mean just the playoffs? We barley beat the Texans, come on we played for less than 3 quarters and scored 51 points

R Clark 01-15-2020 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14726460)
I dont think any titans fan would say that mahomes is not a good quarterback. Nor would any titans fan think the chefs will not score a few points.
I suppose its the way things have went giving us some confidence. The road the titans have travelled is much more impressive. You guys barely beat the texans

What a dumbass ,barely means spot them 24 beat them by 20

Megatron96 01-15-2020 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14726460)
I dont think any titans fan would say that mahomes is not a good quarterback. Nor would any titans fan think the chefs will not score a few points.
I suppose its the way things have went giving us some confidence. The road the titans have travelled is much more impressive. You guys barely beat the texans

Anyone that thinks Tannehill is even in the same zipcode as Mahomes is reeruned. That's not to say that Tannehill is bad or sucks. He's a solid middle-of-the-pack QB. His whole career screams "slightly above-average." Nothing he's done this season has changed that.

And your definition of "barely" might need tweaking. We beat HOU by 20 points. Scored 51 points in under 40 minutes. It would take the Titans 3 entire games to score 51 points.

carcosa 01-15-2020 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14726460)
I dont think any titans fan would say that mahomes is not a good quarterback. Nor would any titans fan think the chefs will not score a few points.
I suppose its the way things have went giving us some confidence. The road the titans have travelled is much more impressive. You guys barely beat the texans

Lol ok Jeff Fisher

chiefzilla1501 01-15-2020 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14719964)
So where it matters most except where it matters THE most.

The Texans also have a better group of weapons and a more explosive passing game in general.

You’re talking like someone who didn’t watch those two teams place each other.

The Titans have only lost 3 games with tannehill as a starter. 2 of those losses with henry out or battling a hammy injury. There's no doubt they're better than Houston. I love our chances but this is a much bigger challenge than Houston.

CasselGotPeedOn 01-15-2020 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14726460)
I dont think any titans fan would say that mahomes is not a good quarterback. Nor would any titans fan think the chefs will not score a few points.
I suppose its the way things have went giving us some confidence. The road the titans have travelled is much more impressive. You guys barely beat the texans

I'm so sorry for what's gonna happen to you on Sunday.

Kman34 01-15-2020 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14726460)
I dont think any titans fan would say that mahomes is not a good quarterback. Nor would any titans fan think the chefs will not score a few points.
I suppose its the way things have went giving us some confidence. The road the titans have travelled is much more impressive. You guys barely beat the texans

Awwww.... Look at the little trollie troll... Isn't he cute???

MrSlippery 01-15-2020 07:42 PM

I would not call Jeff Fisher cute, but I get what you are saying lol

TomBarndtsTwin 01-15-2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Fisher (Post 14726460)
I dont think any titans fan would say that mahomes is not a good quarterback. Nor would any titans fan think the chefs will not score a few points.
I suppose its the way things have went giving us some confidence. The road the titans have travelled is much more impressive. You guys barely beat the texans

The road the Titans have traveled is more impressive?

Of course it is! You’re a 9-7 team that squeaked into the playoffs. You are the #6 seed. Of course the road you have to travel would be tougher than the Chiefs. That’s the result of your season.

And props to your team for beating the Pats and Ravens. Those are solid wins. If only there was another team in the NFL this year that could do that . . . . . . oh, wait.

Yeah, we’ll see you on Sunday.

Delano 01-15-2020 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 14726328)
It's going to be cold -- the Titans have not played in a cold game all year.

I don’t think that’s an advantage for the chiefs. Cold weather games tend to favor more physical teams with bruising running games right? Maybe that’s just a meme.

JohnnyV13 01-15-2020 08:09 PM

The team that this Titans team reminds me of will creep many of you out. To me, they're like the 2001 Pats.

Brady was a first-year starter, but wasn't the GOAT. He was a smart game manager that didn't make mistakes and didn't choke under pressure.

They had a big plowhorse back in Antowain Smith, who was good, but not really close to Derrick Henry.

They ranked below league average on both offense (17th) and defense (24th) in yards allowed but ranked 6th in both points allowed and points scored.

This Titans team ranks 12th in offensive yards and 21st in yards allowed. However, they rank 10th in points scored and 12th in points allowed. Like the 2001 Pats, they're better than the sum of their parts. They're the kind of team that "finds a way to win" like the 2001 Pats, as we saw in the Titans win over KC in week 10 that included creating fumbles and big plays on special teams.

Veteran Tannehill is better than first-year starter Brady, with a passer rating of 117.4 compared to 86.5 for Brady. However, we need to remember that passing stats are up since 2001 with rule changes that protect both QBs and defenseless receivers. If we look to AV (average value) ratings, Tannehill was an 11 in 2019 while Brady was a 12 in 2001. AV is football's equivalent to WAR (wins above replacement) in baseball, in that they attempt to measure the relative value of players regardless of position.

Strangely enough, both Antowain Smith and Derrick Henry had AVs of 12 in these seasons, even though it's clear Henry is a much more dominant back. Perhaps this is due to the increase of spread offenses leading to lighter boxes and better YPC in today's game.

The scary part is that the 2001 Pats beat the highest-powered offense of their day: "The Greatest Show on Turf" Rams.

All that being said, those Rams lost because their HC Mike Martz was a dumbass. The 2001 Pats had no answer for Marshall Faulk, but Martz kept trying to win with his deep passing game. If he had kept feeding Faulk in both the running and short passing game, the Rams would have torched the Pats.

I don't think Andy Reid will be that stupid. Certainly, the Chiefs don't have the same coaching gap as the Rams did vs. the 2001 Pats. Andy Reid, on his worst day, will not be outcoached by Mike Vrabel anywhere close to the degree Mike Martz was outsmarted by Bill Belichick.

DRM08 01-15-2020 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 14726541)
The team that this Titans team reminds me of will creep many of you out. To me, they're like the 2001 Pats.

Brady was a first-year starter, but wasn't the GOAT. He was a smart game manager that didn't make mistakes and didn't choke under pressure.

They had a big plowhorse back in Antowain Smith, who was good, but not really close to Derrick Henry.

They ranked below league average on both offense (17th) and defense (24th) in yards allowed but ranked 6th in both points allowed and points scored.

This Titans team ranks 12th in offensive yards and 21st in yards allowed. However, they rank 10th in points scored and 12th in points allowed. Like the 2001 Pats, they're better than the sum of their parts. They're the kind of team that "finds a way to win" like the 2001 Pats, as we saw in the Titans win over KC in week 10 that included creating fumbles and big plays on special teams.

Veteran Tannehill is better than first-year starter Brady, with a passer rating of 117.4 compared to 86.5 for Brady. However, we need to remember that passing stats are up since t 2001 with rule changes that protect both QBs and defenseless receivers. If we look to AV (average value) ratings, Tannehill was an 11 in 2019 while Brady was a 12 in 2001. AV is football's equivalent to WAR (wins above replacement) in baseball, in that they attempt to measure the relative value of players regardless of position.

Strangely enough, both Antowain Smith and Derrick Henry had AVs of 12 in these seasons, even though it's clear Henry is a much more dominant back. Perhaps this is due to the increase of spread offenses leading to lighter boxes and better YPC in today's game.

The scary part is that the 2001 Pats beat the highest-powered offense of their day: "The Greatest Show on Turf" Rams.

All that being said, those Rams lost because their HC Mike Martz was a dumbass. The 2001 Pats had no answer for Marshall Faulk, but Martz kept trying to win with his deep passing game. If he had kept feeding Faulk in both the running and short passing game, the Rams would have torched the Pats.

I don't think Andy Reid will be that stupid. Certainly, the Chiefs don't have the same coaching gap as the Rams did vs. the 2001 Pats. Andy Reid, on his worst day, will not be outcoached by Mike Vrabel anywhere close to the degree Mike Martz was outsmarted by Bill Belichick.

We've already seen the Chiefs against the Titans defense. They didn't exactly get shut down.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-15-2020 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14726562)
We've already seen the Chiefs against the Titans defense. They didn't exactly get shut down.

Truth.

530 yards and 32 points on the road with half our starting O-Line and a gimpy Mahomes just coming back from the knee injury?

Yeah, i think we’ll be alright Sunday.

DRM08 01-15-2020 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 14726572)
Truth.

530 yards and 32 points on the road with half our starting O-Line and a gimpy Mahomes just coming back from the knee injury?

Yeah, i think we’ll be alright Sunday.

Multiple botched FG's as well kept them from pushing closer to 40 points.

Sparta22 01-15-2020 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14726562)
We've already seen the Chiefs against the Titans defense. They didn't exactly get shut down.

We’ve already seen the titans vs the chiefs defense. Nothing special.

MahiMike 01-15-2020 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14723103)
Nick Wright actually made a good point about the potential game plan.

Sell out to stop the run early while you’re building a lead presumably, then shift to more 2 high safety looks as the game goes on.

That’s an underrated plan of attack that really only KC can rely on with their offense.

I totally expect them to come out throwing and run Henry more in the 2nd half.

MahiMike 01-15-2020 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 14726572)
Truth.

530 yards and 32 points on the road with half our starting O-Line and a gimpy Mahomes just coming back from the knee injury?

Yeah, i think we’ll be alright Sunday.

What about the weather? 15 degrees Sunday when our guys were dropping passes like crazy last Sunday?

JohnnyV13 01-15-2020 08:46 PM

Another interesting comparison is the 1990 Chiefs for the 2019 Titans.

These teams are strikingly similar on offense. The 1990 Chiefs had 36-year-old veteran castoff Steve DeBerg who had a career year with 24 TDs and 4 Ints. He torched teams with deep passes off play action fakes due to KC's strong running game.

The real similarity is the physical dominance of the O line and running backs. The 1990 Chiefs wore defenses down with the two-headed monster of Christian Okoye and Barry Word. They had 1800 plus yards between them rushing, but nothing much catching the ball out of the backfield.

If you look at total yards from scrimmage, their production is very close to Derrick Henry's in 2019.

Of course, that 1990 Chiefs team had a significantly better D. The 1990 Chiefs were 16th in yards allowed, but 1st overall in turnovers and points allowed. That team put QBs on their ass. Derrick had 20 sacks, Neil Smith 9.5, Dan Saleamua had 7.0 from the NT spot, with Bill Mass adding 5.5 from DE. Oh yeah, that front was backed up by the Albert Lewis, Kevin Ross, Deron Cherry secondary.

BTW the 1990 Chiefs lost in Miami to HOF QB Dan Marino.

Why Not? 01-15-2020 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 14726541)
The team that this Titans team reminds me of will creep many of you out. To me, they're like the 2001 Pats.

Brady was a first-year starter, but wasn't the GOAT. He was a smart game manager that didn't make mistakes and didn't choke under pressure.

They had a big plowhorse back in Antowain Smith, who was good, but not really close to Derrick Henry.

They ranked below league average on both offense (17th) and defense (24th) in yards allowed but ranked 6th in both points allowed and points scored.

This Titans team ranks 12th in offensive yards and 21st in yards allowed. However, they rank 10th in points scored and 12th in points allowed. Like the 2001 Pats, they're better than the sum of their parts. They're the kind of team that "finds a way to win" like the 2001 Pats, as we saw in the Titans win over KC in week 10 that included creating fumbles and big plays on special teams.

Veteran Tannehill is better than first-year starter Brady, with a passer rating of 117.4 compared to 86.5 for Brady. However, we need to remember that passing stats are up since 2001 with rule changes that protect both QBs and defenseless receivers. If we look to AV (average value) ratings, Tannehill was an 11 in 2019 while Brady was a 12 in 2001. AV is football's equivalent to WAR (wins above replacement) in baseball, in that they attempt to measure the relative value of players regardless of position.

Strangely enough, both Antowain Smith and Derrick Henry had AVs of 12 in these seasons, even though it's clear Henry is a much more dominant back. Perhaps this is due to the increase of spread offenses leading to lighter boxes and better YPC in today's game.

The scary part is that the 2001 Pats beat the highest-powered offense of their day: "The Greatest Show on Turf" Rams.

All that being said, those Rams lost because their HC Mike Martz was a dumbass. The 2001 Pats had no answer for Marshall Faulk, but Martz kept trying to win with his deep passing game. If he had kept feeding Faulk in both the running and short passing game, the Rams would have torched the Pats.

I don't think Andy Reid will be that stupid. Certainly, the Chiefs don't have the same coaching gap as the Rams did vs. the 2001 Pats. Andy Reid, on his worst day, will not be outcoached by Mike Vrabel anywhere close to the degree Mike Martz was outsmarted by Bill Belichick.


I love Kurt Warner. Mahomes is significantly better than 2001 Kurt Warner and it’s not close. Obviously, it’s hard to top prime Holt/Bruce/Faulk but our WR group ain’t shabby. TE? Hahaha. Defense kinda a push. Coaching, not close.

I point all that out to say this, it doesn’t matter what the Titans remind you of, they’re not stopping this offense. They best score 30 if they even want to be close to being in the game late. Brady and Antwaan Smith couldn’t score 30 and the Tits won’t either.

DRM08 01-15-2020 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 14726614)
What about the weather? 15 degrees Sunday when our guys were dropping passes like crazy last Sunday?

I don't think weather was responsible for the drops.

Hammock Parties 01-15-2020 08:55 PM

It just doesn't matter what the Titans do.

They could score 35 in this game.

Mahomes will score 36.

That's it. That's what's happening. He won't let them outscore him unless they get the ball last.

We are about to witness greatness.


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