we're gualitt all teh way!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Don&#39;t look for any movement from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bengals</a> on any of their &quot;key guys&quot; by the trade deadline Tuesday, at this time. I&#39;m told Cincinnati would still like to evaluate their roster when they get healthier after their bye this week.</p>&mdash; ig: josinaanderson (@JosinaAnderson) <a href="https://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1188870975145820160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You’re 0-8 Bengals. WTF

Mike Brown is a dumb****. And an asshole.

Banged up but getting healthier with an improving defense and the MVP coming back with an easier tilt to the schedule coming?

It's hard to admit this.

**** you Cinci...

**** you

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Redskins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Redskins</a> have told other teams they have a second-round pick on the table for LT Trent Williams. So it appears they’re holding out for a first-rounder. <a href="https://t.co/4zvN7CodUj">https://t.co/4zvN7CodUj</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1188918626931351555?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In addition to LT Trent Williams, the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Redskins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Redskins</a> are calling around trying to trade CB Josh Norman, per sources. Tough to get value right now: Norman is due almost $6 million for the rest of this season and hasn&#39;t been practicing because of thigh and hand injuries.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1188921300737282048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This. I mean wtf do some of you expect?

If the rams would move Talib for a 5 would you guys do that?

He's on IR and in the last year of his contract. The **** do you think?

Depends when he can return

Can he play LB?

ROFL

It’s a 5 for a rental

Make it a conditional 6 or something

He's. On. Injured. Reserve.

He can return

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Heard from a DC source about possible trades beyond Trent Williams, who has been trying to get out since the spring. I get the sense they&#39;d listen on Ryan Kerrigan and others (Josh Norman would be salary dump/little in return) beyond just Williams</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/1188913811102818304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are more options for trades at CB than perhaps any other position: Harris, Trufant, Jenkins, T Johnson, Norman. Cardinals say won&#39;t trade Peterson, but you never know. Some interest in Kirkpatrick too but Bengals say dont want to make trades (other than dumping C Glenn)</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/1188924364739284992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Why would anyone want Norman?

He’s eligible to return in week 15, so it would have to be a 6th or 7th rd for him

Yeah, and then you're hoping that a 33 year old CB coming off fractured ribs can play with no residual effects while learning a completely new scheme. I'm not optimistic.

Which is why I’d rather trade for Jenkins. He knows the system.

For like a 6th but it’s still just the money

**** there’s gotta be a decent player or two out there that can help

Is Jenkins better than Ward/Breeland?

I’d think not

Is Breeland 100%?

Dude has 4 INT’s this year. His ability to take the ball makes him an upgrade over Breeland IMO.

Probably not but I’m not sure that Jenkins is much better than Claiborne either.

All these guys are just ok, decent starters.

He's been toasted a lot this year. Not in the favor of the fan base that's for sure. He has gotten a few timely picks but while I don't know the stats, he sure seems to be struggling this year. I went to the Giants/Cardinals game last Sunday and he was running in circles a decent amount.

Renting Ogletree and Jenkins wouldn't be the worst idea if it's a lower pick. They'd only cost us 7 million in cap this year since we're responsible for half of their base salary, right?

That’s how I saw it, yeah. Although I think it’s around $9 million. $5 million for Jenkins and $4 million for Ogletree.

Idk they seem like knuckleheads who probably wouldn’t move the needle much.

But I’ll trust the personnel staff’s evaluations cause I haven’t watched their film.

Ogletree has a 4 million base for the entire year, I thought? That'd put it at 2 million we're on the hook for.

Yeah....I was wrong there. $7 million for both.

He cost a lot though. Need that money if they want to keep Jones (which seems like the plan)

Why are we keeping Jones?? Also Ward needs a extension end of next year

We also only have 2 CBs under contract for next year.

WARD AND FENTON ARE THE FUTURE!!

We are ONLY keeping Chris Jones because he is physic. He predicted the CHIEFS would be in the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME last January after the previous season. CJ knows what most can't even comprehend.

We have 3 losses in hand, fellas.

You think we're going 6-2 down the stretch? Even that kind of finish leaves us at 11-5; a good but by no means spectacular record. And that's probably the BEST we can manage over that period.

This isn't a statement that the sky is falling - it's that we already have 3 losses and the ceiling for the regular season has fallen accordingly.

So stop just trying to round every damn draft pick we have into the following round. It didn't make sense at any point and it makes even less sense now.

Not disputing your overall point but 11-5 is going to be the 2 seed in all likelihood. It’ll just come down to tiebreakers from there.

So there’s a real chance that KC picks in the bottom 4 of the round. And if they have Mahomes, I’d probably bet on it. Regardless of seed.

Gonna finish 8-0. Mahomes gets a back to back mvp, chiefs end up with the 1 seed

Just watch

Jenkins was a boom/bust, gambler of a CB at his apex. He was a poor man's Peters - would pick a ball off then get roasted 2 drives later.

Now he's simply a worse version of that same style of player. Yes, he's going to make some plays - but in the biggest games of our season, you don't really have to squint to see him turning in one of those "Dunta Robinson vs. the Colts" kind of performances.

He gives up a lot of plays; takes a bunch of Ls in coverage. I think the Chiefs need a guy who's going to go out there and be reliable more than they need a splashy, boom/bust addition, especially at the cost of $5 million in next season's rollover. I'll trade a W on a rep for 3 neutral plays every time if it saves 2 Ls in the process.

Many of us have been complaining about this defenses lack of cohesion and predictably solid players for the better part of 2-3 seasons. What they need are guys that just do what they're supposed to do so the other 10 players on the field can concentrate on doing their jobs. Inserting someone like Jenkins, who's a blown coverage waiting to happen on any given play, will only interfere with that, IMO.

I was talking more about Mecca’s doom and gloom post, not yours.

YEEESSSSSS!!!!

I bet Elway bites on this !!:LOL:

Perhaps.

But it requires a 6-2 finish to even get there. 10-6 is a distinct possibility and wouldn't require a heinous stretch to happen; a merely solid 5-3 finish puts us drafting in the 24 range, does it not? Though I think it'll take 12-4 to get to the 2 seed personally, especially with the losses to Houston and Indy.

I'm just saying that we need to stop acting like this is the team that some of us had going 14-2 a few weeks ago. That ship has sailed and it can't come back. Adjust accordingly.

T-minus 23 hours to the deadline....tick, tick, tick.

Houston isn’t getting to 12-4... I don’t see Baltimore getting there either with their schedule.

Basically it’s up to Indy. They might but that’s just not a team I fear come playoff time. Maybe that makes me a fool, I think we blow them up pretty good if the offensive weapons are all up.

But at 11-5, Houston still beats us due to the tiebreaker. As would Indy.

So if we want that 2 seed, they either have to be at 10-6 or we have to be at 12-4. I don't see that as a realistic possibility.

Or Baltimore gets to 11-5 too... highly possible

Chiefs have started the season hot and faltered late under andy a few times this year it just happened earlier

They’re about to get healthy and run off a 7-1 stretch

I can feel it in my plums

Feel any trades in those plums?

Maybe

Could be testicular cancer thoigh

Well to be fair after this weekend we play New England and 6 losing teams so who knows. I could see 12-4 as best case scenario assuming we beat the Vikings.

I don’t think we “faltered”. We were just beat the hell up and our QB was clearly hurting enough to affect performance.

Yeah I think so

Injuries happen to every team, but when it’s that many of your best players it just is what it is

But they built just enough cushion earlier to withstand it now it’s time to hammer down and finish the back half of this thing with a bang

Does that mean we are trading for Philip Gaines?

All of 63 pages and all those weeks talking about a trade that will never come. LMAO

The only reason people keep demanding a DB is because that was the thought before the season. We don’t need to trade the few picks we have for a marginal at best improvement. I’m glad we won’t be making a trade like that just for the sake of making a trade.

We do need to trade for a LB tho. DB no because Ward is a legit #1 CB

This.

Trading for anyone that isn’t going to actually make a difference is dumb as ****.

Contrary to the belief of many (seemingly), it isn’t all about 2019. The cap space we currently have, along with draft picks, will be huge when it comes to putting the best possible team around Mahomes beyond this year.

That doesn’t mean no trade is worth it, but it sure doesn’t look like one is coming that is...

If anything you probably have to keep your eye out for DE help.

Given Clark’s neck and Okafor’s injury last night.

Yup and it was very encouraging to see. Thornhill and Hardman look good too.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A few hunches on where some of the most-coveted trade options end up - AJ Green/Saints (if CIN ownership accepts reality and relents on trade talks) , Trent Williams/Browns, OJ Howard/Pats, Chris Harris/Eagles, Derek Wolfe/Colts, Des Trufant/Chiefs, Robby Anderson/Jags</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/1188998913304514562?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oh **** no to Trufant

He is controllable and isnt a FA till 2023 but he is about 15 mil per year on the cap

Howard is a classic Pats move.

Trufant has the ability to actually be a #1 tho

Ward would be our #1 with Trufant our #2 but both CBs play like #1s. Would take a third tho to get him since he is controllable

Can scratch off Howard getting traded at all

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Xavien Howard is questionable to return with a knee injury. A knee injury also kept him out the last two games.</p>&mdash; Cameron Wolfe (@CameronWolfe) <a href="https://twitter.com/CameronWolfe/status/1189006559042527233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ward has only started 10 games or so.

That's not enough of a sample size.

I like what we’ve seen from Ward but this is rich. He’s not a #1 yet. Just now scratching the surface as a true #2.

Since week 2 he’s the best CB in the league allowing a passer rating of 42.4 and has a averaged only allowing 27 yards caught against him a game

Saints with Green, Thomas and Kamara would be scary...

Yeah do not want

And that’s awesome but it needs to continue before he’s relied on as a true #1.

The argument for corner is pretty simple. Is it a huge need now? Maybe not.

But you add a dude there and your secondary becomes a legit strength to lean on.

How much longer do we need?

I've always wanted to add a top CB since the offseason and I still believe it is very much a need both on a short and long term perspective but the price is so high.