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Bambi 10-09-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 10996132)
Why do people still think this? Gill and Mangino are not on the books. Only Weis and whomever is the next HC will be on the books next year.

Consider the source. Dude is a terrible poster.

Bambi 10-09-2014 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996080)
GB's value, after being out of the game for nearly 10 years, is pretty low. A lot has changed in the last 10 years. There is a reason people aren't knocking down his door for a HC gig. So yeah, there are superior options to GB, including the guy they have at the spot today - Bowen.

Here's the thing. No one is going to work harder, be more loyal, and have a better understanding and passion for ku football than Bowen. He's 45, a Larryville native, ku alum, relates to his players, a good recruiter, has been a DC and knows the B12. His next most logical step is HC. Unless ku can put together a HR hire (which I doubt), why would you want to hire anyone else? ku needs to think in terms of building a Program, and less about flash. Weis was all hat and no cattle (ku's version of Ron Prince - with less success). Radio was in over his head from day 1. Bowen is your guy.

Gus Malzan and Harbaugh were ready to take the job last two times KU was in this situation.

Two of the best coaches in the game today. A "home run" hire doesn't matter until you see results.

Mr. Plow 10-09-2014 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996080)
GB's value, after being out of the game for nearly 10 years, is pretty low. A lot has changed in the last 10 years. There is a reason people aren't knocking down his door for a HC gig. So yeah, there are superior options to GB, including the guy they have at the spot today - Bowen.

Here's the thing. No one is going to work harder, be more loyal, and have a better understanding and passion for ku football than Bowen. He's 45, a Larryville native, ku alum, relates to his players, a good recruiter, has been a DC and knows the B12. His next most logical step is HC. Unless ku can put together a HR hire (which I doubt), why would you want to hire anyone else? ku needs to think in terms of building a Program, and less about flash. Weis was all hat and no cattle (ku's version of Ron Prince - with less success). Radio was in over his head from day 1. Bowen is your guy.

Good post.

ChiTown 10-09-2014 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10996185)
Gus Malzan and Harbaugh were ready to take the job last two times KU was in this situation.

Two of the best coaches in the game today. A "home run" hire doesn't matter until you see results.

Dude - just stop.

Bambi 10-09-2014 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10996111)
No KU would never hire a mizzou alum for any major job. I could be wrong thiugh since we hired a KSU one for AD and he hasn't done a damn thing. (Cue fans telling us about the great upgrades to the women's soccer practice field bathroom stalls)

Hiring a KSU or Mizzou alum has never worked out. Zenger has done a couple nice things but he isn't big time.

Bambi 10-09-2014 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996205)
Dude - just stop.

http://www.lostlettermen.com/article...er-gus-malzahn

Saul Good 10-09-2014 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996205)
Dude - just stop.

He's right.

ChiTown 10-09-2014 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10996214)

That's not the point. The point is, Malzahn would have treated the ku job the same way he treated the Arky State job. 1 yr and he's gone to the SEC. His record at ku wouldn't have been much if any better than Weis. Weis inherited a load of shit from Radio, just as Malzahn would have inherited.

Saul Good 10-09-2014 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996219)
That's not the point. The point is, Malzahn would have treated the ku job the same way he treated the Arky State job. 1 yr and he's gone to the SEC. His record at ku wouldn't have been much if any better than Weis. Weis inherited a load of shit from Radio, just as Malzahn would have inherited.

If he had sucked that first year at Kansas, Auburn wasn't going to offer him the job.

ChiTown 10-09-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10996225)
If he had sucked that first year at Kansas, Auburn wasn't going to offer him the job.

You mean like when Auburn hired Gene Chizik after going 3-9 and 2-10 at ISU?

Bambi 10-09-2014 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996219)
That's not the point. The point is, Malzahn would have treated the ku job the same way he treated the Arky State job. 1 yr and he's gone to the SEC. His record at ku wouldn't have been much if any better than Weis. Weis inherited a load of shit from Radio, just as Malzahn would have inherited.

Why do you think that? Do SEC coaches get paid that much more than KU coaches?

Is there less exposure? Bob Stoops, Mack Brown, Mike Gundy....these coaches are underexposed?

Those schools have KU on stadium size so I suppose if Malzan refused to coach anywhere with a stadium under 80k then you have a point.

But dude wanted the job. Zenger hired Weis. And here we are.

Saul Good 10-09-2014 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996232)
You mean like when Auburn hired Gene Chizik after going 3-9 and 2-10 at ISU?

Auburn was a completely different program at that time.

ChiTown 10-09-2014 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10996235)
Why do you think that? Do SEC coaches get paid that much more than KU coaches?

Is there less exposure? Bob Stoops, Mack Brown, Mike Gundy....these coaches are underexposed?

Those schools have KU on stadium size so I suppose if Malzan refused to coach anywhere with a stadium under 80k then you have a point.


But dude wanted the job. Zenger hired Weis. And here we are.

I'm not sure how to explain this to you. But, Gus Malzahn was a rental for whatever school he went to when he left Auburn to go to Arky State. He wasn't coming to ku to stay any longer there than he did at ASU. Once the AU job opened, he was gone - my point.

If you think that prospective Coaches look at the ku job the same as they look at a job in the upper half of the SEC, well, I can't help you.

ChiTown 10-09-2014 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10996247)
Auburn was a completely different program at that time.

They wanted Chizik, the same way they wanted Malzahn - success or not at their former Programs. They were both SEC guys. Chizik was a former FL alum and DC for AU. Malzahn spent time with AR and AU as an OC, and coached Cam Newton to a Heisman.

Saul Good 10-09-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996274)
They wanted Chizik, the same way they wanted Malzahn - success or not at their former Programs. They were both SEC guys. Chizik was a former FL alum and DC for AU. Malzahn spent time with AR and AU as an OC, and coached Cam Newton to a Heisman.

You may be right, but I don't think it was a foregone conclusion.

Lzen 10-09-2014 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10996150)
That's a step in the right direction, only paying two head coaches at a time. Keep that up. :D

Ahem...

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10996144)
Weis isn't going to be on the books either, he accepted a reduced buyout already. But carry on


Lzen 10-09-2014 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10996181)
Consider the source. Dude is a terrible poster.

Actually, I like Cochise. He just goes brain dead when it comes to discussing all things KU. I don't hold that against him. Happens to most MU fans. ;)

Prison Bitch 10-09-2014 10:09 AM

Moosters lose their minds over KU. Jealous of the success. As to buyouts, Gill's $6M buyout was made within 2 months of his termination as per his employment contract. It was funded entirely by boosters including Dana Anderson who footed $800k of it.

The canard "How many coaches is KU paying!?!?!?" was always dumb and factually incorrect. They've technically never been paying more than 1 at a time. But then, would we expect any diff from a Mooster?

Eleazar 10-09-2014 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 10996301)
Actually, I like Cochise. He just goes brain dead when it comes to discussing all things KU. I don't hold that against him. Happens to most MU fans. ;)

:p

Well, bambi saying you're terrible is a badge of honor, so I've got that going for me.

Lzen 10-09-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10996314)
Moosters lose their minds over KU. Jealous of the success. As to buyouts, Gill's $6M buyout was made within 2 months of his termination as per his employment contract. It was funded entirely by boosters including Dana Anderson who footed $800k of it.

The canard "How many coaches is KU paying!?!?!?" was always dumb and factually incorrect. They've technically never been paying more than 1 at a time. But then, would we expect any diff from a Mooster?

Aw geez, Gill. That guy should be charged for highway robbery. :doh!:

Prison Bitch 10-09-2014 10:58 AM

It's not robbery if it was offered.

Bambi 10-09-2014 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10996316)
:p

Well, bambi saying you're terrible is a badge of honor, so I've got that going for me.

crickets

Bambi 10-11-2014 04:51 PM

Feels good to not be the worst local team anymore.

chiefsfan987 10-11-2014 05:15 PM

wth? I just checked the score. We're tied? how on earth did that happen?

chiefsfan987 10-11-2014 05:19 PM

nevermind. I can't even turn the game on for five seconds without KU shatting themselves. Our special teams are just embarrassing.

Lzen 10-11-2014 05:21 PM

Guys got out of their lanes a bit. That's all hill needs. Uggh

Reerun_KC 10-11-2014 05:22 PM

Well shit.

Chief_For_Life58 10-11-2014 05:27 PM

I can hear them yelling they need to shut up over there at memorial im trying to watch the royals game cant they understand that

Bambi 10-11-2014 05:41 PM

Bowen. Helps when your team plays for the coach.

Mr_Tomahawk 10-11-2014 06:34 PM

Just got back from the game with my son.

Frustrating game...but it was nice to take a top 25 team down to the wire for a change. And we had the better of the two QBs today...don't say that often.

Al Czervik 10-11-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 11006498)
Just got back from the game with my son.

Frustrating game...but it was nice to take a top 25 team down to the wire for a change. And we had the better of the two QBs today...don't say that often.

Really cant see Cozart starting again unless Cummings gets hurt.....

Reerun_KC 10-11-2014 06:46 PM

Much better showing for Kansas

Mr_Tomahawk 10-11-2014 06:59 PM

I like Bowen and how he is energetic, a Jayhawk at heart, and the team seems to respond to him....but I would really like to get someone who has no connection to Chuck.

Ceej 10-11-2014 07:14 PM

Cozart hurt?

Mr_Tomahawk 10-11-2014 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 11006688)
Cozart hurt?

Naw, he just sucks.

Braincase 10-11-2014 09:07 PM

For the long term, there's something to be said about hiring the guy that thinks being the head coach at Kansas is the top of the mountain.

ArrowheadHawk 10-11-2014 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 11007009)
For the long term, there's something to be said about hiring the guy that thinks being the head coach at Kansas is the top of the mountain.

Let's give him a shot.

Saul Good 10-11-2014 09:25 PM

How in the hell did Weis think Cozart was the best QB on the roster?

Bambi 10-13-2014 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11007048)
How in the hell did Weis think Cozart was the best QB on the roster?


Weis is a complete disaster when it comes to QB talent evaluation.

Even though Crist did win that post season all star game MVP...

http://www.usatodaysportsimages.com/...25/6951312.jpg

ArrowheadHawk 10-18-2014 04:02 PM

This team is always a damn **** hair from competing. They just **** it up or just don't have the talent.

Reerun_KC 10-18-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 11025965)
This team is always a damn **** hair from competing. They just **** it up or just don't have the talent.

Weis was a combo of talent and **** up.

Bowen doesn't have any talent to work with.

Lzen 10-18-2014 04:13 PM

I don't get why everyone thought Regan was something special. We've had several 3rd and shorts and haven't converted a single one because we always run in that situation. C'mon, get creative!

kstater 10-18-2014 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 11025965)
This team is always a damn **** hair from competing. They just **** it up or just don't have the talent.

Competing for what?

Reerun_KC 10-18-2014 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 11025982)
Competing for what?

Your attention and validation....

ArrowheadHawk 10-18-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 11025982)
Competing for what?

I know you're just being an asshole but today KU has dropped easy long passes, interception that hit the numbers. Missed field goals, crappy punts. They are just slightly off whether it be talent or execution. They should be leading in this game.

Lzen 10-18-2014 04:22 PM

Eh, just ignore the Wildcat troll. It's not worth it.

Prison Bitch 10-18-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11025987)
Your attention and validation....

Repped

Reerun_KC 10-18-2014 04:52 PM

Well another loss.

ArrowheadHawk 10-18-2014 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11026044)
Well another loss.

Yep. This sucks.

Al Czervik 10-18-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11025987)
Your attention and validation....

LOL...dumbshit teed that one up about 4 inches high for you to crush

Reerun_KC 10-18-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 11026065)
LOL...dumbshit teed that one up about 4 inches high for you to crush

Yep went about 4 miles high and only 100 yards into the drink. Gonna need a new ball.

Bambi 10-18-2014 05:58 PM

Getting better. Bowen might be the guy.

Mr_Tomahawk 10-18-2014 06:55 PM

Missed the game today....don't know how we did overall, but I was hoping we would keep it to within a TD.

Damn, same 'ol story.

ArrowheadHawk 10-23-2014 03:35 PM

Recruit switches from Ohio State to Kansas

http://ohiostate.scout.com/story/147...medium=twitter

George Liquor 10-23-2014 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 11044191)
Recruit switches from Ohio State to Kansas

http://ohiostate.scout.com/story/147...medium=twitter

whut?



:thumb:

Braincase 10-23-2014 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 11044191)
Recruit switches from Ohio State to Kansas

http://ohiostate.scout.com/story/147...medium=twitter

Wow. Didn't see that coming.

From the LJW...

Link

Tight end Josh Moore decommits from Ohio State and picks Kansas

By Matt Tait

<small>Advertisement</small>


Score one for the Clint Bowen recruiting resume.
Thursday afternoon, JayhawkSlant.com reported that Josh Moore, a 6-foot-5, 250-pound tight end from nearby Olathe North High had switched his commitment from Ohio State to Kansas University.
Moore, who recently made a visit to KU with O-North teammate Isaiah Simmons (the 6-3, 195-pound brother of KU senior Victor Simmons), reportedly decided to switch to KU after being impressed by what he heard from Bowen, the Jayhawks' interim head coach, and his uneasy feelings about his commitment to Ohio State.
Class of 2015

Here's a look at the 2015 recruiting class as it looks so far.
KU oral commitments in Class of 2015

"I know he called up there and made a verbal commitment to Clint," Olathe North coach Gene Wier told Jon Kirby of JayhawkSlant. "He knows there isn't a head coach and it's hard to commit when there isn't one. But he likes what he has heard since Bowen took over. He didn't have any interest in KU before but now that has changed."
Wier told Kirby that Moore has been impressed by Bowen for a long time.
"When (Bowen) took over Josh mentioned he really liked him," Wier said. "I told him just to hang and see how things play out. I would say it is in a holding pattern and he's watching what is going to happen," Wier said.
Moore, a three-star prospect according to Rivals.com, becomes the 14th member of the Class of 2015 to commit to Kansas. Despite not knowing which head coach will lead them into the 2015 season, the Jayhawks are expected to sign a full class because of the number of departing seniors.
Simmons, a three-star safety who plays both offense and defense at O-North, has yet to make a commitment but holds offers from KU and Missouri.

Mr_Tomahawk 10-23-2014 07:56 PM

Welcome back Coach Warinner.

Saul Good 10-24-2014 07:43 AM

From what I've heard, tOSU recruited over him and pulled his offer. He may end up at Kansas, but he's still actively exploring his options. Meyer is an absolute snake, BTW.

Reerun_KC 10-24-2014 07:48 AM

Well we will take him....

Buehler445 10-24-2014 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11045860)
From what I've heard, tOSU recruited over him and pulled his offer. He may end up at Kansas, but he's still actively exploring his options. Meyer is an absolute snake, BTW.

I don't think anybody here is under the illusion that we're kiping the best and brightest stars from the Suckeyes.

But hopefully if the kid can CATCH THE MOTHER****ING FOOTBALL and not get his ass beat like a drum in the run game, we will most certainly take him.

Saul Good 10-24-2014 08:30 AM

The kid can play. I believe Mizzou will come after him again. Either way, I'd rather he be at Kansas than tOSU.

Bambi 10-24-2014 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 11044191)
Recruit switches from Ohio State to Kansas

http://ohiostate.scout.com/story/147...medium=twitter

His offer list is nice. Should be a nice player for us. The hole left by Mundine is going to be massive...

But Ben Johnson and Moore should be a nice combo moving forward the next few years.

Reerun_KC 10-24-2014 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11045884)
I don't think anybody here is under the illusion that we're kiping the best and brightest stars from the Suckeyes.

But hopefully if the kid can CATCH THE MOTHER****ING FOOTBALL and not get his ass beat like a drum in the run game, we will most certainly take him.


all of this....

Mr. Plow 10-24-2014 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11045925)
The kid can play. I believe Mizzou will come after him again. Either way, I'd rather he be at Kansas than tOSU.


This is one thing I dislike about college football. A "commitment" isn't really a commitment. It's more like a "Hey, I kind of like this team right now, so I'll go there. It probably will change though."

Saul Good 10-24-2014 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 11045939)
This is one thing I dislike about college football. A "commitment" isn't really a commitment. It's more like a "Hey, I kind of like this team right now, so I'll go there. It probably will change though."

It works both ways, though. Urban had a spot for him...until he signed a better player. Of course when Urban does it, it's usually because Jesus told him it was the right thing to do.

Bambi 10-24-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11045957)
It works both ways, though. Urban had a spot for him...until he signed a better player. Of course when Urban does it, it's usually because Jesus told him it was the right thing to do.

Who's the better player? Please... you keep mentioning it, let's see who you're talking about.

Buehler445 10-24-2014 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11045957)
It works both ways, though. Urban had a spot for him...until he signed a better player. Of course when Urban does it, it's usually because Jesus told him it was the right thing to do.

ROFL

Mr. Plow 10-24-2014 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11045957)
It works both ways, though. Urban had a spot for him...until he signed a better player. Of course when Urban does it, it's usually because Jesus told him it was the right thing to do.

I understand it works both ways. Just never liked it is all.

Saul Good 10-24-2014 09:07 AM

I know that Daniel Imatorbhebhe just visited, and he's supposedly a better player at the same position. No word on a commitment, but it happened right before Moore's offer got pulled (in a mutual decision that was totally mutual).

Bambi 10-24-2014 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11045981)
I know that Daniel Imatorbhebhe just visited, and he's supposedly a better player at the same position. No word on a commitment, but it happened right before Moore's offer got pulled (in a mutual decision that was totally mutual).

Where do you see his offer was pulled?

Bambi 10-24-2014 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11045981)
I know that Daniel Imatorbhebhe just visited, and he's supposedly a better player at the same position. No word on a commitment, but it happened right before Moore's offer got pulled (in a mutual decision that was totally mutual).

How is he better?

Here are their offer lists:

JOSH MOORE:

Kansas
Auburn
Florida St.
Iowa St.
Kansas St.
Minnesota
Missouri
Nebraska
Ohio St.
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
TCU
Texas Tech

DANIEL IMATORBHEBHE:

Boston Coll.
California
Cincinnati
Florida
Kentucky
Missouri
Nebraska
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Wake Forest

Prison Bitch 10-24-2014 09:26 AM

I wouldn't rely on Saul for KU information. That's like relying on a Pedo to babysit your kids

Saul Good 10-24-2014 09:28 AM

You aren't banned from the football thread? I think that's great.

Saul Good 10-24-2014 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11046016)
How is he better?

Here are their offer lists:

JOSH MOORE:

Kansas
Auburn
Florida St.
Iowa St.
Kansas St.
Minnesota
Missouri
Nebraska
Ohio St.
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
TCU
Texas Tech

DANIEL IMATORBHEBHE:

Boston Coll.
California
Cincinnati
Florida
Kentucky
Missouri
Nebraska
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Wake Forest

The issue seems to be that Moore is highly regarded as a defensive player, but he is hell bent on playing Tight End. As a Tight End, he is still a very good player, but he's not as sought after as DI.

Moore is likely the better overall player, but that doesn't mean much if he isn't willing to play defense.

Prison Bitch 10-24-2014 04:41 PM

Prob not often you've been analogized with a pedo but...here we are Saul

Bambi 10-24-2014 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11046786)
The issue seems to be that Moore is highly regarded as a defensive player, but he is hell bent on playing Tight End. As a Tight End, he is still a very good player, but he's not as sought after as DI.



Moore is likely the better overall player, but that doesn't mean much if he isn't willing to play defense.


What on Earth are you talking about?

Saul Good 10-29-2014 01:26 PM

Sounds like Moore is going to visit Mizzou.

Mr. Plow 10-29-2014 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11067281)
Sounds like Moore is going to visit Mizzou.

I'll admit I'm a novice when it comes to football recruiting - but that was my point. Why make a commitment if you are going to continue to explore your options? Why not just say "I haven't decided yet".

Braincase 10-29-2014 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11067281)
Sounds like Moore is going to visit Mizzou.

That's great. Thanks for letting us know.

Prison Bitch 10-29-2014 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 11067335)
I'll admit I'm a novice when it comes to football recruiting - but that was my point. Why make a commitment if you are going to continue to explore your options? Why not just say "I haven't decided yet".

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=952


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