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TigerPig 01-12-2010 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 6438936)
19 wins over his last 5 seasons is not good or even average...

Winning half or less than half of the games from the year before for two consecutive years is rough.

DaneMcCloud 01-12-2010 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6438931)
It's clear at this point that you have given up on sanity and are arguing for the sake of coming out as never being wrong.

I mean, were you not happy when Herm was fired?

Yes and no.

I liked the direction that Herm had pointed the franchise. For the first time in nearly 50 years, the team was to be built through the draft. So that part bummed me out when he fired.

As far as game day is concerned, yes, I'm glad Herm was fired. But in all honesty (and I've said this before), I wish he were allowed to see his vision through in regards to personnel because I think our roster would be far more talented at this point in time.

DaneMcCloud 01-12-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6438942)
I'm just giving you shit, Dane (although comparing Thigpen to Randall Cunningham is hilarious).

You deserve props...along with Hamas, etc....for calling most everything that happened this year.

But everyone on here is wrong at some point. And sometimes hilariously so.

Dude, you can "call me out" anytime.

Just please, do it in context.

TigerPig 01-12-2010 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6438959)
Yes and no.

I liked the direction that Herm had pointed the franchise. For the first time in nearly 50 years, the team was to be built through the draft. So that part bummed me out when he fired.

As far as game day is concerned, yes, I'm glad Herm was fired. But in all honesty (and I've said this before), I wish he were allowed to see his vision through in regards to personnel because I think our roster would be far more talented at this point in time.

Kinda like Cassel should be allowed more than a year to see what happens? Or why we should stick with Haley for at least two more years? Cause one bad year of results isn't enough to gauge a good coach/player?

Sweet Dick Willy 01-12-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6438942)
I'm just giving you shit, Dane (although comparing Thigpen to Randall Cunningham is hilarious).

You deserve props...along with Hamas, etc....for calling most everything that happened this year.

But everyone on here is wrong at some point. And sometimes hilariously so.

You're tempting me to release the Kraken. But if wait until the end of NEXT season and the results are the same if not worse, that is one EPIC Win.

The Kraken shall stay chained.


For now.

Pants 01-12-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6438959)
Yes and no.

I liked the direction that Herm had pointed the franchise. For the first time in nearly 50 years, the team was to be built through the draft. So that part bummed me out when he fired.

As far as game day is concerned, yes, I'm glad Herm was fired. But in all honesty (and I've said this before), I wish he were allowed to see his vision through in regards to personnel because I think our roster would be far more talented at this point in time.

Herm Edwards is not a good [NFL] Head Coach by any stretch of imagination. And you know this. Just because he might be able to evaluate talent, make his players like him and have the balls to start over, doesn't mean he's a good head coach. He was TERRIBLE.

Hammock Parties 01-12-2010 06:21 PM

Woop-doop-dee-doo!

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5392375)
Tamba Hali? Are you ****ing kidding me?


Hammock Parties 01-12-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willy (Post 6438966)
You're tempting me to release the Kraken. But if wait until the end of NEXT season and the results are the same if not worse, that is one EPIC Win.

The Kraken shall stay chained.


For now.

What teh **** is the Kraken? Essplain yoself.

WildTurkey 01-12-2010 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6438972)
Herm Edwards is not a good [NFL] Head Coach by any stretch of imagination. And you know this. Just because he might be able to evaluate talent, make his players like him and have the balls to start over, doesn't mean he's a good head coach. He was TERRIBLE.

54 wins in 8 seasons do the math that's below 7 wins a season... Herm was a mediocre coach at best.......

DeezNutz 01-12-2010 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6438980)
What teh **** is the Kraken? Essplain yoself.

It's an allusion to a mythical being, perhaps best known to many b/c of Clash of the Titans.

Titty Meat 01-12-2010 06:26 PM

Where'd BadGuy go?

Hammock Parties 01-12-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6438991)
It's an allusion to a mythical being, perhaps best known to many b/c of Clash of the Titans.

No shit. I'm wondering what it is as it relates to Chiefsplanet.

TigerPig 01-12-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6438994)
Where'd BadGuy go?

I don't know. But I can't figure out why someone would want to keep a coach in his third year who sent us to a 2-14 season, yet want to can a 1st year coach that follows him (and wins twice as many games as him).

Titty Meat 01-12-2010 06:28 PM

I like Dane but he has a liking for medicore coaches for some reason.

Calcountry 01-12-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 6416469)
I would be better than Clancy and all i know is masturbating pigs !

Time to change your avvy to sperm farmer.

Fish 01-12-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6438972)
Herm Edwards is not a good [NFL] Head Coach by any stretch of imagination. And you know this. Just because he might be able to evaluate talent, make his players like him and have the balls to start over, doesn't mean he's a good head coach. He was TERRIBLE.

The fact remains, he was a better game day coach than Todd Haley was this year. I fully expect Haley to overcome that though and improve dramatically. But he was worse than Herm ever was in his rookie coaching year.

Herm did a lot of things right for this franchise. He deserved quite a few of his criticisms, but not the hate that some bear.

Pants 01-12-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6439005)
I like Dane but he has a liking for medicore coaches for some reason.

By mediocre, you mean absolute garbage.

Titty Meat 01-12-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Calcountry (Post 6439011)
Time to change your avvy to sperm farmer.

Good to see you left the politics bubble. Obama is just too much?

Pants 01-12-2010 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 6439013)
The fact remains, he was a better game day coach than Todd Haley was this year. I fully expect Haley to overcome that though and improve dramatically. But he was worse than Herm ever was in his rookie coaching year.

Herm did a lot of things right for this franchise. He deserved quite a few of his criticisms, but not the hate that some bear.

Haley played like a man with nothing to lose, save a few dumbshit calls, and I don't blame him.

WildTurkey 01-12-2010 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6439022)
Haley played like a man with nothing to lose, save a few dumbshit calls, and I don't blame him.

and he still had double the wins that Herm had in his final year

TigerPig 01-12-2010 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6439022)
Haley played like a man with nothing to lose, save a few dumbshit calls, and I don't blame him.

+1 I think the point where he realized this was about halfway through the Eagles game.

DeezNutz 01-12-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6438996)
No shit. I'm wondering what it is as it relates to Chiefsplanet.

:evil:

The Bad Guy 01-12-2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6438994)
Where'd BadGuy go?

Here.

Sweet Dick Willy 01-12-2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6438953)
If all there was to coaching was motivating your team and making them all like you and want to play for you; Herm would have like 14 rings.

Which is why I believe he would not be as bad as some might think, coaching at the college level.

Sometimes, hindsight can be a formidable ally. If Herm is ready to accept his shortcomings and accept help in the areas that he is not strong in, he could very well have a fantastic program at the college level.

If Cowher decides to jump back in, and has learned how to build a team through observance of the success of others, and has embraced the importance of the Quarterback position; stand the **** back and look **** out.

Jussayin'.

The Bad Guy 01-12-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6438929)
Hey Badguy whats the word with Crennel? Why was today so silent?

I was told it should be wrapped tomorrow. Thet are discussing only the money aspect now.

OnTheWarpath15 01-12-2010 06:47 PM

Holy shit. Talk about being disingenuous. There's not a single football opinion on this board that isn't shared by SOMEONE.

Generally speaking, the vast majority thought that Cassel would be serviceable THIS year, that Thomas, Toomer et al would provide leadership and that coaching alone would lead to a .500 record or thereabouts.

Keep spinning, my wife just arrived at the restaurant. Toodles.

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6438879)
And you're certain how?
He had a carousel of WR's from the start of the off-season program until the final whistle blew on Week 17. The first 8 games we had no running game of which to speak. Or might it have been the ever-changing musical chairs style configurations of the offensive line? Or the undertalented collection of players on that side of the ball? Then there's an overburdened Head Coach acting as the offensive playcaller and QB coach.

You'll excuse me if I'm not ready to write him off just yet...



I think the overwhelming sentiment here was that 6 wins, even when considering the coaching, was the ceiling for this team. I'm not sure who you're talking about.



I think we know now that the assortment of WR's we had at the beginning was woefully insufficient. So had he been given the opportunity he might've made a Bobby Wade contribution to the team. His age worked against him more than anything else. We didn't have any world beaters at that position.



Take your time.
Again, I'm not sure what "insight" you all brought to the table. Everything you just posted was suggested by several different posters around the Planet.


Sweet Dick Willy 01-12-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6438980)
What teh **** is the Kraken? Essplain yoself.

The fact that you, with your photographic/hard-drive memory when it comes to all things Planet have NO idea what I'm referring to, makes it all the more delicious.

Dylan 01-12-2010 06:55 PM

Bengals re-sign defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer

http://www.twackle.com/NFL

textnfl #nfl Agent: Crennel wants to join Chiefs, but he also has talked to Giants http://bit.ly/7eyYGs
36 minutes ago

http://www.twackle.com/u/textnfl

Hammock Parties 01-12-2010 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willy (Post 6439057)
The fact that you, with your photographic/hard-drive memory when it comes to all things Planet have NO idea what I'm referring to, makes it all the more delicious.

Just do it.

I'M HERE! KILL ME!

http://i47.tinypic.com/314c9lf.jpg


PS -

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Sweet Dick Willy 01-12-2010 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 6439072)
Bengals re-sign defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer

http://www.twackle.com/NFL

textnfl #nfl Agent: Crennel wants to join Chiefs, but he also has talked to Giants http://bit.ly/7eyYGs
36 minutes ago

http://www.twackle.com/u/textnfl

Dangit Dylan; stop with all that Giants nonsense!:p

TigerPig 01-12-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6439095)
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Predator rep. :)

WildTurkey 01-12-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6439095)
Just do it.

I'M HERE! KILL ME!

http://i47.tinypic.com/314c9lf.jpg


PS -

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Dutch might be a good choice for DC forget Romeo

Dylan 01-12-2010 07:16 PM

Bill Sheridan expected to join the Dolphins as defensive coordinator

seaofred 01-12-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willy (Post 6439057)
The fact that you, with your photographic/hard-drive memory when it comes to all things Planet have NO idea what I'm referring to, makes it all the more delicious.


The "Kraken" is the Giant Octopus that destroys the Black Pearl and kills Captin Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean.

Sweet Dick Willy 01-12-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 6439154)
The "Kraken" is the Giant Octopus that destroys the Black Pearl and kills Captin Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean.

Is it? I always thought it was this guy:


http://miscellany.lolthulhu.com/wp-c...bio-kraken.jpg

Dylan 01-12-2010 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willy (Post 6439100)
Dangit Dylan; stop with all that Giants nonsense!:p

Sweet Dick, Are you trying to be witty here?

If I may ... I want a defensive coordinator with a great mind and is currently in the game -- I'm not looking for one that's at home sitting on their couch.

Delano 01-12-2010 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 6439304)
Sweet Dick, Are you trying to be witty here?

I want a defensive coordinator that is still in the game -- not one sitting home on the couch.

How'd a nitwit like DCS/RoR/lil Willy get so witty?
Posted via Mobile Device

Pioli Zombie 01-12-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6438687)
I picked the Chiefs to be 4-12 this year and actually won a $500 cash bet with a fellow Chiefs fan who thought they'd be at least 10-6 and in the playoffs (he also predicted the Raiders to be 2-14, the Broncos to be 2-14 and the Chargers to be 7-9).

Furthermore, I picked the Chiefs to be 2-14 in May of 2008.

Regardless of your opinion, I know this team quite well.

I predicted just about everything, from Ty Jackson's struggles to Clark influencing Haley to keep Gailey to Pioli using his scouting reports from New England to free agency spending and so on.

I find it absolutely shocking that so many people continue to question whether I'm right on wrong on a daily basis when I've posted the same things continually in this forum and I'm consistently proven correct.

He's Wile E Coyote. Super Genius.

Sweet Dick Willy 01-12-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 6439304)
Sweet Dick, Are you trying to be witty here?

If I may ... I want a defensive coordinator to still be in the game -- not one home sitting on the couch.

You already got yo' Super Bowl win in this decade, woman! Don't be stingy.

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 6439316)
How'd a nitwit like DCS/RoR/lil Willy get so witty?
Posted via Mobile Device

Go get Sweet Dick a beer, and he'll teach you how to play slide guitar.

Get!

Delano 01-12-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willy (Post 6439364)
You already got yo' Super Bowl win in this decade, woman! Don't be stingy.



Go get Sweet Dick a beer, and he'll teach you how to play slide guitar.

Get!

Did you mean greedy or wat?

IIRC, you take Coors Light? Yeah I'll get that for you. *pees in beer*
Posted via Mobile Device

Rausch 01-12-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Calcountry (Post 6439011)
Time to change your avvy to sperm farmer.

I think I got him beat...

Dylan 01-12-2010 08:25 PM

Candidate on current staff:

■ Dennis Thurman spent six seasons coaching Baltimore's secondary, four as the secondary coach, two as defensive assistant alongside Rex Ryan. During his Ravens tenure, the team led the NFL with 126 interceptions and 18 interception returns for touchdowns while he was coaching, among others, Ed Reed (34 INTs, 2002-07), Chris McAlister, Samari Rolle and Deion Sanders.

■ Before coming back to the NFL, he coached defensive backs at his alma mater, Southern Cal, for eight seasons (1993-2000).

■ He made his NFL coaching debut for the Phoenix Cardinals, coaching defensive backs for two seasons (1988-89).

PLAYING CAREER

■ Thurman was selected in the 11th round (306th overall) of the 1978 NFL Draft by Dallas.

■ He played nine years in the NFL as a CB and S, eight seasons with the Cowboys and one with the Cardinals.

■ He recorded 36 career interceptions (four returned for touchdowns) and played in Super Bowl XIII for the Cowboys in 1979.

■ A two-time All-America safety at USC, he was part of teams that won four bowl games and the 1974 national championship and was a teammate of future Hall of Famer Ronnie Lott. In his Trojans career he had 13 INTs, returning two for scores.

■ He played QB and DB at Santa Monica HS on three CIF Division I championship teams that combined to go 39-1-1.

Dylan 01-12-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 6439316)
How'd a nitwit like DCS/RoR/lil Willy get so witty?
Posted via Mobile Device

LMAO

Interesting read. How did they fare one year later?

Teams' defensive schemes shape their draft decisions

UPDATED: 04/21/2009

The NFL will have 10 new head coaches at the beginning of next season and more than twice as many new defensive coordinators, with nearly half of the league employing elements of the 3-4 defense. For some teams such as Baltimore, Arizona, Tennessee and San Diego, continuity was sought, and new coordinator hires came from within. In other cities, such as Dallas, Jacksonville and Chicago, the head coach has taken control of the defense to maximize its execution. But for most, fairly radical changes in approach can be expected.
Following is a team-by-team look at defensive philosophy shifts and how they can be expected to influence decisions on Draft Day. Teams making changes in schemes are marked with an asterisk.

Arizona Cardinals*
Under former defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast, the Cardinals employed a base 4-3 "under" front with 3-4 personnel, often operating out of "30" front packages, keeping SLB Chike Okeafor lined up outside the tight end but using DE Bertrand Berry or Travis LaBoy in the role of a "Predator" rusher on the other side, seldom dropping into coverage. With LB coach Billy Davis replacing Pendergast, the Cardinals can be expected to do much of the same but are expected to be even more aggressive zone-blitzing, with Davis having cut his teeth under Bill Cowher in Pittsburgh, Dom Capers in Carolina, Wade Phillips in Atlanta and Mike Nolan in San Francisco. More hybrid defensive end/rush linebackers are needed to leverage the edge, improve the Cardinals' power pass rush and make the defense work best.

Atlanta Falcons
Brian VanGorder may be the defensive coordinator, but make no mistake about it, head coach Mike Smith's fingerprints are all over the Falcons' 4-3 base defense, which relies heavily on ends to turn the corner, featuring big bodies inside to plug the middle and heavy zone coverage on the back end. The Falcons' ability to create more pressure inside with an in-the-middle, upfield penetrator would take significant pressure off the back end and lessen the need for corners to have to cover long, lessening the demand for an elite cornerback. Athletic big men who can rush the passer come at a premium, and the Falcons could use another to work in a rotation with underrated Jonathan Babineaux to maximize the effectiveness of the rotation.

Baltimore Ravens*
With Rex Ryan taking over the Jets' head-coaching reins, Ravens LB coach Greg Mattison is expected to keep the same, aggressive 3-4 defense that has worked so well for the last three coordinators - Marvin Lewis, Mike Nolan and Ryan - all of whom have graduated to the head-coaching position from the coordinator ranks. Ryan used a lot of zone-blitz principles that made his father, Buddy, popular, creatively disguising fronts while employing a lot of press-man coverage to dictate what offenses do. The ability to stack the line to free up linebackers to roam is central to the Ravens' scheme, and finding another instinctive 'backer who can flow fast to the ball alongside Ray Lewis (replacing Bart Scott) will be needed to keep the defense at the top of the league.

Buffalo Bills
Defensive coordinator Perry Fewell was groomed under Lovie Smith in St. Louis and Chicago before joining the Bills as coordinator. The key to the Bills' single-gap, 4-3 defense is being able to generate front-four pressure on its own, flying at the snap and screaming up the field. Safeties frequently interchange and roll up into the box, but heavy two-deep zone coverage is employed with a lot of man-off coverage on the flanks. The Bills did not generate enough of a pass rush with its front last year and could use another pass rusher capable of rushing from either the right or left side to maximize the scheme.

Carolina Panthers*
With Mike Trgovac moving on to coach the D-line in Green Bay, former Colts defensive coordinator Ron Meeks will be assigned the task of maximizing Julius Peppers' ability, provided the Panthers can pacify Peppers and do not deal him on Draft Day. John Fox will still be heavily involved with running the defense, with his philosophy being similar to Meeks', but the Panthers will not make a wholesale personnel philosophy shift toward undersized players. Versatility and speed are heavily valued at the LB position, where the Panthers like to be able to interchange their 'backers. They need to get bigger inside and perhaps find a potential replacement for the unhappy Peppers to keep the defense functioning at a high level.

Chicago Bears*
With Bob Babich essentially being demoted to coach linebackers and Lovie Smith taking over the defense, a renewed emphasis will be placed on the defensive line creating pressure up front, with Rod Marinelli's detailed eye expected to maximize front-four pressure. The Bears' base 4-3 defense was very vanilla last season with a front four that both struggled to create pressure on its own and too often did not keep blockers occupied, limiting the efficiency of aging MLB Brian Urlacher. There is a premium on secure tackling in the back seven because a bad play call can shift the front the wrong way and open gaping holes in the defense, forcing linebackers and safeties to make a lot of five-yard collisions, and in turn making it difficult for safeties such as Mike Brown to stay healthy. To be efficient, the Bears need to find a smart, secure-tackling safety who understands angles to replace Brown.

Cincinnati Bengals
Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer runs a traditional, fast-flowing 4-3 defense that he learned under Barry Switzer in Dallas, and he seeks to become more aggressive after spending his first year implementing the system last year. The interior tackles need to be disruptive and draw attention away from wide edge rushers crashing the corner. A high premium is placed on speed, and Antwan Odom struggled to provide enough in his first season in Cincinnati last year. Linebackers need to flow fast to the ball, and as long as Keith Rivers can stay healthy, the group is very solid. A lot of zone coverage is used on the back end, with Johnathan Joseph and Leon Hall proving capable, but a safety with more range could be used to help over the top.

Cleveland Browns*
The Browns opened themselves up to criticism last season for too often allowing personnel packages to dictate their personnel. Even though they scout to play a "30" front, they too often wound up in "40" looks as they were forced to go to nickel packages, as opposing offenses wanted to get their linebackers off the field and exploit their average cornerbacks. New defensive coordinator Rob Ryan operated out of a "40" base front in Oakland, but this is Eric Mangini's defense. It will be a complex blend of pressure packages based out of the "30" front, often featuring eight men in the box and heavily involving safeties in blitz packages. Big, physical corners are needed to reroute receivers and man short zones, which the Browns are lacking, as well as an explosive edge rusher with Kamerion Wimbley struggling to develop his pass-rush repertoire and proving to be a one-trick pony last season.

Dallas Cowboys*
Wade Phillips was forced to take over the defense after relieving Brian Stewart late last season and enters the season as the de facto defensive coordinator. Philllips has shifted to the 4-3 "under" defense with 3-4 personnel that he used in San Diego, moving away from the more traditional, pure 3-4 defense that Bill Parcells had installed. In DeMarcus Ware, the Cowboys have the NFL's pre-eminent rush linebacker and a feared pass rush. Igor Olshansky and Keith Brooking were signed to replace the departed Chris Canty and Zach Thomas, keeping the front seven very strong, and should allow Phillips to be more aggressive blitzing. The secondary features a shutdown cornerback in Terence Newman but, despite signing Gerald Sensabaugh in free agency, could still use more range at the safety position.

Denver Broncos*
Mike Nolan is expected to flop in and out of even and odd fronts to maximize his personnel, with the Broncos not currently featuring the big bodies needed on the line to easily run a "30" front. They will need to make the front seven a major focus in this year's draft if Nolan is going to flexibly be able to shift between fronts. The secondary was completely revamped in free agency with the additions of Brian Dawkins, Renaldo Hill and Andre Goodman opposite Champ Bailey, which should allow Nolan to be very aggressive blitzing. However, D.J. Williams does not have enough length to rush the passer, and a rush linebacker is still desired along with a more stout nose tackle than free-agent addition Ronnie Fields.

Detroit Lions*
Gunther Cunningham, who helped groom Jim Schwartz in Tennessee, reunited in Detroit with his former understudy and has begun to install a traditional 4-3 front similar to the one formerly employed in Tennessee, where the defensive ends were never reduced down inside but aligned wide outside to crash the corner, with big-bodied pluggers clogging the middle. An emphasis is placed on speed at the LB position, with a need to fly fast to the ball, and corners needing to excel in zone coverage, with an aggressive array of zone blitzes. With the addition of OLB Julian Peterson, the Lions have plenty of talent at the LB position, but they need to become more stout inside (free-agent addition Grady Jackson should help) to improve the NFL's worst run defense, and need to upgrade the pass rush.

Green Bay Packers*
Dom Capers will switch Bob Sanders' former 4-3 "over" front to a base 3-4 look and is expected to heavily use zone-blitz packages. However, SLB Brady Poppinga may not have enough pass-rush ability to make the system work, which could leave Green Bay using more "40" fronts this season if they do not add another 3-4 rush linebacker through the draft. More size and overall depth is also needed up front, with Justin Harrell not having been able to stay healthy and currently being slated to start.

Houston Texans*
Frank Bush served as defensive assistant the last two years before replacing defensive coordinator Richard Smith and will keep the same 4-3 base defense intact. He is expected to be more aggressive bringing pressure, which the Texans struggled to do from the defensive interior. The back seven was a bigger problem, with injuries hitting hard. Dunta Robinson returns from injury, but the Texans need to improve at cornerback, where Jacques Reeves too often was torched, to become more aggressive.

Indianapolis Colts*
Colts head coach Jim Caldwell, an offensive-minded skipper, decided to go in a different direction with the defense after Tony Dungy announced his retirement, replacing Ron Meeks with Larry Coyer. Coyer was able to successfully stop the run in Denver with a fast-flowing, blitz-intensive variation of the Tampa-2 defense that he continued to tweak last season as DL coach in Tampa Bay, where Monte Kiffin used more eight-man fronts and safety pressure to stuff the run. The Colts will still maintain their philosophy of drafting fast, undersized football players who may not fit well in other schemes, but Coyer needs more help on the interior defensive line if the team wants to avoid getting gashed the way it was a year ago after an off-the-field incident forced Bill Polian to release DT Ed Johnson.

Jacksonville Jaguars*
Mel Tucker comes from Cleveland to replace Gregg Williams, but the Jaguars are not expected to stray from their traditional "40" front preferred by head coach Jack Del Rio, who remains heavily involved in coordinating the defense. Del Rio prefers big bodies inside to clog up the middle, freeing up his linebackers to scrape and flow, and wide speed rushers who can bring enough heat to take pressure off frequent man-coverage assignments given to the Jaguars' cornerbacks. A big key for the Jaguars this season will be reaping the big investment they made in Derrick Harvey, who was slowed by a prolonged contract holdout prior to last season and did not live up to his high draft expectations.

Kansas City Chiefs*
The Chiefs, who previously had run a 4-3 "under" front under the watch of Herman Edwards and Gunther Cunningham, quickly began collecting the linebackers needed to transition to GM Scott Pioli's preferred 3-4 front, securing Mike Vrabel via trade and signing Zach Thomas and Monty Beisel. A young secondary is well-suited to continue playing heavy two-deep zone coverage, but much more size up front is critical to the transition, with neither Turk McBride nor Glenn Dorsey possessing the natural length desired to stack the corner. Initially, defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast may have to operate out of the 4-3 "under" base he employed last year in Arizona, incorporating 3-4 packages to create pressure, until the Chiefs can acquire better personnel.

Miami Dolphins
Defensive coordinator Paul Pasqualoni, who has received high marks from evaluators as a head-coach-in-waiting, has done a fine job of running Bill Parcells' preferred 3-4 front that he learned in Dallas, featuring a big, strong, physical front seven that controls the line of scrimmage. The Dolphins are young on the line, having landed Phillip Merling and Kendall Langford in last year's draft, but they are getting long in the tooth at outside linebacker, where Joey Porter really fell off late last season, and need to find some power pass rushers to keep the heat on the quarterback. A nickel cornerback is also heavily needed to be aggressive blitzing after the Dolphins lost Andre Goodman to the Broncos in free agency.

http://m.profootballweekly.com/draft...E886AE993.wap2

Dylan 01-13-2010 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willy (Post 6439364)
You already got yo' Super Bowl win in this decade, woman! Don't be stingy.



Go get Sweet Dick a beer, and he'll teach you how to play slide guitar.

Get!

Ah, you know I always root for you guys.

Honestly, I can't wait for the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl -- Their fans deserve to be happy!

You will, you'll see. ;)

Dylan 01-13-2010 12:26 AM

I'm glad Haslett is off the radar!

Breaking! Redskins dip into UFL to make Jim Haslett defensive coordinator
Jim Haslett is headed back to the NFL.

The former Rams and Saints head coach is joining the Redskins as defensive coordinator, ESPN and NFLN reported.

Haslett coached the UFL's Florida Tuskers to the league's championship game last season. In 2008, he served as interim head coach of the Rams for 12 games (with a 2-10 record) after Scott Linehan was dismissed.

He was also the Saints' head coach from 2000-2005. He went 45-51 with one playoff appearance in his tenure.

Haslett may introduce a 3-4 scheme as the Redskins retool under new head coach Mike Shanahan. -- Sean Leahy

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/index

Sweet Dick Willy 01-13-2010 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 6440051)
Ah, you know I always root for you guys.

Honestly, I can't wait for the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl -- Their fans deserve to be happy!

You will, you'll see. ;)

Right On! High Five!

Sweet Dick Willy 01-13-2010 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 6440075)
I'm glad Haslett is off the radar!

Breaking! Redskins dip into UFL to make Jim Haslett defensive coordinator
Jim Haslett is headed back to the NFL.

The former Rams and Saints head coach is joining the Redskins as defensive coordinator, ESPN and NFLN reported.

Haslett coached the UFL's Florida Tuskers to the league's championship game last season. In 2008, he served as interim head coach of the Rams for 12 games (with a 2-10 record) after Scott Linehan was dismissed.

He was also the Saints' head coach from 2000-2005. He went 45-51 with one playoff appearance in his tenure.

Haslett may introduce a 3-4 scheme as the Redskins retool under new head coach Mike Shanahan. -- Sean Leahy

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/index

I know nothing about the Giants. I know no history or anything of that nature. I know you have a kick-ass new stadium, though I think you were somewhat over-charged in terms of the overall magnificence/presentation.
But then again, it's not a glorified Texas whore house like Jerry built.
I know some Giants fans were pissed at both the new prices and the way their season ticket seats were "reorganized".
Do Giants fans consider the Jets to be a "Jersey Team"? What's up with that?

Titty Meat 01-13-2010 01:51 AM

Haslett sucks

DaneMcCloud 01-13-2010 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6440154)
Haslett sucks

Only in the past 15 years

Titty Meat 01-13-2010 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6440159)
Only in the past 15 years

How long has he been in the league? He reminds me ALOT of Gunther and sure his defense in St.Louis didn't have alot of talent but it was predictable.

DaneMcCloud 01-13-2010 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6440162)
How long has he been in the league? He reminds me ALOT of Gunther and sure his defense in St.Louis didn't have alot of talent but it was predictable.

that was a joke

Titty Meat 01-13-2010 02:09 AM

Dane do you like Haslett too?

Sweet Dick Willy 01-13-2010 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6440179)
Dane do you like Haslett too?

Who? Fill in, please.

DaneMcCloud 01-13-2010 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6440179)
Dane do you like Haslett too?

No, I think he's awful.

Shanahan thought otherwise.

I have to say, Haynesworth at NT in a 3-4 is definitely intriguing.

It all depends on whether or not he actually wants to play.

Titty Meat 01-13-2010 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6440189)
No, I think he's awful.

Shanahan thought otherwise.

I have to say, Haynesworth at NT in a 3-4 is definitely intriguing.

It all depends on whether or not he actually wants to play.

Shannahan hasn't had a great track record with Defensive coaches really. It would be interesting to see if Washington really was interested in Crennel.

I'm kind of glad the Chiefs didn't end up signing Haynesworth he's certainly a gamble.

booger 01-13-2010 02:21 AM

Haslett was said to want to bring Krumrie as his DL coach wherever he landed. They did interview former giants DL coach mike Waufle today though.

TigerPig 01-13-2010 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6440194)
Shannahan hasn't had a great track record with Defensive coaches really. It would be interesting to see if Washington really was interested in Crennel.

I'm kind of glad the Chiefs didn't end up signing Haynesworth he's certainly a gamble.

I know I'll get flamed for this, but I'm REALLY glad we haven't signed some huge contract for a player when we still have no true identity for this team. We have a bit clearer picture on defense, but its still sketchy. Even this year I'd be happy with signing a FA, but last year it would have been a piss-poor idea.

I actually would only like to see one big acquisition, and that's Wilfork. I could be wrong, but I think putting someone like him in the very core of our offense is like plugging up a leak. The running D would almost HAVE to get better, and that would allow our other players to get even better on the pass too. I think with a stud NT we'd have a good defense. Not DAMN good (yet) but good.

wild1 01-13-2010 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised on Sweet Dick (Post 6438802)
Put in your mouth?

So hilarious.

BigRedChief 01-13-2010 07:06 AM

Crennel signed the papers last night. Paperwork has been filed with the NFL. The deal is done.

ForeverChiefs58 01-13-2010 07:13 AM

Crennel, Chiefs courtship bogs down
Posted by Mike Florio on January 13, 2010 7:38 AM ET
Amid reports that former Browns coach Romeo Crennel will become the next defensive coordinator of the Chiefs, Crennel's agent says that the job has not yet been offered to Crennel.

"Would he take it if they offered the job?" agent Joe Linta told the Kansas City Star. "I suppose he would."

Linta told the Star that Crennel has discussed the position with Chiefs coach Todd Haley. Linta also said that the Chiefs get the "first shot," and that four other teams are interested in Crennel.

One such team is the Giants. We've also heard that the Redskins made a run at him, but the Redskins have since hired Jim Haslett.

The Dolphins also could be interested, which would pit Chiefs G.M. Scott Pioli against his father-in-law, Miami V.P. of football operations Bill Parcells.

Regardless of how it all works out, putting public pressure on the Chiefs likely isn't an ideal strategy. Unless Linta's ultimate objective is to place Crennel elsewhere.

old_geezer 01-13-2010 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6440322)
Crennel signed the papers last night. Paperwork has been filed with the NFL. The deal is done.

PBJPBJPBJ Thank you, thank you, thank you. Weis and Crennel are huge upgrades over what we had (or didn't have).

BigRedChief 01-13-2010 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old_geezer (Post 6440334)
PBJPBJPBJ Thank you, thank you, thank you. Weis and Crennel are huge upgrades over what we had (or didn't have).

Reminder, I got the info about the meeting between Pioli, Clark and Haley the last week of the season and out of that Crennel and Weiss being offered the jobs 2 weeks ago from "the source". Everything since then is from another contact. So take this with a grain of salt.

InChiefsHeaven 01-13-2010 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6440322)
Crennel signed the papers last night. Paperwork has been filed with the NFL. The deal is done.

THen what the **** is up with post ForeverCHiefs58's post?

BigRedChief 01-13-2010 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 6440343)
THen what the **** is up with post ForeverCHiefs58's post?

Don't know. just passing along what I heard. Flori has been so FOS on so many occasions. This may be another.

Warrior5 01-13-2010 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 6440343)
THen what the **** is up with post ForeverCHiefs58's post?

Somebody's lyin'.

BigRedChief 01-13-2010 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warrior5 (Post 6440375)
Somebody's lyin'.

And as usual its Florio.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by booger (Post 6440201)
Haslett was said to want to bring Krumrie as his DL coach wherever he landed.

Some poor team is in for three years of hell. LMAO

Sweet Dick Willy 01-13-2010 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6440548)
Some poor team is in for three years of hell. LMAO

"I want chick-en, I want liv-er"...

Mr_Tomahawk 01-13-2010 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booger (Post 6440201)
Haslett was said to want to bring Krumrie as his DL coach wherever he landed. They did interview former giants DL coach mike Waufle today though.

Coaching news; notes

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sp...-81370337.html

...The Redskins hired Lou Spanos as their linebackers coach today. He spent 16 seasons as a defensive assistant, including 15 as an assistant linebacker coach. He was with Pittsburgh when new Redskins coordinator Jim Haslett served in that same role with the Steelers in the late 1990s.
...Heard that Bob Slowik will join the staff in some capacity and it sounds as if Bobby Turner will accept the job of coaching the running backs. At one point, it appeared that all the Jim Zorn assistants would be fired, but not sure about that now. Special teams coach Danny Smith is a candidate to return, though my strong hunch is that he has options. Smith is considered one of the best special teams coaches and this is a year where there there are multiple openings. The Redskins job is his to lose, according to one NFL source.
...One player touted Scott Wachenheim as someone he'd like to see coach the offensive line. However, if he stays it's likely it would be as a tight ends coach.
...No word on Jerry Gray or Steve Jackson. One or both may stay, but clearly Gray would not be in the role he coveted. There's a definite feeling that he did not help himself with how he handled the interview situation in December. That could cost him a shot at a decent job.
...Left tackle Chris Samuels said he'll see his doctor in three or four weeks before making a final decision on whether or not to retire. Every time we talk to him, he seems very much at peace with not playing again. And if this injury proves to be a career-ender, he'll get a nice insurance payment every year. Could be as much as $300,000.
"I want to play. I love to play the game. But at this point in my life, health is first," Samuels said.
...Can the Redskins run the 3-4 defense? Don't know, but here's a little breakdown on their personnel. By the way, Spanos is well-versed in the 3-4 having used that in Pittsburgh. So that will help.
...If Tim Krumrie does come to coach the Redskins to coach the defensive line, one NFL source who knows him well said he'd love to see the interaction between he and Albert Haynesworth.
"That would be worth the price of admission," the source said. "Tim works out like a maniac. He will body slam him."

booger 01-13-2010 08:05 PM

Carl Crennel II

His nephew has some experience as the O. quality control coach when they were with the browns.

I don't they'd give him anything but entry level hear though.

http://clevelandgladiators.com/team/...ml?staff_id=25

Sure-Oz 01-13-2010 08:52 PM

TWITTER FTW

@coryodonnell#chiefs d-coordinator Romeo Crennel on my plane ATL to KC! Hope he got the job.

30 minutes ago

The Bad Guy 01-13-2010 08:58 PM

They are going to announce him tomorrow I would imagine if he's on the plane to KC.

DeezNutz 01-13-2010 09:04 PM

Sure-Oz could ****ing track anyone in the country via Twitter.

Dude makes me scared to leave the house.

Sure-Oz 01-13-2010 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6442845)
Sure-Oz could ****ing track anyone in the country via Twitter.

Dude makes me scared to leave the house.

ROFL This is sig worthy

Mr. Flopnuts 01-13-2010 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6442749)
TWITTER FTW

@coryodonnell#chiefs d-coordinator Romeo Crennel on my plane ATL to KC! Hope he got the job.

30 minutes ago

Jesus **** dude. How do you find that shit?

Sure-Oz 01-13-2010 09:11 PM

LOL, i do searches sometimes and do #chiefs and found it and then someone on my tweetlist Retweeted it as well.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-13-2010 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6442882)
LOL, i do searches sometimes and do #chiefs and found it and then someone on my tweetlist Retweeted it as well.

Nice. Thanks for the tips.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-13-2010 09:13 PM

You should quote that post and copy and paste it into your sig. It'll look better IMO.

Sure-Oz 01-13-2010 09:13 PM

@coryodonnell called me as he was boarding his flight to Kansas City... #Chiefs new def. coordinator Romeo Crennell is on his plane. 14 minutes ago from mobile web

Here's another one referring to that tweet, must be a friend of this person.

Sure-Oz 01-13-2010 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6442895)
You should quote that post and copy and paste it into your sig. It'll look better IMO.

Ahh will do, it's been forever since ive messed with my avy or sig lol


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