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BlackOp 04-19-2025 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 18034597)
If the board falls the way I think it will, I’d have zero qualms over taking Burden.

If he's there and KC selects him...it potentially puts the Chiefs in a good financial position.

If Brown stays healthy, he's going to want to get paid...and Rice has said he wants to reset the market.

I think WR money is incredibly inflated so keeping that position in check is crucial for fielding a balanced team.

TomBarndtsTwin 04-19-2025 02:48 PM

I have heard many talk about taking a D-Lineman at 31 or possibly a RB to fill the positions of ‘need’, but if the draft is really as deep as everyone says it is (including Veach about RB’s), wouldn’t it make more sense to take the BPA from the ‘thinner’ positions?

You know you can get a solid impact RB or certain D-Line guys in the 4th round, so maybe the focus should really be on an impact position like WR, S, or OT, where you’re likely NOT getting an impact guy in the 4th round.

If the depth is so great (at certain positions) then take advantage and plan accordingly!

Best22 04-19-2025 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 18034386)
The thing is Pickens just isn't what people think he is, man. And his attitude is probably the thing holding him back from being elite.

Pickens attitude isn't what made us end up with Skyy Moore. Getting antsy and feeling the pressure to draft a WR in that spot at all is what made us end up with Skyy Moore.

Pickens also had worrying injury history and didn’t put up the production that Luther Burden has

I thought he’d be another UGA receiver, all hype no production (to say nothing of how injury prone I thought he’d be). Turned out I was wrong on Pickens

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-19-2025 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 18034664)
I have heard many talk about taking a D-Lineman at 31 or possibly a RB to fill the positions of ‘need’, but if the draft is really as deep as everyone says it is (including Veach about RB’s), wouldn’t it make more sense to take the BPA from the ‘thinner’ positions?

You know you can get a solid impact RB or certain D-Line guys in the 4th round, so maybe the focus should really be on an impact position like WR, S, or OT, where you’re likely NOT getting an impact guy in the 4th round.

If the depth is so great (at certain positions) then take advantage and plan accordingly!

It's actually the other way around ironically. It's best to choose earlier out of a larger pool than out of a smaller pool for talent quality. Think of it like this, if you choose the 4th best player out of a pool of 25 you're technically getting a better player than 84%of the group. If you select the 4th best out of a pool of 10 then you're getting a better player than 50%.

I want a playmaker WR. Fill in the rest latter

Coochie liquor 04-19-2025 06:34 PM

When is Arroyo being projected to be drafted? Would love to find a way to get him.

ToxSocks 04-19-2025 08:51 PM

WR doesnt make much sense. And Andy Reid sure AF is not going to tolerate a guy that doesn't practice hard.

Yeah, the HC who's notorious for having some of the toughest practices in the NFL is going to draft a guy that doesnt like to practice.

Keep dreaming, dudes.

Tribal Warfare 04-19-2025 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 18034664)
I have heard many talk about taking a D-Lineman at 31 or possibly a RB to fill the positions of ‘need’, but if the draft is really as deep as everyone says it is (including Veach about RB’s), wouldn’t it make more sense to take the BPA from the ‘thinner’ positions?

You know you can get a solid impact RB or certain D-Line guys in the 4th round, so maybe the focus should really be on an impact position like WR, S, or OT, where you’re likely NOT getting an impact guy in the 4th round.

If the depth is so great (at certain positions) then take advantage and plan accordingly!

You can never have enough passrushers due to injury and FA(2026)

If you can pull as many functional pieces at said position you don't hesitate with the selections

staylor26 04-19-2025 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ToxSocks (Post 18034958)
WR doesnt make much sense. And Andy Reid sure AF is not going to tolerate a guy that doesn't practice hard.

Yeah, the HC who's notorious for having some of the toughest practices in the NFL is going to draft a guy that doesnt like to practice.

Keep dreaming, dudes.

Damn man I was just thinking the other day that I haven't seen you on here in a minute.

Where have you been dude? Everything good?

Kiimo 04-20-2025 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ToxSocks (Post 18034958)
WR doesnt make much sense. And Andy Reid sure AF is not going to tolerate a guy that doesn't practice hard.

Yeah, the HC who's notorious for having some of the toughest practices in the NFL is going to draft a guy that doesnt like to practice.

Keep dreaming, dudes.


I mean, I guess so? Sure, Andy Reid has hard practices, but he I think also believes in his culture fixing dudes, which honestly has a pretty good track record.

BlackOp 04-20-2025 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ToxSocks (Post 18034958)
WR doesnt make much sense.

It does if you consider Watson is no longer on the team, Rice is facing a potential suspension and Brown/JuJu are on one year deals. There is a chance this is Kelce's last season too...

It takes a good part of a season for a rookie WR to fully grasp the system. 2026 will be Rice's final season on his rookie deal. If someone is there they like, it wouldnt be a shock at all. WR has become a very expensive position..keeping it constantly stocked with cheap contacts is a smart move

DE/WR/CB is the play IMO...maybe a LT. They haven't shown the tendency to draft interior DL early with Jones being the exception.

O.city 04-20-2025 07:29 AM

They hadn’t drafted WRs high…till they did

Hadn’t drafted linebackers high…til they did

They may not take a dt but I’d guess it’s more because no one they like is there

BlackOp 04-20-2025 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 18035082)
They hadn’t drafted WRs high…till they did

Hadn’t drafted linebackers high…til they did

They may not take a dt but I’d guess it’s more because no one they like is there

If I were a GM and had two players rated similar, I would take the more expensive position to replace. Other factors come into play too...like how deep a particular position is in a given year and how my current contracts are staggered. If it's deep at DT/DE...what's the talent drop off between #4 and #8.

These guys do this all day, every day...so I'm assuming they not only research the current class but the 2026 class too. Getting an idea on what positions will be deep a year from now.

RealSNR 04-20-2025 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 18035045)
I mean, I guess so? Sure, Andy Reid has hard practices, but he I think also believes in his culture fixing dudes, which honestly has a pretty good track record.

I think with the team in reasonable striking distance of a Super Bowl every year now, and also probably from being on the older side, Andy gives less and less a shit about changing young player attitudes or reforming them to be team first guys.

RunKC 04-20-2025 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18034657)
Oh, I wasn’t responding directly to you. It was a general response. Point being, if by the logic that a player of Simmons’ talent is rarely available to the Chiefs, the same can be applied to Burden.

I mean, shoot, if Burden had done the Jamar Chase (and sat out his jr year) he’d be the first WR off the board with the way he tested.

You can get good WR’s with lower assets (hello Worthy and Rice). You cannot get a LT. It never happens.

You aren’t getting a good LT in FA. Teams will not let those guys hit the market. And you won’t get them later in the draft either.

Jaylon Moore is simply the next Kingsley Suamatia, Wanya Morris or Donovan Smith. He’s a lottery ticket that even the Chiefs don’t have much faith in per his contract, and for good reason. He’s not even a good lottery ticket. He’s a below average one. He played in a protected run first scheme that helped him. That’s not what we do here. His ass is gonna have it rough. He’ll be on an island way more and I’m not confident he can hold up..


As for the draft, this class isn’t great. There are no Joe Alt’s. But guess what? That doesn’t matter bc we’d never have a shot at one anyway. There are a couple of guys who could be “average” starters which makes the class considered “weak”. You guys realize an average LT changes everything right? We haven’t had an average LT since Eric Fisher and we saw what happened.

Josh Simmons is 100% on this teams draft board based upon traits, size, film and versatility. He is a top 10 pick if he doesn’t get injured. Whether he stays on our board will be due to Rick Burkholder, and I’d bet that decision was made last week after his private visit. Josh Conerly is also a fit for us IMO. He’s got similar traits to Eric Fisher but needs to get stronger. I think he could grow into an average LT.

Fellas, this season hinges on Jaylon Moore like it or not. This could easily go the same way resulting in horizontal passes, low A-dot passes and boring offense bc Mahomes is getting hit 8-12 times a game and we have zero trust in the LT.

The Chiefs most likely feel like this is the best draft to get a LT bc of the perception of the tackles and depth of the class at DL and RB. They’re likely gonna go after a LT and I cannot blame them one bit after the last few years.

Chief Roundup 04-20-2025 11:20 AM

I am hoping that there are a few players there that Veach and Co. like all about the same, along with a QB, Sanders or Milroe, and then Browns or Giants want to come up and get them. That way, we could still get a player that they liked and get some other picks in the middle part of the draft.


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