I mean, I'm acting like I didn't think he was a day 2 prospect, yeah.

I didn't see it when we made the pick and never saw it at any point. I don't know where 'really good measurables' came from because what his measurables point to where a bunch of parts that don't make a whole.

He wasn't agile enough to play edge, though admittedly few pegged him there. He wasn't long enough to be a 3-4 DE. So what you're really looking at is someone would seemingly be an under-tackle in a 4-3.

The problem is he wasn't nearly powerful enough to play IDL. And while a 4.87 40 is good for a DT it's also largely irrelevant. He didn't have any measurables that qualified as 'really good' that actually fit with the rest of his tools to make an actual football player.

He was a tweener and that's exactly what I said at the time. He simply didn't have a home.

And yeah, there have been plenty of SEC players who played better than Speaks but who ultimately just didn't have a complete set of tools. Michael Sam would be an immediate and obvious example.

Dude, Michael Sam can be a bottom or a top. Very toolsy.

Point me please to where you said any of this shit before he was drafted. We ran a 3-4 at the time. His profile was a 3-4 5T.

Actually, you know what, I don't even rightly give a shit. I'd much rather hear right now who you think are the studs and duds of this year's class.

I like White, and for the same reasons.

Adewore is also a guy that fits this same line of thought.

I like...

1st
White
Foskey
Tuipoluto

2nd
Adebaware
Carter
Harrison

3rd-4th
Mcguire
Diaby
Fehoko

5th-7th
Incoom
Young
Murphy

Say the Commanders call and are willing to do basically the OBJ Chiefs Ravens trade for Montez Sweat.

Any interest?

Probably. The depth of the draft into the 2nd makes for a strong 'Nick Bolton' possibility where the 2nd we get back in the exchange is going to yield a very good player.

Sweat's cap charge is about 3 times what OBJs was, though. So I may need them to dial back that mid-round pick we included in the OBJ deal. Then again, the 2 we get in retirn should be higher than the one we got from Baltimore.

But yeah, I'd consider it. The problem is the cap space. I'm just not sure where to find it at his point.

Felix Anudike-Uzomah sure is a popular pick for the Chiefs lately.

They could work to get it this year, but he'd need a LTD, so you'd have to go into the future to figure it out.

I'd say Thuney is gone after this year, I'm not sure on Snead's fuure here either.

But Sweat would pair pretty well with what we've got there I think.

Feeling more and more comfortable with the options at DE in rd 2 if we want to go somewhere else in rd 1.

Not sure they’re gonna draft a DL in the first in back-to-back years.

Yeah - still just don't see it.

:shrug:

It's if we want a guy who can go round rather than just directly over an OT. Tested pretty well, has plenty of moves, decent production, great bend. Doesn't have the same versatility as others mentioned.

He's not my favorite of the group, but I do think he's in that tier of edge rusher that should/could be available.

I think if they take him, it's because he's the best of both worlds in terms of meeting the size thresholds, but also having speed and bend.

And that's where I just keep landing with him.

I don't dislike the guy as a prospect - I just can't see a scenario where he's even one of my 3 favorite guys on the board. I should go run a mock where I just screw the Chiefs with every pick I make (within reason) and see if I can get him there.

I mean you can take 10 guys off the board for KC pretty immediately; maybe even 15. And once you get that done, I can probably still make a list of 20 guys I'd rather have. Felix is probably in/around 40th or so on any kind of generic 'big board' I'd make.