I'd argue he's done better after the 5th round than any GM in the league over the last 4 years.

I don't know what I don't know.

Veach hasn't drafted, hasn't had an offseason, hasn't had a preseason. I can't judge him.

I can judge a man who's had 3 full offseason/FA periods/trade deadlines to work his magic.

Just remember,

Getting rid of alex is not going to be easy unless you call a tow truck and have it hauled off as scrap.

That said do you not think that Dorsey will play hardball when it comes to making a deal for Alex11?



Veatch needs to be prepared to be "Bonused" by Dorsey on a Smith trade, plain and simple. The Chiefs are going to be the "Gurglers" on this deal if it happens.

its pretty clear that Veach was extremely important if not THE guy behind the picks

It's possible - not probable...

It's more than probable

Dorsey was obviously THE guy behind the picks in GB which is why he got hired here.

It doesn't mean much. Being a GM is a different type of job.

What

The

****

:facepalm:

In 2000, Dorsey returned to the Packers, taking over again as Director of College Scouting. He remained in that position through 2011, and winning a Super Bowl ring. In 2012, he was named Director of Football Operations.[4] He is credited with making the Packers one of the best drafting teams in the NFL, helping choose star players like Aaron Rodgers, Clay Matthews and Greg Jennings.[5]

He is well respected in GB and throughout the league for a reason Dane. You are entitled to your opinion of course but he's good IMO.

Dorsey had 38 draft picks while in Kansas City. Out of those 38, he drafted 3 Pro Bowlers in Kelce, Peters and Hill.

16 of those players started, with varying success rates:

2017 Kareem Hunt
2016 Chris Jones
2016 Eric Murray (Starter due to injury)
2016 DeMarcus Robinson (Starter due to injury)
2016 Parker Ehinger (IR)
2016 Tyreek Hill
2015 Marcus Peters
2015 Mitch Morse (always injured)
2015 Chris Conley (IR)
2015 Steven Nelson
2015 Rakeem Nunez-Roches
2014 Dee Ford (IR)
2014 Zach Fulton (Starter due to injury)
2014 LTD
2013 Eric Fisher
2013 Travis Kelce

I'm sorry, that's just an unimpressive list

This thread is amusing me, pretty typical though someone gets fired so obviously anything wrong with the team is his fault and he gets no credit for anything good.

You don't pay attention...

That's horseshit Wikipedia nonsense.

Ted Thompson is the GM and makes all of the final personnel decisions.

The vast majority of this thread is about how John Dorsey sucks, with a few nice posts sprinkled in.

Dorsey made so many **** ups, especially with contracts and free agency that this team has been in Salary Cap Hell for two years and the result is currently a 4 game losing streak and a 1-6 record in the past 7 games.

I said it before and I'll say it again: Had Brett Veach not traded for Ragland and KPL, this defense would be even further in the shitter.

Five drafts, one playoff win.

Fired.