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johnny961 08-05-2012 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KS Smitty (Post 8791864)
Given my "advanced age" and more lenient alcohol laws when I was younger, I can tell you Bearcat (as much as I love ya) you are full of shit. "But for the Grace of God" is the only reason I'm still here, Some can say it's superb driving skills but it's really only the luck of the draw. I grew up in a fairly rural area and to this day I can say that of all my friends that were killed in auto accidents, alcohol was a contributing factor in 90% of them.
I can also attest (with witnesses) to driving or riding with someone so drunk that we shoulda died, yet we survived. Drinking and driving is stupid, and I have been that stupid more than once.

For ANYONE to think alcohol had no effect on these incidences even taking place is way loonier than an old hippie like me.

Been there. I pulled some pretty stupid shit myself when I was younger and dumber. Thankfully I am still alive to tell about it. In my posts I am not advocating or saying that I condone drinking and driving. I guess my point is that if a person chooses to drink when they know they have to drive it pays to be responsible about it and have some idea of what your personal limit is and have the discipline to not exceed it.

Reerun_KC 08-05-2012 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8791250)
I bet no one on this forum has ever drove home from the stadium after drinking.

Say what?

BWillie 08-05-2012 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8791814)
I don't think raising the legal limit is a good idea, because I don't believe the legal limit needs to be the percentage where it puts yourself and others at a significantly greater risk.... and from everything I've ever read and heard, .08 doesn't put yourself or others at a significantly greater risk.

The actual math I've seen when it comes to reaction times (since it's used as a scare tactic for texting while driving) shows that .08 reduces your reaction time by less than a car length at 65mph, so if you find yourself in that kind of situation, you may very well be ****ed regardless. It doesn't mean your're going to run lights and stop signs, weave in and out of your lane, etc.

I guess a lot of people here have never driven home after a few beers at a game or a pint with dinner, because that's really what we're talking about. I don't think Nucky or anyone else is condoning drinking and driving or testing the legal limits, but I know it's a sensitive subject and understand the over-reaction.

I think this post is on the right track. You have to ban everyone from driving after a few drinks because there are many people who still will not take precautions. If you have had a few...not saying its good to drive but just maintain a further following distance and do not focus on anything but driving. At .08 you aren't plowing thru red lights etc...you just have lower reactionary times. At .17 that's a different story.

mikeyis4dcats. 08-05-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertaker (Post 8791128)
And 1,000x more people die due to non-drunk driving accidents.

What's you're point? I know when to call a cab, I've done it countless numbers of times.

All I'm saying that having a few drinks and being over the "legal limit" doesn't mean you're drunk.

ACCIDENTS are often unavoidable. DRUNK DRIVING always is.

Titty Meat 08-05-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8791032)
What do you imagine the outcome of that to be?


He gets raped by a big black man.

Chief Roundup 08-05-2012 09:51 AM

No way should the limit be higher.

TimeForWasp 08-05-2012 11:12 AM

Driverless cars are the future. Cheers.:BLVD::hump:

In58men 08-05-2012 11:17 AM

I shit you not, I was at a bar and they had a breath analyzer check. After 3 12oz beers I blew a .06. I was 6'2 265lbs at the time if that matters or not. God awful

CoMoChief 08-05-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 8792465)
ACCIDENTS are often unavoidable. DRUNK DRIVING always is.

Of course it is. If you're drunk call a cab.....all I'm saying is that blowing a .08 doesn't necessarily mean your drunk, in fact in most cases it's not. That equals about a 2-3 drinks (beer) within a span of an hour or so.

CoMoChief 08-05-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 8792615)
I shit you not, I was at a bar and they had a breath analyzer check. After 3 12oz beers I blew a .06. I was 6'2 265lbs at the time if that matters or not. God awful

They have one at the bar I used to go to. I think it was broke though. I remember being completely hammered and did it because I found .50cents in my pocket and tried it out. .04 after many shots and about 9-10 beers after a long night watching the UFC PPV fights. And yes I got a cab.

ThaVirus 08-05-2012 11:34 AM

I'm not perfect; I've driven drunk many, many times. With that said, I don't think the limit should be raised.

I have a friend that got a DUI recently. He blew a .24. I've read you're approaching death when you hit .26. He says he has no recollection of that night and obviously he was behind the wheel..

TimeForWasp 08-05-2012 12:12 PM

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FlaChief58 08-05-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsNow (Post 8792756)
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I'm sure he thought he was "just fine" too

sedated 08-05-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 8792660)
I'm not perfect; I've driven drunk many, many times. With that said, I don't think the limit should be raised.

I have a friend that got a DUI recently. He blew a .24. I've read you're approaching death when you hit .26. He says he has no recollection of that night and obviously he was behind the wheel..

I seriously doubt they would raise it to .24 so Im not sure of the point of this story.

jd1020 08-05-2012 12:42 PM

I remember a story not too long ago about a cop letting a woman off who blew a .09, I believe, later that night the woman died in a car crash. The limit isn't going anywhere.


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