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Baby Lee 11-20-2007 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru
mmmmm ... enigma :drool:

Before you swoon, that's not the word for shooting liquids up your butt.

Bowser 11-20-2007 10:23 AM

Honestly, that's probably as close to hearing a coach say "my team sucks" without them actually saying it.

KC Dan 11-20-2007 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
You're painting again.

Tony G just signed a huge contract. He's un-tradeable.

I would bet you every penny I have that if Herm went to Tony and said "we want to trade you to NE or Ind or GB and have you work a new deal with that team" that TG would jump all over it. He is flustrated as all of us are at the inept play calling and shackles put on whomever is at QB. That 4th quarter showed me all I need to see. Herm does not play to win the game, he plays to HOPE that he wins the game. And TG and the guys are seeing right through his bu*****it mantra now. Don't be surprised if the tailspin get worse.

siberian khatru 11-20-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
Before you swoon, that's not the word for shooting liquids up your butt.

Of course, silly, that's an anemone.

the Talking Can 11-20-2007 10:30 AM

It feels like we're all arguing right past each other...

I fault Herm for being a coward in the 4th quarter. And this is not the first time he has done it.

I fault Herm for deciding - before a game is played - that we can't win. That is chickenshit.

That doesn't negate the good things he has done with our defense and most of our personnel. But it is worrisome because it points to a critical flaw...a Marty type flaw, something Chiefs fans are innately aware of and afraid of.

And Herm does himself no favors when he speaks. He does throw people under the bus. He just threw Tony, Bowe, and Croyle under the bus by saying he didn't trust them enough to let them try and win. They are prideful players and that has to sting.

Honestly, if it weren't for Croyle's presence on this team I think I would have reached a breaking point with this franchise. My ability to care is almost gone.

I can only hope that Herm doesn't ruin Croyle by turning him into a coward. But it could easily happen.

HemiEd 11-20-2007 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP
ROFL

Willie Roaf? Gone.
Will Shields? Gone.
Trent Green? Gone.
Eddie Kennison? Almost 35 years old and breaking down.
Priest Holmes? 2 years removed from football and 34 years old.


Beyond LJ, Waters and TonyG, what high caliber players did Herm inherit on O?

You need to re-read my post. I did not say high caliber exclusive to the offense. The whole team was full of "profile" guys, that was my point.
It was full of guys like Rison and Dan Williams when Dick took over. Got it?

But since you bring it up, Willie Roaf decided to retire after Herm took over. It was a very sudden change of heart, I wonder why?

Trent Green spoke up about the offensive play calling, gone.

Baby Lee 11-20-2007 10:32 AM

Evidently this was the most important game the Chiefs have EVER played.

DaKCMan AP 11-20-2007 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can
And Herm does himself no favors when he speaks. He does throw people under the bus. He just threw Tony, Bowe, and Croyle under the bus by saying he didn't trust them enough to let them try and win. They are prideful players and that has to sting.

He doesn't mention any players by name in his comments you're referring to. How do you know he's not talking about Weigman, Welbourne, Terry and Turley? Their performance directly affects what Brodie, Bowe, TG and any other skill position player can do.

DaKCMan AP 11-20-2007 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
Evidently this was the most important game the Chiefs have EVER played.

EVAR!

DaKCMan AP 11-20-2007 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
But since you bring it up, Willie Roaf decided to retire after Herm took over. It was a very sudden change of heart, I wonder why?

You heard it folks! Herm Edwards caused Willie Roaf to retire!

Baby Lee 11-20-2007 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
But since you bring it up, Willie Roaf decided to retire after Herm took over. It was a very sudden change of heart, I wonder why?

Because his wife closed her poonanny and threatened to keep it closed unless he stayed home.
Roaf was high on the season and high on the new regime in the OTAs, then he tweaked his wounds again at the end of OTAs and his wife said enuff'zenuff.

This is the shit that burns me, there is no evidence that Roaf had any problem with Herm, but that doesn't stop the innuendo.

the Talking Can 11-20-2007 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP
He doesn't mention any players by name in his comments you're referring to. How do you know he's not talking about Weigman, Welbourne, Terry and Turley? Their performance directly affects what Brodie, Bowe, TG and any other skill position player can do.

doesn't matter, he's not letting a great player like Tony have a chance to make a great play...he's not repaying Bowes's awesome self-confidence by having the confidence to throw him the damn ball....

if you won't even try you are disrespecting the work, effort, and talent of some fine players....they know that...that's why Tony is pissed, and he has the seniority, unlike Brodie and Bowe, to say something...

Chiefnj2 11-20-2007 10:36 AM

If you read between the line Herm is saying:

" I watch these guys in practice all week. I'm shocked that in a game situation they can jog from the bench and onto the field without hurting themselves or getting lost along the way. Last week we had an 11 on 2 drill. Only 2 defensive players - Bell and Kershaw and the offense still lost 3 yards on first down before turning it over on the next play. I can't risk that in a game."

DaKCMan AP 11-20-2007 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
You need to re-read my post. I did not say high caliber exclusive to the offense.

Lets go over the D. The players left on D when Herm took over:

Jared Allen (2yr experience)
Derrick Johnson (1yr experience)
John Browning
Lionel Dalton
Carlos Hall
Eric Hicks
Junior Siavii
Ryan Sims
Shawn Barber
Kendrell Bell
Key Fox
Kawika Mitchell
Will Bartee
Sammy Knight
Dexter McCleon
Benny Sapp
Pat Surtain
Eric Warfield
Dewayne Washington
Greg Wesley
Jerome Woods


Yep, that's pretty talent-heavy.

FAX 11-20-2007 10:38 AM

Let's burn the stadium and roast marshmellows.

FAX


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