Comparing stats 14 years apart is some dumb shit. Brady has always made big plays when it counts. He's managed games, but he's never been a game manager.


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Uhm..

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I'm not comparing stats from then to now. I'm merely pointing out that back then it was mainly the Pats defense that was winning the Pats championships. It was not just Brady.

The guy whose post I replied to is one of the idiots who thinks football is an individual sport. It is not.

I have stats to back up my point.

Pats Ranks

2001 Offense Rank Total Yds - #19 PPG - #6
2001 Passing Yds Rank - #22
2001 Defense Rank Total Yds - #8 PPG - #6

2003 Offense Rank - Total Yds - #17 PPG - #12
2003 Passing Yds Rank #9
2003 Defense Rank - Total Tds - # 7 PPG - #1

2004 Offense Rank Total Yds - #7 PPG -#4
2004 Passing Yds Rank #11
2004 Defense Rank Total Yds - #9 PPG - #2

So don't give me that BS that Brady was the main reason they won their first three championships. He wasn't. Their defense was. Eventually he became the GOAT but lets give credit where credit is due. Pats D is usually always good when they win the championships.

You can also look at the year the Packers won their SB with Rodgers. I think their D was top 5 in yds and #2 in ppg.

Now I'm not saying Alex is as good as those guys but lets not act like Alex is the only QB that needs help. They all do. Defense is still and always will be extremely important when it comes to winning championships.

My apologies man. I didn't mean to come off as a jerk. A few too many beers tonight.

Can we please take the non-training camp stuff into their own threads?

Those of us not lucky enough to live in KC actually want to hear about the god-damn training camp and not a bunch of pissing and moaning about other crap (to include the "Oh GOD NOT AGAIN Pat/Alex bullshit).

Pats 32, Panthers 29

Pats 24, Eagles 21

Thank god that elite defense won those games for the Pats and Brady didn't have to perform like a top 10 passer.

NFL podcast discusses the Chiefs : (thinks Mahomes could sit behind Smith 2+ years but have been impressed with what he's shown so far, thinks Kareem Hunt could steal the job this season and be a 3 down back, Tyreek the speedster, and some talk on the defense)

Starts at 20:40 (Aug 4, 2017)

http://www.nfl.com/podcasts?series=m...sticks-podcast

Why the **** would he sit behind Smith for 2+ years?

He needs a buffer year. Maybe more beyond that. But a full two seasons? Makes zero sense at all.

Yes Smitty will be here!! You just can't get rid of him!! He will be a Chief for life

"Lucky"

Worst training camp thread ever thanks to all the assholes talking about Brady who is not even on our team and the Alex lovers who just can't shut the **** up about him. Pathetic.

I apologize.. I'm not trying to be a dick..

I'll 2cnd that.

Wow you are one giant *****. ROFL

So much for the new mods cleaning things up. Who was the guy looking to reopen a board?

Megathreads in general suck.

IMO, a new thread for each day of TC makes sense, and a game thread for each half -if not quarter- for the regular season.