Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12991790)

It doesn't make a lick of sense for the Dolphins, and he's too valuable for the Chiefs to let him go for any less than a 2nd this season.

Fun to think about? Sure. But not grounded in reality.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12991807)

Prolific passing? 226 yards a game is prolific??? ROFL

Shut the hell up , Geno.

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 12991751)

He was a great game manager who was clutch for his first three SBs (2001,2003,2004). Look at his stats.

2001 - 63.9 comp %, 2,814 yds, 18 TDs, 12 INTs, 86.5 Rate
2003 - 60.9 compl %, 3620 yds, 23 TDs, 12 INTs, 85.9 Rate
2004 - 60.8 compl %, 3692 yds, 28 TDs, 14 INTs, 92.6 Rate

Nothing spectacular there. They won mostly because of their D back then. Now they win mostly because of their O but their D is still very good (#8 in total yds, #1 in league ppg last year giving up just 15.6 ppg).

Pats are more than just Tom Brady. Obviously he is the main reason but there is a lot of reasons for the Pats success. It isn't just him. They went 11-5 with Matt Cassell as their QB not that long ago.

Team game. So it is not a forgone conclusion that they will win. There's a lot that can happen. Maybe their D or Oline sucks this year and if that is the case they won't win again. So you never know.



Their D, particularly their Dline, was never healthy until the playoffs. Once they were they shut down everyone including offenses led by Matt Ryan, Rodgers and Brady.

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 12991751)

He was a great game manager who was clutch for his first three SBs (2001,2003,2004). Look at his stats.

2001 - 63.9 comp %, 2,814 yds, 18 TDs, 12 INTs, 86.5 Rate
2003 - 60.9 compl %, 3620 yds, 23 TDs, 12 INTs, 85.9 Rate
2004 - 60.8 compl %, 3692 yds, 28 TDs, 14 INTs, 92.6 Rate

Nothing spectacular there. They won mostly because of their D back then. Now they win mostly because of their O but their D is still very good (#8 in total yds, #1 in league ppg last year giving up just 15.6 ppg).

Pats are more than just Tom Brady. Obviously he is the main reason but there is a lot of reasons for the Pats success. It isn't just him. They went 11-5 with Matt Cassell as their QB not that long ago.

Team game. So it is not a forgone conclusion that they will win. There's a lot that can happen. Maybe their D or Oline sucks this year and if that is the case they won't win again. So you never know.



Their D, particularly their Dline, was never healthy until the playoffs. Once they were they shut down everyone including offenses led by Matt Ryan, Rodgers and Brady.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12991819)

:facepalm:

The league has changed a ton in the past several years. Everyone's stats have inflated in terms of QB play.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12991811)

In 2003 and 2004, those were top ten passing numbers.

You apparently have no clue about the rules changes to the passing game that made everything explode in the last 10 years.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12991830)

Tom Brady was far better in the second half of his career. End of story.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12991826)

When there was absolute shit going around for quarterbacks in the league.
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12991841)

I thought this was the ****ing training camp thread.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12991844)

You can blame PAChiefsGuy.