From what I see there are several "little sisters" in conferences that add nothing. "It's just always been that way."

If we want a true 64, then lets go with the true 64.

Tell me the truth, this is you isn't it?

LMAO

Got it, thanks.

Yes, of course they are. You know they are D1 in basketball, which means they are D1 in everything.

Of course, D1 doesn't mean what it used to. Mo St. football is an FCS team, not an FBS one.

Some ISU love by Texas http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/show...-State-v.-Iowa

That was one of the greatest college football games I have ever seen. Jantz looks to be the real deal.

I hated it. I was having a heart attack the whole fourth quarter and overtimes until that field goal. I knew it was over with the Man of Steele at the helm!

Last ISU game I went to went into triple overtime also, but the didn't pull that one out even though the guy was wide open and we should have won.

Clones always go way over their heads when they play the Hawks then revert to their lackluster selves for the rest of the year. Nothing new or unexpected here. We'll see how the rest of the season plays out.

You are thinking of the Dan McCarney era. Rhoads cares more about conference games than Iowa. I can just as easily say the last few years Iowa has cared more about the ISU game because that was their best game they played, where as ISU looked bad but looked pretty good the rest of the year in conference play.

I must have missed all those bowls ISU played in over the last few years. Your post is idiotic and reeks of Ames.

If ISU had Iowas schedule they would have easily been in a bowl game last year. Shit they should have with ISU's harder schedule they just missed out in triple OT against Nebraska that would have put them in one. Fell apart against Colorado the next week after that and then lost to Mizzou 0-14 without our starting QB.

LMAO ISU, the ugly step sister.

Geoffroy: "we are waiting for Oklahoma to make a decision at this point". Did not seem too concerned about the situation, although he obviously doesn't like to discuss matters like this while watching our football games. Also mentioned Dodds & Texas and equal revenue sharing within the conference, sounded like that could in fact be a distinct possibility.

I'm liking the chances of Oklahoma staying and BYU joining.

Is it too late for the chiefs to join the Big12?

Interesting conversation with someone high up in KU's athletic department on Saturday morning. The problems aren't based on what the ADs in each school are doing or want to do. It's all about egos and money, and the University presidents, chancellors and butt-hurt alumni. The ADs would prefer to leave well enough alone.

Yep.

It's all about money, and unfortunately when you receive that extra money from the windfall of a new television network, all you are doing is furthering the arms race. It doesn't really improve the product, or your standing, if everyone else is receiving the same money.

OU is pac12 bound

Link?

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

LOL at Colorado.

Ou isn't leaving. They are just putting the pressure on Texas. Texas is in Norman right now negotiating

that's about the only thing i see saving the conference

KU,MU,KSU etc better keep looking for a new home until they know different.

Sure they are. all the talk about how they dont wanna hurt lil schools like ISU & Baylor. But keep crossing your fingers & praying :)

Does Oklahoma really want to go play schools like USC, Oregon, and Stanford every year, or stay in a conference where they just have to beat Texas who is down these last few years? Oklahoma and Oklahoma state are in this together, and you know state is tugging on Oklahoma saying they want equal revenue sharing and to stay in the Big12. Oklahoma is just playing hard ball with Texas forcing them to change LHN into the Big12 Network.

Iowa State will get a lot of money suing Oklahoma, OK State, and aTm so I'm not too worried. They also wont get left out of a BCS conference. It will all work out in the end. OK stays, BYU comes, and no one sues aTm or the SEC over it. Big12 gets equal revenue sharing on at least the first two tier contracts and potentially a Big12 network.

Does Oklahoma really want to go play schools like USC, Oregon, and Stanford every year, or stay in a conference where they just have to beat Texas who is down these last few years? Oklahoma and Oklahoma state are in this together, and you know state is tugging on Oklahoma saying they want equal revenue sharing and to stay in the Big12. Oklahoma is just playing hard ball with Texas forcing them to change LHN into the Big12 Network.

Iowa State will get a lot of money suing Oklahoma, OK State, and aTm so I'm not too worried. They also wont get left out of a BCS conference. It will all work out in the end. OK stays, BYU comes, and no one sues aTm or the SEC over it. Big12 gets equal revenue sharing on at least the first two tier contracts and potentially a Big12 network.

let me put it this way. This is Hypothetical. but very well could happen
the next 3 years in a row
SEC school goes undefeated
Big 10 or pac 12 School goes undefeated
OU goes undefeated
guess who gets left on the out side looking in cause they dont play in a conference with a championship game any more.

Really? OU is left out. Won't ever happen.

themarkup The Mark Up

BREAKING on Longhorn Network: #Texas agrees to consider Bucknell's application for the NEW, Improved #big12. New Mexico State a possibility.

---Never heard of it so I don't know how reliable that is. I'm assuming not very though. And its obviously an Aggie person.

themarkup The Mark Up

BREAKING on Longhorn Network: #Texas agrees to consider Bucknell's application for the NEW, Improved #big12. New Mexico State a possibility.

---Never heard of it so I don't know how reliable that is. I'm assuming not very though. And its obviously an Aggie person.

Not nearly as likely as Oklahoma being the only or at least one of two undefeated teams. But if Oklahoma is worried about that, they do have non-con to work with and fix that problem.

@PeterBurnsRadio Peter Burns


Brilliant move by UT. Get OU/OSU/A&M to jump ship. Add three more cupcakes. Keep TV money with easy road to BCS bid

@PeterBurnsRadio Peter Burns


Brilliant move by UT. Get OU/OSU/A&M to jump ship. Add three more cupcakes. Keep TV money with easy road to BCS bid

I think we are moving here: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...=249847&page=2 because this thread is bugged.

As for that rumor, two things wrong with it. 1) TEXAS wouldn't be considering anyone's application, the Big 12 would. 2) Bucknell is a tiny school in Pennsylvania. This rumor is not even remotely credible.

The most important thing that people are overlooking is the student atheletes. They are more concerned about money. It's not the ADs it's the chancellors, presidents, and board of regents

look let's say OSU goes to the PAC 12. Look at the traveling they are going to be doing. Going over more travel time and 2 time zones. The game starts ends at 10:30 pacific time that's 12:30 central. They won't be getting back til 5 or 6 am. A's opposes to 1:30. Just sad

I don't think that will end up being that big of a problem. They'll find a way to work around it.

How? they still have to travel over 2 time zones have longer flights

Take classes that start later in the day or that don't meet the day after gameday or schedule more games on weekends, for example.

Even though schools don't have that many 2 time zone conference games today, they still manage to deal with a few 2 time zone non-conference games each year in many sports.

it would still be a issue. Yes they have one ir two 2 hour but now it's going to be more. On the classes they'll be getting in about 6 as opposed to 1 or 2 so they'll be sleeping during the day

Big deal. College kids pull all nighters and sleep all day all the time.

The travel argument doesn't wash with me.

The hassle of travel isn't the time in the plane - it's the boarding of the plane at all.

A 4 hour flight sucks. But guess what? So does a 2 hour flight. The extra 2 hours in the air really doesn't make a big difference, IMO.

If you want to say that you've frozen out the fans due to the fact that they can't easily drive to a venue, I understand that. But I don't buy the argument that the travel burden is any more onerous for the athletes. They've lost a day either way. A 2 hour flight to Texas or a 4 hour flight to SoCal or the Northeast - the difference is negligible.

While I understand what you are saying, I wouldn't worry much about college athletes & them attending classes.

If long flights were an issue Hawaii wouldn't have a football team, nor would anyone ever play them...

Remember when I said that Brady Deaton was a goddamn moron?

Brady Deaton remains a goddamn moron:

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colle...2119ab083.html

Jesus, Deaton - really? You think the conference can move forward if OU and OSU leave?

And people continue to wonder why I have no faith in MU leadership...

:spock:

yea, because taking a long flight to the beaches of Hawaii is the same as taking a long flight to columbia skankfest missouri.

Even if those two schools do leave, the chances of the Big12 adding three more schools are better than all conferences going to 16. Super conferences are what the media wants, not what conferences want.

I'm not a fan either, but Christ, you don't really think these people actually mean everything they say publicly, do you? He could spout off some solidarity bullshit for the media and be on the phone with a rep from another conference five minutes later.

Exactly. All the ADs and chancellors are saying the right things. But you know they are working behind the scenes. What they say publicly probably doesn't mean shit right now.

It's Brady Deaton.

I think he believes it.

I dont know if I really believe this To me the ADs want to stay and chansellors and OU Texas AM got their little feelings hurt

Hey Frankie, there's another thread on this cause this one is ****ed.

They will either carve up the Pac 12 again or divide the ACC with the SEC.